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Deemed Unhealthy by Work Health and Wellness Survey

DietPrada
DietPrada Posts: 1,171 Member
edited November 2024 in Social Groups
Apparently I don't know anything about nutrition and I'm reasonably unhealthy as I said in my work health and wellness survey that I eat 0 serves of fruit and vegetable. They suggested ways to improve my diet.

In the section of the survey where they asked about barriers I had to being healthy, I said the only barrier I had was the ignorance of other people, and a wide-held but outdated belief that carbs (large amounts of fruit and vegetables) were necessary for a healthy diet.
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  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    That is interesting. Why will people not look at the results of eating a specific way before they judge it.
  • FIT_Goat
    FIT_Goat Posts: 4,227 Member
    Yeah, I get the same results when I take those surveys. I get a kick out of it.
  • macchiatto
    macchiatto Posts: 2,907 Member
    LOL you made me curious to take the one through DH's new insurance (work).
    Sure enough, "high risk" for nutrition even though I actually eat 3-4 servings of veggies per day (so more than some keto'ers), no refined carbs, no sweets, etc. It's the processed meats and fatty foods that get me, I'm sure. Regardless of how my numbers look. Silly survey. :p
  • macchiatto
    macchiatto Posts: 2,907 Member
    Nutrition
    Macchiatto, on your Personal Health Assessment
    you indicated that your diet consists of mostly
    unhealthy foods. Do you know that an
    unhealthy diet can lead to numerous health
    problems that can be life-threatening? A
    healthy diet is one of the easiest changes to
    make to yield some of the most noticeable
    results.
    Your Nutrition Health
    Fruits & Vegetable: Borderline:
    Fat: High Risk
    Fiber: Borderline

    "Mostly unhealthy." Thaaanks. :tongue:
  • kirkor
    kirkor Posts: 2,530 Member
    Ya, when my work first started doing those surveys, I thought about "gaming" them and writing down the answers I knew they wanted to hear. Then I figured, no, screw it, I'm going to be honest and let my bloodwork, body fat, etc., speak for themselves!
  • phxteach
    phxteach Posts: 309 Member
    Are the surveys tied to health insurance rates or other money penalties?
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    I had to have a physical done a couple years ago as a "random audit". My husbands company does charge an extra fee for being overweight. If someone looses weight and is gets below the surcharge cutoff, they get the reduction, plus what they paid into it for that year so far back. It's a nice incentive if you're fairly close I think, but it's not so much money that it's a big enough motivator for most people.
    The questions their form asks don't go into nutrition. At least they didn't a few years ago when I had to do it. But I had to get a full physical, and pay the copay for it myself. The random audit is aimed at catching people lying about their weight.
    His company also has its own free health club and employee cafeteria where all the food is free. I've never been there to check it out, but I know they offer everything from soup and salad bar to French fries and hamburgers.
  • sault_girl
    sault_girl Posts: 219 Member
    Scary stuff. The matter of health insurance is a little bit different here in Canada, but wow I'd be inclined to check the boxes they want to see checked... to be honest I would probably steer clear of a MFP account where they might want to check up on what you're eating!
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    sault_girl wrote: »
    Scary stuff. The matter of health insurance is a little bit different here in Canada, but wow I'd be inclined to check the boxes they want to see checked... to be honest I would probably steer clear of a MFP account where they might want to check up on what you're eating!

    After my cell phone locked up during an update at 5:04 am this morning and has not worked yet I still say, "Technology is going to be the death of us all."

    Your warning may have or some day will have a ton of validity. Now that all health records are going to the cloud privacy in a true sense is a thing of the past. I just hope LCHF gets recognized as being a valid way of eating before we loose healthcare access due not eating the "approved" standard diet.
  • Dragonwolf
    Dragonwolf Posts: 5,600 Member
    phxteach wrote: »
    Are the surveys tied to health insurance rates or other money penalties?

    Depends on the insurance, I think, though usually it's the bloodwork that incurs a penalty.

    Those surveys remind me of this cartoon:

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  • jmw6019
    jmw6019 Posts: 25 Member
    My husband's company started forcing us to get a mini-physical every year at their office with a PA. It's probably my least favorite thing I have to do every year. Basically your premium is higher if they deem you "unhealthy" - could be blood pressure, weight, using tobacco, etc.

    Nothing against PA's, but I go to my doctors regularly, all my test results are great, and every year their new PA lady has some scare tactic with a condescending look and misinformation on both health and nutrition. This year she told me I was prediabetic and tried really hard to get me to freak out. My doctor who actually runs all the real bloodwork tests insists I am not (although he does want me to lose 15 lbs). And he's a big fan of my low-carb diet.
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    South Africa trials on Way Of Eating I expect are just the start of court room drama over WOE's.
  • sault_girl
    sault_girl Posts: 219 Member
    jmw6019 wrote: »
    My husband's company started forcing us to get a mini-physical every year at their office with a PA. It's probably my least favorite thing I have to do every year. Basically your premium is higher if they deem you "unhealthy" - could be blood pressure, weight, using tobacco, etc.

    Nothing against PA's, but I go to my doctors regularly, all my test results are great, and every year their new PA lady has some scare tactic with a condescending look and misinformation on both health and nutrition. This year she told me I was prediabetic and tried really hard to get me to freak out. My doctor who actually runs all the real bloodwork tests insists I am not (although he does want me to lose 15 lbs). And he's a big fan of my low-carb diet.

    This is so scary! I sincerely hope things don't go this way in the Canadian system.

    Aside from my way of eating, I also participate in a super-high-risk sport (horseback riding) on a regular basis (with more than a few related injuries over the years); I'm sure there would be red-flags or super high premiums written all over my file.
  • lithezebra
    lithezebra Posts: 3,670 Member
    jmw6019 wrote: »

    Nothing against PA's, but I go to my doctors regularly, all my test results are great, and every year their new PA lady has some scare tactic with a condescending look and misinformation on both health and nutrition. This year she told me I was prediabetic and tried really hard to get me to freak out. My doctor who actually runs all the real bloodwork tests insists I am not (although he does want me to lose 15 lbs). And he's a big fan of my low-carb diet.

    There is an objective standard for prediabetes. If you know your numbers, you can judge for yourself. Yes, it's a continuum, and if you're getting close to prediabetes, you would be concerned. On the other hand, you're on a low carb diet and that's a good call. Here's a chart:
    DM_Blood_Test_Levels_Chart.jpg



  • Lillith32
    Lillith32 Posts: 483 Member
    I get a nice and involved health assessment survey a few times a year. I just started imputing the information directly from MyPlate. As far as they know I eat 9-11 servings of "heart-healthy whole grains". I get physicals, and I don't have any issues, so I don't feel super guilty about it. Last time the survey gave me crud about my caffeine consumption (a cup or two during most days of the week). Do I feel like I'm addicted to coffee? Uh, no. Go away, preachy survey.
  • macchiatto
    macchiatto Posts: 2,907 Member
    @jmw6019 ditto lithezebra; the question of whether you're prediabetic or not would be pretty clear-cut, I would think? But yes, if you're already on a low carb diet that's a good thing. Hopefully you can reverse it if your numbers do fall in that range. (Mine did several years ago.)

    I don't think there are any penalties for how I filled out the wellness profile. With our previous plan we actually got $200 in visa GC's if we got a physical and filled out the wellness profile, so that was the motivation. I don't think that will happen this time since his employer switched from a bigger plan w/a bigger organization to a small group plan for just our location. (This year, surprisingly, we got better rates that way.)
  • FIT_Goat
    FIT_Goat Posts: 4,227 Member
    Lillith32 wrote: »
    I get a nice and involved health assessment survey a few times a year. I just started imputing the information directly from MyPlate. As far as they know I eat 9-11 servings of "heart-healthy whole grains". I get physicals, and I don't have any issues, so I don't feel super guilty about it. Last time the survey gave me crud about my caffeine consumption (a cup or two during most days of the week). Do I feel like I'm addicted to coffee? Uh, no. Go away, preachy survey.

    The coffee consumption is my doctor's biggest concern. Apparently "12-20 cups a day" is the wrong answer to a question about how much you drink. She's concerned even though my blood pressure is perfectly normal. I also told her that I eat no plant foods. She is still most concerned about the coffee. Then it would be the eating after that.
  • lithezebra
    lithezebra Posts: 3,670 Member
    edited February 2016
    FIT_Goat wrote: »

    The coffee consumption is my doctor's biggest concern. Apparently "12-20 cups a day" is the wrong answer to a question about how much you drink. She's concerned even though my blood pressure is perfectly normal. I also told her that I eat no plant foods. She is still most concerned about the coffee. Then it would be the eating after that.
    If I weren't married, and you were single, we'd be the perfect, coffee consuming couple. I love it when I get asked how many cups of water I drink per day .... uh that would be none. I drink coffee. (My blood pressure is low normal).


  • macchiatto
    macchiatto Posts: 2,907 Member
    @Fit_Goat it's nice to come across people who drink more coffee than I do! ;) I usually drink 16-20 oz with breakfast and another 12-20 with lunch.
  • sault_girl
    sault_girl Posts: 219 Member
    !! I'm getting twitchy just thinking about that many cups of coffee!!
  • Lillith32
    Lillith32 Posts: 483 Member
    Well, wtf... I was getting cyber-yelled-at for drinking 1-2 cups? I have coffee or tea in the morning, and if the day is super-stressful maybe a diet soda. And apparently it's a health problem. Ugh. That's why I lie on those surveys. I don't smoke, I barely ever consume alcohol, (maybe a drink or two a month), I work out and am losing weight, but oh, my, we can't have you drink caffeinated beverages!
  • ki4eld
    ki4eld Posts: 1,213 Member
    I'm not entirely sure they read the comments. For my "bubble" answers, I got yelled at for eating in an unhealthy way. Yeah, bite it.

    For the "essay" answers, my answer to "what does your regular food day look like" my answer was "4 pots of coffee and a kilo of blow" and no one said a word.
  • Lillith32
    Lillith32 Posts: 483 Member
    ki4eld wrote: »
    For the "essay" answers, my answer to "what does your regular food day look like" my answer was "4 pots of coffee and a kilo of blow" and no one said a word.

    I want to be you when I grow up.
  • lithezebra
    lithezebra Posts: 3,670 Member
    I've only had one doctor suggest any dietary changes at all, and that was to stop eating sugar, to which I thought "good call." They usually say "I bet you eat a lot of vegetables and fruit" and move on.
  • Sarahb29
    Sarahb29 Posts: 952 Member
    Where's this survey? I want to take it :P
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    sault_girl wrote: »
    !! I'm getting twitchy just thinking about that many cups of coffee!!

    I get all chatty and hyper on 2 cups of coffee. I'm not a coffee drinker usually, but I can always see the days I have coffee when I come on MFP and I've replied to like 20 threads in 5 minutes haha
  • macchiatto
    macchiatto Posts: 2,907 Member
    sault_girl wrote: »
    !! I'm getting twitchy just thinking about that many cups of coffee!!

    I get all chatty and hyper on 2 cups of coffee. I'm not a coffee drinker usually, but I can always see the days I have coffee when I come on MFP and I've replied to like 20 threads in 5 minutes haha

    Hmm, maybe this is why I'm usually so chatty ...
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    ki4eld wrote: »
    I'm not entirely sure they read the comments. For my "bubble" answers, I got yelled at for eating in an unhealthy way. Yeah, bite it.

    For the "essay" answers, my answer to "what does your regular food day look like" my answer was "4 pots of coffee and a kilo of blow" and no one said a word.

    OMG, I laughed so hard that I almost peed and spit water all over my monitor simultaneously. What the heck would you have done if someone had actually read it, @ki4eld ?? LMFAO
  • FIT_Goat
    FIT_Goat Posts: 4,227 Member
    The guidelines suggest less than 250mg of caffeine a day. My estimate for myself is between 1 and 2 grams (1000-2000mg) a day. At one point, I was up to around 3 grams a day (college life). That is my physical limit before negative physical effects. I did quit at that point. It was horrific.

    At this point, I am almost afraid to quit. Every time I try and come off it, I never make it past 36 hours cold-turkey. If I try and wean, I get down to about 6 cups a day (or 12 half-caf) before I forget why I started. And, I slowly let up on my dedication and am soon back to 12-20 cups a day of full caffeine. Maybe one day I will quit. I suck at moderation (as is evident from my diet), but cold-turkey is too much for me.
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    Maybe using a caffeinated water to wean off the coffee itself, then slowly switch to regular water? It's easier to "cut" your water than coffee, isn't it, @FIT_Goat?
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