2016 MFP Grand Tour Challenge - Vuelta Now Up and Rolling...
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Ok, we are getting there....data posted but positions and points not yet updated...Will check again later.0
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This is the ONLY time I'm EVER going to see this during a challenge, so I'm unashamedly posting it here
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Team Twinkie Scoff - 59km from me today. Will upload ehen i can. No ride for me tomorrow (Sunday) on a plane back to Hong Kong.4
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FitterBody wrote: »FYI - It posted on Cycleleagues almost immediately but still not on the MFP LeTour Google doc spreadsheet
yep - I looked into this during the Giro...
CycLeagues updates pretty much straight away - indeed, if anything it picks up data too quickly - often hoovering up a ride before the user has had chance to change the "aactivity type" to something more appropriate (as some of us do, when using a cycling garmin to record walking/hiking distances) - this then requires manual intervention on the CycLeagues database.
Google Sheets however is potentially a much slower update. The "back end" engine that handles "refreshes" of external data sources has a latency of "approximately one hour", and the data is only refreshed on the server that buffers the data, so refreshing the spreadsheet won't help. I've got a "dirty" backdoor way of getting it to refresh, but it requires me to edit the spreadsheet to force a refresh - so it's something I do when i'm preparing to do any housekeeping on the sheet, but not something I do "on demand"...
Still - it's much quicker waiting for the "roughly once per hour" refresh from google, than waiting for me to log in and type all the data, as was the case for the past few years of running this challenge... It also means that I could possibly leave the whole thing unattended for a couple of days and actually go somewhere more interesting to ride than just "out of my own back door" at some point in the 3 weeks...
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Looks like mine loaded in fine :-).1
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I see data on the spreadsheet from today.1
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This ride here .........1:53 PM on Sunday, July 3, 2016
Just a note on this ride here, I think the data we use is fine, but my Wahoo TICKR HRM battery was failing (I am hoping a new battery fixes it) so MFP anyway came up with a really screwy calorie burn of 313 cals in 31 miles, it thought my HR was 45 BPM for much of the ride. I send data to Garmin first, which shares with Strava, which shares with MFP. Garmin is the source of the 313 cal value, Strava strips that out.
Just in case something looks screwy on a periodic review :-).0 -
nerdieprofessor wrote: »Wants a prize for being the slowest tour rider ever.
I might challenge you... currently riding with a lower back issue so I am going nice and slow.0 -
And we kicked your butt in the Revolutionary War too!!!!! For my American friends, Happy Independence Day!!!
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hawkeyegal1995 wrote: »nerdieprofessor wrote: »Wants a prize for being the slowest tour rider ever.
I might challenge you... currently riding with a lower back issue so I am going nice and slow.
We are a pair! I have a broken coccyx. Ugh. I think lower back issues are worse, although I sure miss being able to sit in a normal chair.0 -
anviljenkins wrote: »This ride here .........1:53 PM on Sunday, July 3, 2016
Just a note on this ride here, I think the data we use is fine, but my Wahoo TICKR HRM battery was failing (I am hoping a new battery fixes it) so MFP anyway came up with a really screwy calorie burn of 313 cals in 31 miles, it thought my HR was 45 BPM for much of the ride. I send data to Garmin first, which shares with Strava, which shares with MFP. Garmin is the source of the 313 cal value, Strava strips that out.
Just in case something looks screwy on a periodic review :-).
Some how that I don't understand, everything gets sent twice for me to MFP. I think Garmin is sending to Strava and MFP and Strava is sending to MFP. Anyhow, the calorie amounts are WIDELY different. I use the shape sense calculator (uses sex, age, weight, time, and average HRT) and record THAT as my calories burned. It's inevitably in the middle between the other two.
http://www.shapesense.com/fitness-exercise/calculators/heart-rate-based-calorie-burn-calculator.shtml
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nerdieprofessor wrote: »Some how that I don't understand, everything gets sent twice for me to MFP.
If you have both Garmin and Strava connected they do both update your exercise diary from the same event, and as you say, with different numbers
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nerdieprofessor wrote: »Some how that I don't understand, everything gets sent twice for me to MFP.
If you have both Garmin and Strava connected they do both update your exercise diary from the same event, and as you say, with different numbers
I thought that, but then I disengaged Garmin but it's still happening. I need to disengage everything, i think, if I can figure out how.
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nerdieprofessor wrote: »hawkeyegal1995 wrote: »nerdieprofessor wrote: »Wants a prize for being the slowest tour rider ever.
I might challenge you... currently riding with a lower back issue so I am going nice and slow.
We are a pair! I have a broken coccyx. Ugh. I think lower back issues are worse, although I sure miss being able to sit in a normal chair.
OH no!! You two are our strongest riders. Get better! I can send you both some motrin.0 -
As an example for how crazy the calorie disparity is: Today's ride was posted twice to MFP like this:
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nerdieprofessor wrote: »As an example for how crazy the calorie disparity is: Today's ride was posted twice to MFP like this:
Let me guess, first was garmin figure, second was strava...
Basically, strava said calorie readings are a 'consignment of geriatric shoe Menders' unless you have a power meter on the bike.
The double posting is a pita though... In my case I unlinked garmin connect from MFP and let strava post its figure, but that's because I've powermeters on the two main bikes I use... And, for the others, I'll manually adjust st the single post down to the GC value, because those post are likely to be pretty rare.
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nerdieprofessor wrote: »As an example for how crazy the calorie disparity is: Today's ride was posted twice to MFP like this:
Let me guess, first was garmin figure, second was strava...
Basically, strava said calorie readings are a 'consignment of geriatric shoe Menders' unless you have a power meter on the bike.
The double posting is a pita though... In my case I unlinked garmin connect from MFP and let strava post its figure, but that's because I've powermeters on the two main bikes I use... And, for the others, I'll manually adjust st the single post down to the GC value, because those post are likely to be pretty rare.
I went into the MFP settings again and disconnected Garmin. Now I get no data. Weird.
I'm just going back to doing it by hand with shape sense calculations which make so much more sense really.
I don't have enough power to justify a meter.
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A piece of black Tarmac walks into the pub acting all hard and swearing. In walks a piece of green Tarmac and the black Tarmac runs out. The same thing happens the next day and the next. Finally the landlord say to the black Tarmac:
"Why are you so scared of the green Tarmac?"
Black Tarmac responds "You don't understand - he's a cyclepath"
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An Extra Strong Mint walks into a bar full of bravado; acting all tough & swearing. He says "I'm the hardest Mint in the world! Don't mess with me..." He demands a pint of the barman's strongest Ale. He plonks himself on a barstool and starts drinking whilst snarling at people.
A short while later a Eucalyptus Cough sweet walk in & orders a mineral water. The Extra Strong Mint starts shaking, jumps off his barstool and goes & hides in a corner...
The Eucalyptus Cough sweet drinks his drink and leaves.
The barman calls the Extra Strong Mint over and says "What's up with you?"
"I though you were the hardest mint in the World?"
The Extra Strong Mint replies "Yes, I'm hard... But He's Menthol!"
Ba dum tish
I'm here all week, try the Vegan goulash 
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MFP says I have both Strava and garmin connected but MFP is getting garmin calorie burn . So I don't think Strava is sending anything to MFP0
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I think my HRM needs new batteries or something. My average HR today was 2 and my max was 10. So either it needs batteries or I am dead!1
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anaconda469 wrote: »I think my HRM needs new batteries or something. My average HR today was 2 and my max was 10. So either it needs batteries or I am dead!
... Or very, very fit (a la Lance Armstrong) 0 -
anaconda469 wrote: »I think my HRM needs new batteries or something. My average HR today was 2 and my max was 10. So either it needs batteries or I am dead!
wow - I thought my HR was low since the meds...
(rhr last night of 36 apparently... I dunno, I was asleep at the time!)
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@TheBigYin
What's the significance of the bold/not bold numbers in the individual riders' numbers on the summary page?0 -
riders in BOLD are the ones that have ridden every stage to that point... the bold stops the moment you miss a day.
It's generally a day or so behind - as sometimes people don't always update their garmin until the following day (some people do their updates at work as they don't have 'net / pc at home...)
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Thanks for the dossard!! I'm a bit behind on the challenge due to work and home issues but got in gear yesterday
Now if the weather here will allow to put in some rides I'll be happy and contributing!0 -
OK ... I'm a little behind and my coworker is on vacation (adding to my issues getting rides in)
Is there a logging thread for this? Or are we using Cycleagues for that?0 -
HA got to see my name in Cat 1, even if for just a little bit :-). I blew away a moped today, old Solex from 1969 according to the rider, but he proclaimed "I been riding these for 5 years and ain't NOBODY ever passed me on a BICYCLE...you got some strong *** legs". I had a 5-7mph tail wind and a slight downhill in my favor, giving me nearly 30mph to his 20 wide open :-). Strava says that was a 612 watt pass :-)....felt epic :-).6
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