Celiac vs Gluten Free
TaraTall
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Just a conversation option here - no panties in knots please...
If you're not DIAGNOSED celiac but practice gluten free for whatever reason, what do you say when people ask?
I'm 'lucky' enough to have had an official diagnosis but when I talk to non GFers, they are so quick to be okay with me being GF but not the 'Fad' people. So how do you cope with that?
If you're not DIAGNOSED celiac but practice gluten free for whatever reason, what do you say when people ask?
I'm 'lucky' enough to have had an official diagnosis but when I talk to non GFers, they are so quick to be okay with me being GF but not the 'Fad' people. So how do you cope with that?
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I'm not celiac but I am allergic to wheat. I decided it was just easier to cut gluten out entirely (how do you separate the wheat gluten from the other sources gluten anyway???).
When I tell people I'm gluten-free they always presume I'm celiac. When I explain I'm allergic they just seem confused.
I think it's ridiculous to judge those who are gluten free by choice. I am glad that gluten-free became a fad. Because it became a fad more and more gluten-free products showed up on the market. Without them the gluten-free market would still be niche and I would still have fewer 'fast' food options. So YAY to the fadders! I appreciate you!
People make all kinds of dietary choices that maybe I wouldn't make. If I mock or sneer at them for it that would just be silly.
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I am not gluten free right now. I have a gastroenterologist appointment in February. If I have an actual diagnosable condition or not I am definitely going gluten free. I know I feel so much better without it. I know because I was on a ketogenic diet and when I reintroduced gluten containing food I felt like I felt for years before I went on the diet so whether there is something a doctor can find or not I know how much better I feel.
When I was on the ketogenic diet I ate at restaurants all the time and I don't remember anyone asking for details when I ordered food without bread. I usually explained I was on a specific diet. If I don't get a diagnosis and someone asks why I don't want gluten I will provably just tell them I feel a lot better without it. People are too judgmental about others lifestyle and health choices and if they want to think I am some weird fad person then they can. Probably won't be the worst thing they think about me.0 -
I just say I have to be gluten free for medical reasons. If they 'need' more I tell them, "I will be very ill for a long time from just a bit of gluten and I can't take that chance."1
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Personally I can't stand the fad gfers. They make others think that they don't have to be safe with my food because they see it as a choice. Yep. A choice to not damage my body. And you can separate what from other glutens from wheat. It's barley and rye. Different. Lol1
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I haven't a clue whether I'm coeliac or just allergic. When I saw a gastroenterologist to get tested, he explained that I had to go back on gluten for 6 weeks before testing. I tried, but after 3 days of not being able to leave the vicinity of the bathroom, I gave up and decided I could live with not knowing, so long as I could stay well away from gluten!2
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I had my blood tests/endoscope yesterday and I dreading both being told that I'm coeliac, and that I'm not
Obviously I'd prefer if it were 'just' severely gluten intolerant, any gluttonings will 'just' effect my body for a few days/a week, and not long term
But, I suspect I'll keep saying I'm coeliac to people not close to me, there's been so much crap about how NCGI doesn't exist, and having just spent the past month in pain/asleep for the gluten challenge, I know it certainly does! But that's not a fight I want to have with a random waiter/ess about how careful they have to be with cross contamination...
I hate having to deal with food outside the house as it is, without having to then argue that it really IS a medical issue :-/0 -
@jennyblacker - you might want to read through the Medscape threads I download in this Group, and get your own physician up to speed on NCGI as it is acknowledged by the scientific community. If something makes you sick, it isn't good for you, whether you are coeliac or NCGI. It affects quality of life, and your health. Good luck. Don't argue, just walk away.1
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Oh, my medical team aren't the ones I'm arguing with over it, you've mis-read my comment
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Ohhhh, @jennyblacker , I see what you mean now... BTW, newest Medscape article I just got in my inbox is the argument about what to call NCGS. They are wanting to change the name to wheat intolerance syndrome since 'sensitivity' actually has specific medical meaning. If waitstaff argues or even asks somewhat rudely what's involved, I leave the restaurant and go elsewhere, and post a review on Travelzoo about the attitude toward serious health concerns.
Our health is definitely not worth it.
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I tend to just say I'm celiac so that I don't have to explain all the symptoms and so people will take me at my word. However, if they ask more about it I tell them I have all the symptoms of celiac, but I am not willing to go back on gluten just to get tested. I feel like nothing in my life would change if I got tested for it!4
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Hi all, I had my blood tested and it came back as having Celiac Desease. I have been Celiac for 7 years now. When i first started out with this it was hard and it was hard for people to understand that if they put a bun on my hamburger i couldn't eat it, they would just say just take the bread off. I have to say it really irritated me. It just seemed like back then people really didn't care to learn about it. A lot of the time people would say what is that, so then i would have to explain it too them. At first I was very overwhelmed with it, but now there are so many stuff out there that you can eat. I stay away from the sweets and some what the bread. Since i have been Celiac i have struggled with weight loss, has anyone else had that problem? I am always looking for Celiac friends so if any would like to become friends that would be great!3
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I'm not celiac but I am allergic to wheat. I decided it was just easier to cut gluten out entirely (how do you separate the wheat gluten from the other sources gluten anyway???).
When I tell people I'm gluten-free they always presume I'm celiac. When I explain I'm allergic they just seem confused.
I think it's ridiculous to judge those who are gluten free by choice. I am glad that gluten-free became a fad. Because it became a fad more and more gluten-free products showed up on the market. Without them the gluten-free market would still be niche and I would still have fewer 'fast' food options. So YAY to the fadders! I appreciate you!
People make all kinds of dietary choices that maybe I wouldn't make. If I mock or sneer at them for it that would just be silly.
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The same thing happens to me! People look at me like I have three heads when I tell them I am allergic to wheat. I love that the fad has created more options for me1 -
I have been eating gluten free for some years now. I've been tested for celiac disease but my test came back negative (this was after I had been eating gluten free). I'm officially diagnose with being allergic to wheat (Epi-pen level) and oat (benadryl level). I just avoid barley and rye and I don't have a interest in trying them separately to see if I react. So its easier for me to eat gluten free. When people ask me I just usually say I'm allergic to wheat and I think sometimes they assume celiac. For the last year or so I have suspected I have another intolerance because of digestive issues. People who are eating this way because of a fad I believe helped open the door for awareness of celiac disease and gluten allergy, so if that's how they choose to eat then that's fine with me. The food industry tends to follow the trends.2
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I personally don't think it maters if you have a wheat allergy, gluten insensitivity or have celiac disease or just want to be gluten free. Those that what to compare symptoms or judge because they have x and you only have y should just be ignored.
If only we all listened to our bodies better none of us would be My Fitness Pal members.2 -
@mywindingroad : you are right that it doesn't really matter what the base reason is behind one's GF lifestyle - it's the same solution to our health problem for all of us .1
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More people understand coeliac than wheat allergy so I always tell people I'm coeliac if I'm eating out. It reduces my options but is safer than risking being made ill.
We have a greater choice in the supermarkets for gluten free items and they are edible now (which they weren't for the longest time) and I don't care if that was brought about by 'fad dieters' because I benefit regardless.2 -
I just say I gluten free for medical reasons, if I get the eye I say I was in bed for a year, needed 15 hours of sleep a day. If I get the eye again I point to my thyroid removal scar. And say it cost met thyroid and my gallbladder. Most people are impressed that I figured out how to get my butt
Out of bed and be active I stay out of the fad debate. I figure that's a few people accidentally getting healthier. Lol1 -
I stopped eating wheat back in 1998, because I figured out that pizza and bagels gave me belly pain, the pregger-bloat, and a few other charming symptoms. GF and Celiac weren't really mainstream back then. I didn't get scoped until 2009 or so. One of the two blood tests came back positive, but I've heard mixed things about the accuracy of the blood tests. By the time I got scoped, I can only assume that my gut healed, which is why they didn't see anything. My two options were to continue doing what I was doing, or to eat wheat for an entire month, anger the belly gods, and get checked again. That being said, I opted not to get tested again.
When people ask me, my response depends on the setting. For some people, I just tell them I'm low-carb. For others, I pretty much repeat the above. I try not to make my dietary issues other people's issue and try to be discreet about it. If I'm going to someone's house, I'll offer to bring something (that I know I can eat) or I'll eat beforehand. I'm actually glad GF dieting has become mainstream. "Back when I first stopped eating wheat..." the options were TERRIBLE. Dry. Crumbly. Bland. Gross. Today? OMG. I cried the first time that I had a piece of birthday cake that I could actually eat.
Since awareness has grown, I've learned that around this time of year, a lot of stuff for Passover is "non-gebroktz," which often times also means gluten-free, by the very nature of it. (Not always, so check your labels...) I personally don't celebrate the holiday, but I do reap the benefits, including 7 layer cakes and cookies that I can buy in bulk and freeze. No one questions my cookies if they look like "normal" cookies.1 -
I don't tend to give out lots of information about my diagnosis when telling someone I can't have gluten. I have been asked before if it is due to a medical condition or just preference at some restaurants. When I state it is due to a medical condition, they assured me precautions would be taken to avoid cross contamination.
I personally don't have any issue with people who make the choice to be gluten free. I will happily share recipes and tips with them.
I do have a problem with those who make such a big deal about choosing to eat gluten free while out to eat and then end up eating something later with gluten just because it tastes good.2 -
I had the blood test but not the endoscopy. In the end I decided that just knowing that I suffer by eating gluten is enough for me.2
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I don't need a diagnosis to know I have a problem with it. I have been gluten free for 5 years now. I never look back. Gluten is like crack to me and it is highly addictive. I am also under the firm belief that gluten is not good for anyone. Everyone I know who has given up gluten is very happy with their choice. Gluten made me very tired too. I don't feel like I need to defend my decision to anyone!1
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I do not have celiac, which was surprising because I had a lot of the symptoms. Naturopath recommended an elimination diet to see if we could figure out what was causing my abdominal pain and cramping. The list was daunting, so I started with the first item on the list which was gluten. 3 days without gluten and I felt like a new person! I had dealt with abdominal pain for close to 8 years and my doctor had run tests and pretty much told me nothing was wrong. He had prescribed pain meds. To find that I felt so much better just by eliminating a food was maddening! To think that I spent all that time in pain, and that was all I had to do!0
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As my doctor said, ultimately it doesn't matter if it is celiac's, allergy, or other form of intolerance, the end remedy is the same "don't eat it." My test results for celiac were inconclusive, but I'd also been eating gluten-free for a short while after doing my own elimination testing of potential problem foods. I do have a very strong family history of celiac disease though so my doctor put "celiac disease" in my medical file anyway.
Most people don't seem to have any issues when I tell them I can't eat gluten other than to ask me how they can help keep me safe. Some are generally curious as to what my diet looks like, or what problems I had before I stopped eating gluten.
The most push-back I've ever gotten was ironically from a celiac diagnosed family member who told me that since I hadn't been diagnosed via a colonscopy I don't really have celiac disease, and just don't understand that world is out to kill people that do. She's a little paranoid (with some reason) about keeping herself safe, and doesn't seem to grasp the concept that others can have issues with wheat and gluten without having them as severe as she does. Other times she's been a great resource for recipes, restaurants, and general advice so... whatever.
When eating out I usually say that I have a "wheat allergy" because at the time I went gluten-free it wasn't as common as it is now. Most waitstaff have healthy respect for food allergies though and I found framing my issues in those terms generally resulted in the appropriate care being taken.
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Personally I have found the "gluten free" fad a blessing. There is so much more food available today then when I was diagnosed 10 years ago. It's so much easier to date and join coworkers for meals out now. I do have Celiac, so I can honestly say I have an allergy- but frankly I would tell them I did even if it was just a sensitivity. Allergies are taken more seriously than a sensitivity. Happy new year to you all!1
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Hi @Cindure, I think it's a blessing too. Now lots of companies put the gluten free label on their packages so it's easier to buy without having to so carefully read labels and phone the company number on the packages to ask questions.1
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I tested negative for celiac, but have since cut gluten out and many of my problems have lessened or outright vanished. More possible testing to happen next month. If anyone gives me lip for saying I'm gluten sensitive, I'll tell them they're welcome to reimburse me for the medical bills accumulated over the past few years0
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@Zara11 I originally tested 'inconclusive' for celiac disease, but that was after being GF for a few years. I decided NOT to do a gluten challenge to get a conclusive result because it doesn't change my health insurance here, and why set myself back so far and have to re-heal again. It can take up to 3 years to heal the intestines properly even if you are eating strict celiac style but most symptom resolution comes pretty quick, thank goodness. Just keep on with doing what is healthy for YOUR body!
Do you have any issues with other foods (many do if their bodies aren't healed up enough) such as dairy, etc?
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@canadjineh Three years?! Yikes! I was going to see where I was in 6 months!
Gluten's gone. (At least, I hope it's gone! Gotta be careful with eating out & reading more labels.) I'm cutting down on caffeine & alcohol, and trying to cut out all dairy except for kefir. Need to bump up kimchi, saurkraut eating, etc.Evenings I drink bone broth & golden milk. The occasional cheese shred has slipped in, but so far week 1 has been phenomenal. Chances are I might need to eliminate a few things fully, but in the meantime, the fog, exhaustion, migraines, IBS, and muscle cramps have been either reduced or almost eliminated. Pairing it with supplements suggested by Dr., acupuncture at the moment and possibly more PT for the muscle damage later on.1 -
@Zara11 I get regular updates on Celiac Disease, NCGS, and Gluten Free issues from MedScape (a health professionals' continuing ed site with the latest published peer reviewed studies) and I post them on this group under another thread name. I was a Physio Rehab Specialist, that's why I'm a member: community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10104290/medscape-medical-professionals-continuing-ed-site-celiac-disease-gluten-sensitivity-articles#latest
You might find the information helpful for you and your primary care physician.
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