calories & fat

meryl965
meryl965 Posts: 8 Member
how do ya'll keep your calories in line when eating a lot of fat? I need to keep mine at around 1200 in order to loose but eating all this fat makes my daily caloric intake around 1500-1700. Even though I think I'm eating enough fat, I'm still hungry. As a result, I'm at the same weight for almost a month now
any help would be appreciated

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  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    If your carbs are a limit, your protein is a range, and your fats only fill in to satiety... Your breakdown percentages should put you at your calorie goal if you don't go over anything...

    1200 calories typically aren't helpful on low carb dietary plans unless you're 4'10", 75, and sedentary...
  • meryl965
    meryl965 Posts: 8 Member
    So what are the typical calories on a low carb plan. I'm about 5'2, weigh 130 and walk about 3 miles a day (the extent of my activity)
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    Firstly, please let me apologize for being flippant. That was rude of me, and I was in a rush, and no one deserves that.

    So, just punching your numbers into a calculator, it looks like you burn about 1400 calories a day just with basic walking as your activity, and only have maybe 10-12 pounds to lose, if that. Because of that, you can afford a far lower deficit.

    I don't know what your body fat percentage is - nor your lean muscle mass, so I'm going to use just above minimum on the protein recommendation.

    What I would suggest, since you are already finding yourself hungrier and eating more fat to feel full, is to really evaluate the source of the carbs you are consuming. i can have 20 grams of carbs from broccoli, slathered in butter and cheese and I'm good to go. I can have 20 grams of carbs from dark chocolate (70-85% dark) and I'm sliding back towards being hungrier... So where the carbs come from matters.

    So as I mentioned briefly above, your carbs should be a limit. Whether that's 5 grams of carbs, 20-25 grams, or 55 grams is totally up to you. These days I'm aiming toward the principle that we should determine our carb threshold. Whatever the maximum number of carbs we *CAN* eat and stay healthy, toning up or losing weight, I think we should holds steady at the highest part of the range we can eat and and feel good in our bodies. Many keto proponents also agree - lower is not always better. The calculator defaulted to 25 grams of carbs...so that will be my example.

    In this case, protein is a range, but we'll pin a number down, so if your carbs goes up, fat goes down, or vice versa...it estimates that at your age, height, weight, your body fat percentage is around 34%, which is pretty normal for a woman. It recommends 52-85 grams of protein daily, less if sedentary, more if active, etc. Middle of the road there is 69 grams. I'd ballpark and aim for 60 grams, just to give an even number.

    Since you have so little to lose, I put you at a low deficit, 5-10%. An 8% deficit gives you about 1 pound lost per month. Roughly 105-110 grams of fat, at around 1300 calories. Most folks find that they can lose weight at less deficit on a ketogenic diet, just due to various metabolism improvements and such. That being said, until you're fully adapted, which is around 12 weeks, give or take a few, I'd eat at your "maintenance" number, if counting calories are that important to you.

    During the adapting process, the body has to burn extra calories to essentially convert it's engine to use alternate fuel sources. Your body has to "detox" from carbs as fuel and run more efficiently. Until your body learns that you're really feeding it fatty fuel, it will keep trying to get you to go back to carbs, making you hungrier, and all kinds of stuff. Personally, I don't worry too much about calories, per se. Now I'm not adding a stick of butter to every meal or anything, but I'm not skimping on an extra pat of butter because of tracking, either. I'm eating at probably 500-1000 calories over what MFP says I should be losing at, and yet today, I had almost a 2 pound weight loss.

    Ketogenic dieting is not a simple math equation. There are dozens upon dozens of factors. Maybe if I dropped all heavy cream from my dietary plan, I would lose faster, even if I replaced it all with butter...because of the insulin reaction to heavy cream. I'm not currently willing to do that experiment.

    As always, give your body a full 12 weeks on the program before you change up much of anything. Focus on hitting sodium levels of about 5000 mg daily (keto naturally dumps sodium in your urine), getting sufficient hydration, supplementing magnesium and if needed, potassium, to make sure your electrolytes are good. Use a maintenance calorie number. Your hunger will naturally fluctuate day to day. If you're truly hungry, eat. Three days from now, you may be so not hungry you eat under your calories. Caloric deficits should be look at on a 7-10 day average. We aren't simple math. We're crazy, complicated advanced mathematics at a college level...

    Let me know if this makes sense to you, or if you have any other questions. I tried to go look at your diary to see what you're eating to push your numbers higher, so feel free to give an idea, if you want further advise on what to tweak... Full fat everything, fattier cuts of meat, get adventurous!
  • ellenkilpatrick
    ellenkilpatrick Posts: 67 Member
    With me.. My cravings depend not on how carbs , but what types of carbs... Sweet fruits are a no no for me but berries are better.. Just a thought to look at what you are eating opposed to how mich