Okay Out Of Ketosis...
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So like I said we were at the boat show this weekend. Tons of protein rich foods, not much on the fat side of things. Especially not the keto kinds of fat. We get home and tested with blood strips. We were about 1.4 Thursday night before we left. Tonight I was 0.1 and the wife was 0.4. She even drank alcohol. I know one does not constantly stay in ketosis. But please tell me this for future reference..
Was it the lack of fat?
Or what else?
How long does it take to get back in?
Was it the lack of fat?
Or what else?
How long does it take to get back in?
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Has to be the little bit of brown sugar on the bacon wrapped chicken. Or the sugar in the little bit of cocktail sauce I ate0
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This is one of those "ymmv" type of things. There are a few possibilities, listed in order of liklihood. One: there were carbs in the stuff that you mighy have missed. Two, you ate way more than you think you did. Three, your body has a higher rate of gluconeogenesis than is normal.
I am personally maintaining nutritional ketosis on a diet consisting of 90-95% protein, but it's also extremely low in calories, and I am still running a lifting schedule.2 -
What is ymmv0
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collegefbfan wrote: »What is ymmv
Your mileage may vary.
My recent understanding is that even too much protein can knock you out of ketosis. Fat is the only macro that won't do that.
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Any idea what the regular time to get back in is on the average?0
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collegefbfan wrote: »What is ymmv
Your mileage may vary.
My recent understanding is that even too much protein can knock you out of ketosis. Fat is the only macro that won't do that.
It can, but it's not likely unless there's carb involvement as well. Gluconeogenesis is a fairly slow and controlled process. It doesn't slam you all at once with blood sugar like carb intake does. However, the line is pretty thin in my experience. I don't want more than 2-4g of carbs (unless fiber, then 5-8g) in a sitting accompanying high protein intake. That's about the line for me.1 -
In plain terms, gluconeogenesis?0
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The process of your liver converting aminos into glucose.1
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Oh yes. I remember now. So getting back to good keto numbers? Two days? A week? A month?0
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collegefbfan wrote: »So like I said we were at the boat show this weekend. Tons of protein rich foods, not much on the fat side of things. Especially not the keto kinds of fat. We get home and tested with blood strips. We were about 1.4 Thursday night before we left. Tonight I was 0.1 and the wife was 0.4. She even drank alcohol. I know one does not constantly stay in ketosis. But please tell me this for future reference..
Was it the lack of fat?
Or what else?
How long does it take to get back in?
It wasn't the lack of fat. You don't get into ketosis by eating fat. It has only to do with the amount of glucose in the blood. Which it seems in your case, would've been from something you ate.
You tested at 0.1, so you are still in ketosis. It's just very low levels. Even if you tested at zero, it could be as little as an hour or two to get back to making ketones. It doesn't take long. Just have to wait til the glucose and therefore, insulin, comes back down.collegefbfan wrote: »What is ymmv
Your mileage may vary.
My recent understanding is that even too much protein can knock you out of ketosis. Fat is the only macro that won't do that.
This is really only true for insulin resistant people. However, so many people are that it is a common issue.0 -
collegefbfan wrote: »Oh yes. I remember now. So getting back to good keto numbers? Two days? A week? A month?
Again, it's an entirely personal thing. It's generally influenced by a combination of insulin response and bodyfat. When I was 230+ lbs., it would take me a week and a half or more. At 150-160, it took less than 24 hours for me to drop back in, even after a high carb refeed (300-400g).0 -
I could get measurable ketones again within a day or two of very LCHF. Faster if I cut my calories more than normal or fasted. Or exercised intensely - that helps.
The longer I was in ketosis, and losing weight, the faster I seemed to get back into ketosis.2
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