Mod Post: Go Public or Stay Private?
Options
Replies
-
I can certainly see both sides but, I am leaning toward keeping the group private. I'm too busy to look at the main forums or speak negatively about how others choose to live there lives so, honestly, it doesn't make much difference to me but in support of this group and my LCHF friends, I think we should keep it private.0
-
I joined after the drama but I am leaning towards private. I feel a lot safer here and so much more supported here than I do in the main forums. I found the group easily despite it being private and having to wait to be approved wasn't a deterrent for me in the least!0
-
People on the main forums love to refer investigators to this group. That's how I found it. And happy about that. I definitely agree with the whole Google search thing. That's kinda a bummer. But I'm leaning towards the private group. There's just a feeling of "safety" in the back of my mind about it being private that's comforting.0
-
The group member tally lists over 20,000 members for this group. That seems pretty incredible to me and not exactly what I would describe as a secret society.
In addition to the great support and advice from the old timers here, I also look forward to new thread topics I haven't seen before. I've seen plenty of new names since we've been private and plenty of new great topics being discussed. So there continues to be an influx of new ideas and great discussions here. If it were 'stale' here, I'd lean towards opening it up, but I haven't found that to be the case. So far, Like minded folks seem to find this group, and continue to join with great contributions.
My vote - continue to keep it private, unless and until it needs to be revisited.0 -
I'm going to jump on the private bandwagon. I wasn't even aware of drama, and I'm not the biggest fan of drama. I stay out of the main forums, and would rather the drama, trolls and ickyness stays out of here.0
-
If people can find us without difficulty, keep it private.
I joined before the drama. The only difference I see before and after is a distinct lack of complaints about the main forum; which is a part of following the rules regardless of whether we are public or private. : )0 -
Personally, I am more comfortable posting more about myself when it is private. However, it really stinks not having a good way to search.0
-
When making application for employment, insurance, etc easily accessible web info may be reviewed.
I do see the main forums improving and LCHF info is getting posted there and some will wind up here if we keep a positive presents on the other boards.
However I will be fine with either route.0 -
Make it public, however if CICO trolls are allowed here then I am allowed to drop in to the main forum once in a while. 0
-
EbonyDahlia wrote: »Make it public, however if CICO trolls are allowed here then I am allowed to drop in to the main forum once in a while.
Hey you can drop into the main forum anytime. You just can not beat them up.
0 -
There is apparently going to be a vote. I would like everyone to vote 'private'.
But if there are not enough private votes perhaps we who want it to be private could start LCD II?0 -
I'd say private as well. We can guide folks here, while still being comfortable knowing there aren't trolls among us. I'm not even really one of us, but that's how I feel. 0
-
GaleHawkins wrote: »EbonyDahlia wrote: »Make it public, however if CICO trolls are allowed here then I am allowed to drop in to the main forum once in a while.
Hey you can drop into the main forum anytime. You just can not beat them up.
Yeah. You're more than welcome to go in there. We, the mods, prefer not to. And we don't condone trolling or drama-causing. But we have no control of what you all personally do out there in "main forum land." We don't want the Group's name drug through the mud either though.
So if someone wants to get a little rowdy and butt-heads out there, that's fine. Just don't drag us into it.0 -
Though I'm new to the group, I prefer the private format. I do believe that people have individual traits and shed weight differently. I know, for a fact, that I don't do well on the MFP dietary guidelines. I am a "Special snowflake", as they say & I imagine a lot of us in the group are. I was able to find y'all with no trouble, made my request to join & was accepted very quickly. The stress of having to be on guard, in defense of your WOE, just becomes too much, at times. I feel understood and protected here. I'm very appreciative of this group of folks. :-)
0 -
My vote is private, also.0
-
I also vote private0
-
Lucille4444 wrote: »There is apparently going to be a vote. I would like everyone to vote 'private'.
But if there are not enough private votes perhaps we who want it to be private could start LCD II?
I highly doubt the vote will be strongly enough for going public that it would happen; but, if it did, I would hope that the group didn't splinter over it.
It may help to consider the fact that it wouldn't take much for a rogue agent of the CICO to sneak past our rigorous screening process. Basically, if the person says anything but "low carb sucks and you all are going to die" in their application, we're going to approve them. Someone could just attempt to join and say something benign or pro-low-carb and then lurk here without us ever knowing.
There's just too many people joining for us to heavily screen everyone. On top of that, even rigorous review of their post history might not work. I used to be a CICO bigot myself, before I found "The Way" and if you went back far enough (5+ years), you would find me telling people that it all is about calories. People mature and change. People slip into different situations. Where someone was anti-low-carb in the past, they may have rescinded those opinions and should be welcomed here with open arms in the present.
So, it's not as if someone couldn't get in. If they cause problems, we could boot them (of course), but I believe we could have done that before.
For years, this group operated as a public anarchy without any active leaders (the creator and original group leaders had abandoned it). Those of us who were there at the time can tell you that it was still a pretty welcoming and comfortable place. We rarely had trouble from anyone. The "Rise of the Leaders" wasn't even in response to the need to moderate more strongly. We just wanted to clean up the sticky posts and change the image that many people disliked. We just don't attract that much negative attention (usually). There was a rare circumstance, a while ago, that caused the original problems.
If the group wants to remain private, we (the leaders) will respect that choice. It's really not a huge deal for us. We're on here basically 24/7 anyway. It takes little to no effort to approve people. It just that we're not as "private" as it might seem. Only the most lazy, casual person wouldn't get past our defenses.
0 -
For those that read on the regular forums there is a thread call Ketogenic Diet that started tonight that others have been helping by making good replies.0
-
Though I'm new to the group, I prefer the private format. I do believe that people have individual traits and shed weight differently. I know, for a fact, that I don't do well on the MFP dietary guidelines. I am a "Special snowflake", as they say & I imagine a lot of us in the group are. I was able to find y'all with no trouble, made my request to join & was accepted very quickly. The stress of having to be on guard, in defense of your WOE, just becomes too much, at times. I feel understood and protected here. I'm very appreciative of this group of folks. :-)
*special snowflake* - I love it. I giggle-snorted!
0 -
Lucille4444 wrote: »There is apparently going to be a vote. I would like everyone to vote 'private'.
But if there are not enough private votes perhaps we who want it to be private could start LCD II?
I highly doubt the vote will be strongly enough for going public that it would happen; but, if it did, I would hope that the group didn't splinter over it.
It may help to consider the fact that it wouldn't take much for a rogue agent of the CICO to sneak past our rigorous screening process. Basically, if the person says anything but "low carb sucks and you all are going to die" in their application, we're going to approve them. Someone could just attempt to join and say something benign or pro-low-carb and then lurk here without us ever knowing.
There's just too many people joining for us to heavily screen everyone. On top of that, even rigorous review of their post history might not work. I used to be a CICO bigot myself, before I found "The Way" and if you went back far enough (5+ years), you would find me telling people that it all is about calories. People mature and change. People slip into different situations. Where someone was anti-low-carb in the past, they may have rescinded those opinions and should be welcomed here with open arms in the present.
So, it's not as if someone couldn't get in. If they cause problems, we could boot them (of course), but I believe we could have done that before.
For years, this group operated as a public anarchy without any active leaders (the creator and original group leaders had abandoned it). Those of us who were there at the time can tell you that it was still a pretty welcoming and comfortable place. We rarely had trouble from anyone. The "Rise of the Leaders" wasn't even in response to the need to moderate more strongly. We just wanted to clean up the sticky posts and change the image that many people disliked. We just don't attract that much negative attention (usually). There was a rare circumstance, a while ago, that caused the original problems.
If the group wants to remain private, we (the leaders) will respect that choice. It's really not a huge deal for us. We're on here basically 24/7 anyway. It takes little to no effort to approve people. It just that we're not as "private" as it might seem. Only the most lazy, casual person wouldn't get past our defenses.
I like this. It points out another point, that there may be those attempting to come in here with ill intentions that may see how peaceful and accepting and knowledgeable we all are that can serve as a good reminder to others who may not see it otherwise.0
This discussion has been closed.