Lab Results!
Panda_Poptarts
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Hi folks!
So I got my lab results back (finally!) and I have mixed feelings.
11/2015 Results:
3/2016 Results:
Naturally, I have questions. My doc doesn't want to treat for high cholesterol at this point, due to my age and my lifestyle. He thinks I'll be fine. That being said, he was pretty concerned (and confused!) that my HDL dropped while my LDL went up. He thought that this diet would, at the very least, have both raise.
Could these changes be a result of "mobilizing fat" as he put it? Are these results normal for ketosis (I'm in month 2ish). Your thoughts and feedback are appreciated.
So I got my lab results back (finally!) and I have mixed feelings.
11/2015 Results:
- A1C - 5.8
- Cholesterol - 221 mg/dL (normal: <200)
- Triglycerides - 169 mg/dL (normal: <150)
- HDL- 77 mg/dL (normal: >40)
- LDL - 110 mg/dL (normal: <100)
3/2016 Results:
- A1C - 5.4
- Cholesterol - 219 mg/dL (normal: <200)
- Triglycerides - 123 mg/dL (normal: <150)
- HDL- 52 mg/dL (normal: >40)
- LDL - 142 mg/dL (normal: <100)
Naturally, I have questions. My doc doesn't want to treat for high cholesterol at this point, due to my age and my lifestyle. He thinks I'll be fine. That being said, he was pretty concerned (and confused!) that my HDL dropped while my LDL went up. He thought that this diet would, at the very least, have both raise.
Could these changes be a result of "mobilizing fat" as he put it? Are these results normal for ketosis (I'm in month 2ish). Your thoughts and feedback are appreciated.
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There is no normal.
Most people see a drop in triglycerides because carbs contribute to their formation. A couple of people have seen them go up.
About 1/3 see LDL go up, 1/3 see LDL go down, and 1/3 see no change to LDL. It's probably only a danger if it goes WAY up (ApoE4 genotype).
HDL is usually a slow-moving marker. It tends to go up with SFA intake and exercise.
The "fat mobilization" due to weight loss seems kind of dubious to me. Most studies don't show the effect, but a few clinicians (notably Dr Davis of "Wheat Belly" fame) say it happens.
I'd give it more time. Nothing there to worry about IMO.0 -
HDL is usually a slow-moving marker. It tends to go up with SFA intake and exercise.
I'd give it more time. Nothing there to worry about IMO.
I'm surprised that my HDL changed so much in just 3 months. Do you think that's still okay? That's the thing my doc is most concerned about, which did incite some alarm in me. It seems strange to me that my saturated fat and exercise have both increased dramatically since 11/2015, yet the HDL dropped down by quite a bit.
I'm definitely going to give it more time. Due to my age and lifestyle, I declined medication treatment at this time, and he was hesitant to offer. He does, however, want me to see a dietician and reduce my fat intake. I refused that too.
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Remind me, was it you who accidentally overdosed on fructose? I'd guess that could do it.
If so, next time will be better.
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My labs at a year were so much better too! Trust child, lol! 0
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My HDL went down 3 months after I started losing weight 6 months ago, but I wasn't doing Keto or high fat. I was doing no added sugar, no processed junk, and very limited grains though. However my latest test last week(which
incl 8 weeks on LCHF/Keto), my HDL went back up. I do consume about half my fat calories as sat fat, which I've read increases the good cholesterol.0 -
Was your baseline LP done before starting Keto?
Yes, I've had similar significant changes in HDL within only a 3 month span. I believe it is mostly attributed to fat type changes in my diet (saturated vs. mono) & changes in exercise capacity (attributed to beta antagonism/med). Other factors that can attribute to lower HDL include abstinence from drinking (before vs after keto). Fish oil can actually raise LDL up to 40% (another variable in your LP)
Triglycerides should remain really low in keto; mine were only 44mg/dL (I've been on keto for years though).0 -
I shared my test results recently and my HDL had gone down too, though I'm not stressing it at all as its still at an OK place.0
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Am I the only one that can never remember which is the good cholesterol and which is the "bad" Cholesterol? I finally thought that the H in HDL could stand for "Happy" therefore HDL was the good cholesterol, lol. I'm very interested in everyone's results, I love when these are posted. I'm pretty nervous about getting mine done because I'm on the cusp of high cholesterol already. Actually I'm pretty solidly there. But my mom's cholesterol has been high for years genetically, all my brothers and sisters as well, the most of us have the lifestyle that leaves the doctors scratching their heads as to why we would have high cholesterol. So it's just genetic.0
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I should have updated results myself in the next 4-6 weeks. It should be interesting, as I've dropped my coconut oil consumption by some, due to circumstance, not intent, but I've upped my animal fats consumption.
My overall went up (from 212 to 241), my trigs went down (from 96 to 76_, and both my HDL (45 to 50) and LDL (148-176 calculated - measured was 164) went up. But as I'm actively losing weight, I knew the LDL and overall would go up, as "free" cholesterol" in the blood increases due to burning fats during active weight loss.
They say before you get worried about numbers too much, maintain a stable weight for 3-6 months prior to testing.0 -
This concerns me, because I have always had awesome numbers on every lab test there is. I'm worried that that will change on this diet. My test results can't really get better than they were, so if they change, they'd have to change for the worse. It's a pretty big leap of faith for me.0
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This concerns me, because I have always had awesome numbers on every lab test there is. I'm worried that that will change on this diet. My test results can't really get better than they were, so if they change, they'd have to change for the worse. It's a pretty big leap of faith for me.
@fileshiny Here's the thing. Much like any change, IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING, THINGS ALWAYS GET WEIRD. They may get temporarily worse, but traditional standards, but when you get closer to goal, they'll be awesome. Try reading the book "Cholesterol Clarity" by Jimmy Moore and Dr. Eric Westman for some great info to understand this.0 -
KnitOrMiss wrote: »This concerns me, because I have always had awesome numbers on every lab test there is. I'm worried that that will change on this diet. My test results can't really get better than they were, so if they change, they'd have to change for the worse. It's a pretty big leap of faith for me.
@fileshiny Here's the thing. Much like any change, IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING, THINGS ALWAYS GET WEIRD. They may get temporarily worse, but traditional standards, but when you get closer to goal, they'll be awesome. Try reading the book "Cholesterol Clarity" by Jimmy Moore and Dr. Eric Westman for some great info to understand this.
Which goal are you referring to?0 -
KnitOrMiss wrote: »This concerns me, because I have always had awesome numbers on every lab test there is. I'm worried that that will change on this diet. My test results can't really get better than they were, so if they change, they'd have to change for the worse. It's a pretty big leap of faith for me.
@fileshiny Here's the thing. Much like any change, IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING, THINGS ALWAYS GET WEIRD. They may get temporarily worse, but traditional standards, but when you get closer to goal, they'll be awesome. Try reading the book "Cholesterol Clarity" by Jimmy Moore and Dr. Eric Westman for some great info to understand this.
Which goal are you referring to?
Goal weight0 -
KnitOrMiss wrote: »This concerns me, because I have always had awesome numbers on every lab test there is. I'm worried that that will change on this diet. My test results can't really get better than they were, so if they change, they'd have to change for the worse. It's a pretty big leap of faith for me.
@fileshiny Here's the thing. Much like any change, IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING, THINGS ALWAYS GET WEIRD. They may get temporarily worse, but traditional standards, but when you get closer to goal, they'll be awesome. Try reading the book "Cholesterol Clarity" by Jimmy Moore and Dr. Eric Westman for some great info to understand this.
Which goal are you referring to?
Yes, as goal weight - or really any goal. Once you get to a pause point, or maintenance stage. Once you get closer to where you're going on all fronts, you'll have better numbers...0 -
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KnitOrMiss wrote: »I should have updated results myself in the next 4-6 weeks. It should be interesting, as I've dropped my coconut oil consumption by some, due to circumstance, not intent, but I've upped my animal fats consumption.
My overall went up (from 212 to 241), my trigs went down (from 96 to 76_, and both my HDL (45 to 50) and LDL (148-176 calculated - measured was 164) went up. But as I'm actively losing weight, I knew the LDL and overall would go up, as "free" cholesterol" in the blood increases due to burning fats during active weight loss.
They say before you get worried about numbers too much, maintain a stable weight for 3-6 months prior to testing.
Yeah, my weight is so NOT stable. Lol. Wouldn't want it to be!
Sounds like we're both in kind of the same boat. I'm not too concerned at this point.
My doctor has persuaded me to see a nutritionist so they can tell me to eat more carbs. I'm going, but I'll be giggling all the way.0 -
This concerns me, because I have always had awesome numbers on every lab test there is. I'm worried that that will change on this diet. My test results can't really get better than they were, so if they change, they'd have to change for the worse. It's a pretty big leap of faith for me.
Take the leap.
Most folks have seen that their crappy lab results improve with time. Everything balances out!0 -
Panda_Poptarts wrote: »This concerns me, because I have always had awesome numbers on every lab test there is. I'm worried that that will change on this diet. My test results can't really get better than they were, so if they change, they'd have to change for the worse. It's a pretty big leap of faith for me.
Take the leap.
Most folks have seen that their crappy lab results improve with time. Everything balances out!
My lab results were good the last time I got them down in January for a wellness thing at work. I get them redone in June. I'm very curious to see what they say.0
