Are you watching carbs and calories?
dk6boys
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I've been in ketosis for 2 weeks, and lost very little. My carbs consistently stay very low while my calories are on the higher side. I move a lot during the day, house work and such, plus run a few times a week. Granted I don't have a ton to lose. Maybe just 20 pounds. Last year while only counting carbs not calories the weight fell off. Not this time. Feeling very frustrating and discouraged.
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I'm watching both carbs and calories for now. I am not aiming for ketosis, rather for lowish carbs- always under 100, typically 40-80. AND I'm currently watching calories- which, to my surprise is helping me be a bit more conscious of what I'm eating. I'm enjoying Intermittent Fasting right now. .. not much help on the ketosis front-3
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YES! I stay under 1750 calories a day and under 20g carbs a day. I started at nearly 2000 calories and found I wasn't losing, but to be fair, the week I dropped my calories I also started walking and stopped eating cheese for the sake of eating cheese. I do still eat cheese in or on stuff. I was struggling with my loss and figured it was those three things. (A sage person on this forum suggested I drop the cheese and I'm quite sure they were correct).
I now walk around 3 miles 4 times a week and yesterday I managed over 5 miles with about 3 of that purposeful vs. around the ranch. I work from home at a desk so I have to make myself move during the weekday. On weekends there is almost always something that needs to be done so that gets me walking and usually some strength work too; for example yesterday was hauling limbs.
I don't feel hunger when I start my day with Bullet Proof Coffee or Tea and I've done well to stay within the calories overall. If I do go over it's usually with something high fat/protein.1 -
I watch carbs and calories. I was thinking of just minding carbs, since I am now NEVER hungry. I typically fast for 16 to 18 hours just because I don't think of food. Well, I find I'm still needing to watch calories but now for a different reason. I'm finding it harder to meet my calorie goal since I don't think of food much. When I do eat, I try to make it big since I now know I won't want food again for a long time.1
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I only eat when I am hungry so I don't count calories. I only log so I can remember a general account of what I ate. Some days I am under 1200 and some days I am over 1700.2
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I keep track of both because it's become such a habit, although I pay way less attention to what the calorie total ends up as now. Don't get me wrong, I still try to be mindful of it but I'm far more concerned with the total carbs than the total calories now. I don't mind it. I find I am all over the map on the calorie part, so it's kind of nice to have a record of what is going in.1
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I count both.0
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I'm watching both carbs and calories for now. I am not aiming for ketosis, rather for lowish carbs- always under 100, typically 40-80. AND I'm currently watching calories- which, to my surprise is helping me be a bit more conscious of what I'm eating.
That's it in a nutshell.
Some folks who don't log calories discover they're taking in quite a bit more than they imagined. Same with others who resume counting calories after gaining weight - perhaps because their carb and food logging in general had gotten a little lax.
Physiologically, the advice to top off your diet with fats (after reaching your protein and carb goals) and to let appetite be your guide may work for some people. But metabolism and appetite are controlled by hormones, and these can vary enormously from person to person.
If you're tracking all your foods anyhow, it's almost easier to keep an eye on calories than to ignore them.
I'm currently experimenting with a "max-calories" rule - I stop eating for the day if I hit my total daily calorie ceiling, (which is about 200-250 calories higher than my daily goal). Since I tend to eat pretty steadily from day to day, if I do hit the ceiling, it's usually later in afternoon or evening, but it still gives me a little jump on fasting until the next day.2 -
I watch carbs and calories. I was thinking of just minding carbs, since I am now NEVER hungry. I typically fast for 16 to 18 hours just because I don't think of food. Well, I find I'm still needing to watch calories but now for a different reason. I'm finding it harder to meet my calorie goal since I don't think of food much. When I do eat, I try to make it big since I now know I won't want food again for a long time.
How long did it take you to not be hungry? I'm starving all the time!1 -
@dk6boys I know you asked Kellryn but I'm not hungry any longer either - it took a few weeks for me and I really think the BPC in the mornings helped. I drink water before I ever get out of the bed; then when I get up I make the coffee (1 T butter, 1 T coconut oil, fake sugar to your liking and some HWC. I personally use 1/4 cup because I really hate coffee for the sake of coffee. When I make Bullet Proof Tea instead I use way less heavy whipping cream. After I drink that I'm good to go for hours and hours. I do drink lots of water all day long too.1
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@Rowdyslady I'll try the bpc recipe you use. That may help me out. Thanks!0
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RowdysLady wrote: »@dk6boys I know you asked Kellryn but I'm not hungry any longer either - it took a few weeks for me and I really think the BPC in the mornings helped. I drink water before I ever get out of the bed; then when I get up I make the coffee (1 T butter, 1 T coconut oil, fake sugar to your liking and some HWC. I personally use 1/4 cup because I really hate coffee for the sake of coffee. When I make Bullet Proof Tea instead I use way less heavy whipping cream. After I drink that I'm good to go for hours and hours. I do drink lots of water all day long too.
Me too. If I drink it between 6 and 7am I'm not hungry again until sometimes as late as 2 in the afternoon. I was actually thinking of dropping it since I am at a point where I need to eat more to maintain not continue to lose.1 -
If you're just beginning on coconut oil in your coffee, use a tsp to begin with and increase it to tolerance. The issue is that it can cause really fast bathroom issues when beginning! Be warned!
To find the state of not being hungry you must increase your fat intake, otherwise you will always be hungry. In the beginning I used hwc in my scrambled eggs each morning and that created a satiety I had never felt! Would make it to supper time without thinking about food! It felt very strange, but I adjusted quickly, and began to use coffee with hwc in the mornings, and felt the same satiety. This allowed me the opportunity to decrease the calories consumed, and stay under 20 gm carbs very easily.
This woe is all about finding that balance that creates this unhungry state! Best of luck!2 -
I watch both. I focus on keeping my carbs under 100g a day/ less than 35% of my daily intake. My calories are between 1500-2000, usually closer to 2000. I'm very active excercising high intensity 5-6 days a week.0
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If you're just beginning on coconut oil in your coffee, use a tsp to begin with and increase it to tolerance. The issue is that it can cause really fast bathroom issues when beginning! Be warned!
To find the state of not being hungry you must increase your fat intake, otherwise you will always be hungry. In the beginning I used hwc in my scrambled eggs each morning and that created a satiety I had never felt! Would make it to supper time without thinking about food! It felt very strange, but I adjusted quickly, and began to use coffee with hwc in the mornings, and felt the same satiety. This allowed me the opportunity to decrease the calories consumed, and stay under 20 gm carbs very easily.
This woe is all about finding that balance that creates this unhungry state! Best of luck!
Good point...I started with a tsp but not because of bathroom issues, but because I thought it'd be gross...heck! It's yummy!!!!0 -
I watch both. I only get really hungry when I work out a ton. When I don't work out I don't get hungry but I my body in on autopilot. I can see getting to a place where I don't have to... but I am far from that now.
I have a poor record of maintaining my weight after I have lost it. If the price of staying healthy is logging my food everyday... I am prepared to do it.
I've walked to the lunch restaurant only to realize I am not hungry at all. I force myself to have breakfast because it sets me up well for the balance of the day. When I skip breakfast I find making good choices tougher.
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Good fats, proteins, and veggies are my staples.
I watch my calories but when I eat enough veggies it fills me up before I run over
On calories most times.
So it is a thing I don't often have to worry about
But I can stalk my weight loss by eating too many calories0 -
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I don't find calorie counting necessary anymore because when I eat around 110g of carbs or less, It becomes very hard to reach 1500 kcal or higher. For me, restricting carbs kind of naturally restricts calories as a happy bonus.2
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Eating low carb will help control hunger so it's easier to eat less. Eating at a calorie deficit will allow you to use weight. Low carb is great (I've been keto 2 years) but it is NOT magic. If you eat too much you won't lose weight, no matter what your macros.4
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Is the coffee part of the bullet proof coffee important? I am asking because I believe caffeine to be a great appetite suppressant. But I can't have caffeine. Would this work as well with herbal tea? I am only 1 week in to reducing my carb intake, and finding that I am very hungry between breakfast and lunch. Sometimes just feel like I'm starving right after eating breakfast. Maybe I need more fat and less "breakfast" . . .1
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Is the coffee part of the bullet proof coffee important? I am asking because I believe caffeine to be a great appetite suppressant. But I can't have caffeine. Would this work as well with herbal tea? I am only 1 week in to reducing my carb intake, and finding that I am very hungry between breakfast and lunch. Sometimes just feel like I'm starving right after eating breakfast. Maybe I need more fat and less "breakfast" . . .
No it doesn't have to be coffee. It's great with mint tea, with chai tea (I use decaf sometimes, sometimes not), etc. Whatever kind of tea you like and will taste good with creaminess added, try it and see!1 -
If you think you could be insulin resistant, taking in carbs at breakfast might be the culprit behind mid-morning hunger attacks.
Coffee is necessary for the "coffee" part of the formula only. You can use tea, water, or any other carb-free liquid, but definitely Avoid The Carbs!3 -
I watch both but I'm LC not keto. I keep Uber 100 total carbs a day and my caloric goal is 1405. I'm 47' female 5'3 and 148.5.
I usually fast 18:6 or 20:4 with an occasional 23:1. Those 23:1 days are the lowest calorie days be the longer I fast, the less hungry I am.0 -
If you think you could be insulin resistant, taking in carbs at breakfast might be the culprit behind mid-morning hunger attacks.
Coffee is necessary for the "coffee" part of the formula only. You can use tea, water, or any other carb-free liquid, but definitely Avoid The Carbs!
Carbs aren't the problem as I am eating zero carbs at breakfast. But, I'm also not eating much fat at breakfast. I also don't eat pork. So as an example, this morning my breakfast was 2 eggs and 2 turkey sausage patties. There's a little fat in there, but not much. It's mostly protein.
I'll try this (ETA: Bullet proof drink) tomorrow with herbal tea. Thanks for the suggestions.0 -
Ok, I was playing around with the food log. Todays breakfast was about an equal ratio grams of fat to grams of protein. If I try the Keto Tea (picked that term up from another thread) for breakfast tomorrow, it will be almost all fat. Could it be that I have been eating too much protein? Or maybe I'm just not fully adjusted to the LCHF thing yet? Someone above said it took about 3 weeks before they weren't hungry . . . .0
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I'm counting both. I feel like if I didn't I'd eat TWICE as many calories because I don't feel satisfied on this WOE yet (day 5 for me). I hope that happens eventually...2
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when you are habitual snacker ... the little low carb snacks like nuts , seeds add up... to a lot of calories ... if you are snacking on cheese .. its much easier to stick to calorie goals.
yes i do count both... because at the end of the week It helps me understand where i am at... in terms of net deficit for the week.
Unless you are going really low carb like 20 ish... id say it is still pretty easy to over eat in a day.4 -
I watch carbs and calories. I was thinking of just minding carbs, since I am now NEVER hungry. I typically fast for 16 to 18 hours just because I don't think of food. Well, I find I'm still needing to watch calories but now for a different reason. I'm finding it harder to meet my calorie goal since I don't think of food much. When I do eat, I try to make it big since I now know I won't want food again for a long time.
How long did it take you to not be hungry? I'm starving all the time!
I've been doing this WOE for only about 3 months. It only took about 1.5 months for my hunger to go away, but I still ate 2 meals and a snack. It's just been the last 3 weeks where I am seriously not EVER hungry. I mean really really not hungry. I've even gone almost 24 hours between meals a couple times. I'm trying to be more mindful, because I don't want to under eat by such a large margin.1 -
My problem has always been eating when my tongue is hungry. Often times my belly is full but my tongue is causing trouble... lol
I try to stay around 1500 and 30 carbs. Always count everything.2
