There is no such thing as a "stall"
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Thank you for your post. It is very helpful. My scale doesn't move either and it makes me question my work I'm putting into the gym, the meticulous weighing of food, the dessert skipping and the amount of money I'm shelling out for the gym membership which I've actually gone to love (well one NSV there). I keep asking myself why I keep going along with all this work when I'm not seeing the scale move as fast as I had hoped. ARGGGG!!
I'll be patient and keep this going a little longer. Hopefully my old summer clothes will fit me by wintertime at this pace
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Thank you for your post. It is very helpful. My scale doesn't move either and it makes me question my work I'm putting into the gym, the meticulous weighing of food, the dessert skipping and the amount of money I'm shelling out for the gym membership which I've actually gone to love (well one NSV there). I keep asking myself why I keep going along with all this work when I'm not seeing the scale move as fast as I had hoped. ARGGGG!!
I'll be patient and keep this going a little longer. Hopefully my old summer clothes will fit me by wintertime at this pace
It's a tough battle to win when trying to get our heads straight about the scale. I still fight it everyday but, I've come a long way since when I started.
I'm very happy this post helped in some way. We don't need to beat ourselves up over things that are very minimally in our control.
Developing a love for exercise is a great NSV! I wish I could do that!
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »You guys have no idea the details I track! lol
I'm a data junkie!
I just always feel so bad when someone gets discouraged because of the scale. I know what that feels like and I know how I overcame it and just want everyone to be able appreciate their efforts and not have their celebrations stolen from them because of expectations associated with scale weight.
My scale's been the same for 2 weeks now, and I'm still a newbie at keto. However, my body fat's down 1.5% so I figure something's happening (even though I KNOW the body fat percentage on my lying liar scale is the biggest liar of all, and completely dependent on hydration levels.)1 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »olivebeanhealthy wrote: »Awesome progress @Sunny_Bunny_ ! Thank you for sharing.
I'm curious to know all the details you track!
Oh boy! Well, I have done week long stretches of recording blood and urine ketones and comparing them to what I ate up til that point in the day and stuff like that. Also track my sleep, have done that for about 2 years. I would compare how well I slept to how active I was that day, but there's no pattern there for me. I was even curious about how MFP tells you "what you'll weigh" in 5 weeks when you close out your diary. I average up each full week and compared it to my actual average weight. Surprise, surprise! Calorie math says I should weigh 3 to 4 pounds less! Just another thing that sets us up for feeling like we've failed. I used to weigh every single thing I ate, but got to just guessing on entries because I'm going to wean off tracking all together soon anyway.
I track all the info my scale provides and average body fat and muscle from that info. I even log the vitamins I take even if they have no nutritional value.
In my earlier and scale obsessed days, I would use those calculators that would estimate how much you "would" lose by eating a certain amount of calories and would compare my actual loss to it to try and find the magic amount of calories that would actually make it happen. That's why I also weighed everything for a time. I mean everything! It never matched up.
That's how I know how bad the scale weight thing can be. I've come full circle from being completely obsessed with "making" scale weight loss happen, to realizing that it doesn't even matter in the short game. It will happen when it happens and not a second sooner.
I think at lot of this uncertainty and inconsistency stuff comes from the allowable error % in all food tracking and nutritional data... I mean the FDA allows what 20-25% error in calorie, fat, carbs, etc.? Plus, metabolism functions are so complicated that even folks who've done biometric and hydrostatic tests only have a better chance at understanding things, but the human body is made to essentially auto-correct, so even our calorie needs change all the time... That's a LOT of room for error and/or discrepancy.0 -
Great post! I really needed to read this today. I'm going to have to take the before shots no matter how much I don't want to. It's the best way to see a difference.0
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »You guys have no idea the details I track! lol
I'm a data junkie!
I just always feel so bad when someone gets discouraged because of the scale. I know what that feels like and I know how I overcame it and just want everyone to be able appreciate their efforts and not have their celebrations stolen from them because of expectations associated with scale weight.
My scale's been the same for 2 weeks now, and I'm still a newbie at keto. However, my body fat's down 1.5% so I figure something's happening (even though I KNOW the body fat percentage on my lying liar scale is the biggest liar of all, and completely dependent on hydration levels.)
How do I calculate my body fat?? Are you doing it with a professional or yourself?0 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »olivebeanhealthy wrote: »Awesome progress @Sunny_Bunny_ ! Thank you for sharing.
I'm curious to know all the details you track!
Oh boy! Well, I have done week long stretches of recording blood and urine ketones and comparing them to what I ate up til that point in the day and stuff like that. Also track my sleep, have done that for about 2 years. I would compare how well I slept to how active I was that day, but there's no pattern there for me. I was even curious about how MFP tells you "what you'll weigh" in 5 weeks when you close out your diary. I average up each full week and compared it to my actual average weight. Surprise, surprise! Calorie math says I should weigh 3 to 4 pounds less! Just another thing that sets us up for feeling like we've failed. I used to weigh every single thing I ate, but got to just guessing on entries because I'm going to wean off tracking all together soon anyway.
I track all the info my scale provides and average body fat and muscle from that info. I even log the vitamins I take even if they have no nutritional value.
In my earlier and scale obsessed days, I would use those calculators that would estimate how much you "would" lose by eating a certain amount of calories and would compare my actual loss to it to try and find the magic amount of calories that would actually make it happen. That's why I also weighed everything for a time. I mean everything! It never matched up.
That's how I know how bad the scale weight thing can be. I've come full circle from being completely obsessed with "making" scale weight loss happen, to realizing that it doesn't even matter in the short game. It will happen when it happens and not a second sooner.
@Sunny_Bunny_ it sounds like you have fully arrived at how to eat for better health. Counting/weighing has its place in the learning process just like training wheels on a kid's first bike. All you now have to do is more of the same for the rest of your life.
I hope others come to understand calorie math is not based on the science of what is happening inside of our bodies. Many years ago on the farm I realized farm animals with full access to quality feed do not become obese or develop food related illnesses as a rule.
Thanks for all of your encouragement.
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MyPrimalLife wrote: »i just lost a cousin to ALS, just yesterday. he had been suffering for 7 years. my grandmother died of ALS in 1988.
our health is about more than the scale and while i am the WORST at being a scale-watcher, i also know that mental health, cardiovascular health & general wellbeing is of utmost importance.
thanks for your post.
@MyPrimalLife sorry to hear about your loses to ALS. We lost a friend recently to ALS. I did a lot of reading on the subject and there seems to be no magic cure so prevention of general mental and physical health is important to all of us when it comes to disease prevention.0 -
What an awesome post! You are doing great Sunny
Thank you for sharing your journey and tips. I'm on day 37 and am learning so much about this WOE.... so happy with myself for sticking with it1 -
Just wanted to bump this up for those struggling to lose or having slower progress/seeming stalls... (hugs all around)6
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Aha! that's 2 ways scales lie (especially in hot weather when we're dehydrated...)Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »You guys have no idea the details I track! lol
I'm a data junkie!
I just always feel so bad when someone gets discouraged because of the scale. I know what that feels like and I know how I overcame it and just want everyone to be able appreciate their efforts and not have their celebrations stolen from them because of expectations associated with scale weight.
My scale's been the same for 2 weeks now, and I'm still a newbie at keto. However, my body fat's down 1.5% so I figure something's happening (even though I KNOW the body fat percentage on my lying liar scale is the biggest liar of all, and completely dependent on hydration levels.)
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I'm late to this party but glad I came. Thanks for posting this.3
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Thank you so much for this post...I was really needing this today.1
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You've encouraged me to start taking pictures.
I am on week three.
Week one, I lost 7 lbs right off the bat. But last week, the scales were stubborn, however, I've noticed a HUGE difference in my waist circumference.
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Bump.
Bumpitty Bump..2 -
I wasn't taking pictures at first either. I actually lost about 20 lbs before my first photos but now I have them and can't wait to take a second set to compare. I'm waiting though, for about another 10 lbs and after I get walking again. Texas heat is killing my desire to move!3
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Great posts everybody! I've been up and down for about a month now, but clothes fit differently. I bought a tape measure, but keep putting off measuring. I'm T1 diabetic & take way less insulin on LC, so changes have definitely happened in my body. I have not cheated since I started in May, but I'm also deterred by the 4 weeks of Keto flu that I had when I started. I find it's really hard for me to stay away from the scale, but I am trying. Best wishes to all of you on your LC journey.2
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Great posts everybody! I've been up and down for about a month now, but clothes fit differently. I bought a tape measure, but keep putting off measuring. I'm T1 diabetic & take way less insulin on LC, so changes have definitely happened in my body. I have not cheated since I started in May, but I'm also deterred by the 4 weeks of Keto flu that I had when I started. I find it's really hard for me to stay away from the scale, but I am trying. Best wishes to all of you on your LC journey.
Hey there,
Did you see this info?
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10358179/keto-flu-dizzy-weak-tired-headaches-cramping-muscles-electrolyte-imbalance-may-be-your-problem#latest
"Keto flu" is caused by low sodium and other electrolytes. It can recur at any time and is 100% preventable. That post should help.2 -
Bump. Such valuable information0
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I am so glad this got bumped, because I needed to see it today.
I've been so bummed about my lack of scale progress since July (middle pic), but you're right. There is more to progress than the number on the scale. Pic on the left is when I started April 2015, and the right is 2 weeks ago. I've managed to lose all this weight and keep it off since July? That's progress. I'm working out more often and able to do things I couldn't just 6 months ago (like knee push-ups)? That's progress. And looking at my pics side by side there's not a huge difference, but I see spots where I am leaner.
So I think my new resolution is not to try to diet off those last 10 or so pounds, but to keep making progress. Keep hitting the gym and keto on. The rest is just numbers.
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Amazing! Well done. Thanks for sharing1
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So glad it helped you @annalisbeth74
Looking awesome!1 -
Whew, I've had pretty steady losses weekly since starting 6 weeks ago and have been getting nervous about the week I see no loss LOL. Have been researching and planning TKD and CKD for if/when it happens. Maybe I'll just keep on keepin on instead.1
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Thanks for posting this @Sunny_Bunny_ and for bringing it back to attention.
This detail is so inspiring and important to me at the moment. I am about to go away (holiday folks, holiday, not jail) for 10 weeks (I know poor me) and I will have no access to a scale. I had planned on taking a tape measure but maybe I will just keep on, keeping on. I know what to do, I just have to keep doing it. This post helps. A lot.2 -
@collegefbfan - This post might help, too.1
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I can read this over and over and still be motivated and inspired by it. You are one tough, persistent cookie, @Sunny_Bunny_3
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