HEEEEEEEEEEEEELP
tattoomary
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i seem to have fallen into a bucket of carbs and am eating my way out of it
Was doing great..and then it starts slowly. My mum bought my fav fruit cake...soo i had 1 slice...quickly followed by half the cake...then to the left over tin of roses...and buns...and, and and...you get the picture.
I now feel sick as a *kitten*.
Why do i do this...and how do I stop...Help
Was doing great..and then it starts slowly. My mum bought my fav fruit cake...soo i had 1 slice...quickly followed by half the cake...then to the left over tin of roses...and buns...and, and and...you get the picture.
I now feel sick as a *kitten*.
Why do i do this...and how do I stop...Help
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Stop eating. Throw away the foods that are derailing you. Explain how and why you're eating the way you are to your family to prevent further temptations. Start fresh immediately. Don't figure the day is screwed might as well carb it up and start tomorrow.3
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You stop by getting rid of those foods from your house, remove the temptation. Next, get back on the wagon of eating low carb. Its when you give up and stop getting back on the wagon is when you have serious problems. I think we've all had days where we've given in and eaten something we regret.3
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First, related to the carb binge issue...everyone has already given great advice.
Second, not related to the carb binge issue and the whole reason why I came into this thread...please make your thread titles more indicative to your issue. Saying "HEEEEEEEEEEEEELP" does not help. Something like "Help - I binged on carbs" or literally anything else would be much more helpful.
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Stop eating. Throw away the foods that are derailing you. Explain how and why you're eating the way you are to your family to prevent further temptations. Start fresh immediately. Don't figure the day is screwed might as well carb it up and start tomorrow.
This. Totally this. Accept that you personally have a problem with these foods and it is ok to have this problem. While they may be ok in moderation for others, they are not ok for you. At some point, that may change but not right now. Accept it. Don't take the 1st bite.
Remove the glamour, romance, comfort, celebration from food. It is just food. Nourishment.
If you don't start, you don't have to stop.
If it is not hunger, food is not the solution.
Change your habits. It is up to you.
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Thanks for all the advice from most of you
Iv thrown out all the old sweets so am going to start anew.
Just wondering what others do when they fall off the low carb wagon?
Do you just continue as normal.
Anyone do a fast ? Would this help at all?
Im sure there are others that have young kids... so not possible to have a carb free house.
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@tattoomary I have done some intermittent fasts after having a high carb day. It would usually be for about 16 hours and I would simply skip breakfast and add those calories in to my lunch and dinner. The important thing is to just Keep Calm and Keto On. Hop right back on the wagon when you fall off and as soon as possible. Don't like "Well I had really high carbs last night that kicked me out of ketosis" turn into "Well since I'm already out of ketosis let me just have this one extra high carb snack/meal". Then it turns into days or weeks before you start again. Just don't let it get you down. And if you feel horrible afterwards (mentally or physically) then let that experience deter you next time.4
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I don't really fall off the wagon so no advice on preventing that from happening. I do occasional eat something higher carb but I plan it into my day with the knowledge that carbs are rare treats.
I wouldn't really recommend fasting after. I would just move on and continue with my typical low carb eating. I think people who have struggles in their relationship with food can easily fall into an unhealthy pattern of binging and fasting to where the fasting is almost a punishment. It's best to just acknowledge that you ate off plan and get right back on the wagon. Don't beat yourself up. Just learn from it and move onward.5 -
tattoomary wrote: »Thanks for all the advice from most of you
Iv thrown out all the old sweets so am going to start anew.
Just wondering what others do when they fall off the low carb wagon?
Do you just continue as normal.
Anyone do a fast ? Would this help at all?
Im sure there are others that have young kids... so not possible to have a carb free house.
Thanks
I have a 5 year old and an 9 year old. The things we have in the house that I don't currently eat: whole oats, whole grain bread, fruit, flavored yogurt. So no, not carb free, but nothing extremely tempting either. I think it's probably easier with young children than with teens because I get to dictate our pantry with a bit more autonomy.0 -
My family are carboholics. It doesn't affect me one bit. I make my own food for breakfast and lunch. For supper they eat what I eat, plus a carby side I make for them. They have a snack cabinet where they keep their treats out of my face. Those foods are not my foods. They will only take me away from my goals, not toward them. When we have take-out, I order on-plan things for me.
When you fall off the wagon, you get right back on. No guilt (because that's done) but no excuses either (again because that's over and this is now.) You do learn whatever lessons you can from the experience like "this makes me sick" or "I can avoid this trip-up next time by doing/avoiding xyz situation."
Fasting could help. But why punish yourself, unless you actually don't feel hungry? Success at any WOE is wrought through CONSISTENCY and PERSISTENCE over TIME. Work on locking in the consistency part and the rest will take care of itself. Your actions will become good habits that will create momentum to carry you through temptations. One foot in front of the other, one meal at a time.
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I have been on LCHF for just over 2 weeks now - will be 3 on Sunday - and I only "fell off the wagon" once and it was a small slice of cheesecake. I didn't OVERindulge, so I didn't feel _guilty_ doing it (we went out to eat with some good friends of ours and the rest of my meal was perfectly well controlled low-carb Greek food, so I knew there would be temptations, but mu husband and I counted on it and were ready to climb back on afterwards, if we fell off) but within a few hours, and the entire next day, I felt like hell. Bloated, stomach making awful noises (even my dogs looked at me funny) and I barely slept that night or the next, and my heart was POUNDING from that little bit of sugar.
So yes, it happens, we all "Stray" - don't let the guilt make you crazy, but DO get back up, dust yourself off, and say "no more carbs today" and make tomorrow another fresh start.
Your body WILL need a few days (and can even be a week or more - as I explained to my husband who DID indulge in rice and pita bread, which are his downfalls) to recover and get back on track, so be kind to yourself but don't give up!3 -
Make sure you are getting plenty of water and electrolytes while you recover. Otherwise, just acknowledge what happened and start eating low carb again. It will take some time to feel better, but that sick feeling also might help you to have more willpower to turn down such foods next time.
While you can't completely prevent people around you from offering carb-heavy foods, you can decline to eat it and take steps to minimize this in the future. When I do that, I tell them why. By now, my co-workers already know I eat low carb. Sometimes the "offer" now is: "Are there carbs in xxx?" Of course, my answer is nearly always "yes" because the types of foods people share usually have carbs. It ends there because they know better than to offer me that food. Even better, they don't need to ask next time the same food is brought in. They know I don't want donuts, cake, cookies, and potato chips. They now know that I won't eat a sandwich without removing the meat from the bun. They now know not to offer potato chips. It has taken time, but I've trained those around me to not offer carb-heavy foods.2 -
I am unable to live in a carb free house. There are days it is very hard. When I fall off the wagon, I just do my best to re-start as soon as I am able, as in the very next bite. I usually don't intentionally fast and if I'm full of carbs, I wouldn't be able to fast anyway since they just make me hungry. I restart with lowering carbs as much as possible, but don't necessarily incorporate high fat....1
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Hello, when I fall of the wagon and I have a few time. I do what some say and just start fresh the next day like I never did. No guilt. I have a husband in my house that needs huge amounts of carbs with every meal, So when I cook I make him all the sides he wants and I eat my keto sides. It works for me. everyone slips and goes through rough spots. We also have people around us who don't understand why we eat the way we eat, but in my world the less attention you bring to it the better and less stressful it is. Good luck and think positive, you will get through this.1
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tattoomary wrote: »Do you just continue as normal.
Anyone do a fast ? Would this help at all?
To me, a fast is as extreme as a binge, BEHAVIORALLY. I do NOT recommend fasting to offset a binge or period of over eating. Get back on your reasonable plan of intake and continue to monitor it in regards to sufficient calories/foods to keep you satiated.
You don't have to "forgive yourself". There is nothing to forgive.
Say oops . Say dammit. Learn. Carry on.
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can you explain to your family to help you. I didn't know it but I am a Carb Addict, most of us are. So, just like you would need support if you were a drug addict, you need the same support. Ask your family including your mom, not to bring that drug into your home. If your family doesn't understand that, then you may have to stop visiting until your stronger. Strong enough to say NO! No to the drug that causes you pain and keeps you from being well. I hope that helps a little. Be strong hang in there. If that happens again, just start over. I started over 3 times before I was strong enough to be around others and say no without explanation. No needs no explanation. Be blessed:)1
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tattoomary wrote: »Thanks for all the advice from most of you
Iv thrown out all the old sweets so am going to start anew.
Just wondering what others do when they fall off the low carb wagon?
Do you just continue as normal.
Anyone do a fast ? Would this help at all?
Im sure there are others that have young kids... so not possible to have a carb free house.
Thanks
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If you can walk by a jar of silver polish without eatng it, you can do the same with a jar of chocolate sauce. It's all how you look at things.
But, yeah, it's easier if you purge the cupboards and don't have to look at your false friends.2 -
I definitely have fallen off and it sucks... I kept wondering just how low when my rock bottom would come.... each processed sugar filled treat would leave me wondering is today the day I commit to getting back on a lifestyle of eating that only my ever brought me health and happiness... the truth for me is that there isnt a rock bottom my motivation has nothing to do with food... I kept thinking.. this is it.. I just ate an entire bag of powdered donuts... but the carb pit seemed bottomless and expect it truly was... this has to be the lowest I will sink... a life event happened that relit the fire and I am on board again... just like that a switch was flipped... not sure if this is at all helpful for you but I also love in a kid filled carb home where I encourage them to eat healthy carbs and let them know that since mom is much older, those type of foods don't work in body but when I was their age, they worked very well... be good to yourself... I do find a bit of an egg fast and at least 2 liters of water a day was enough to make me feel hunger again and appreciate fats and proteins again... I wish you luck, you got this!1
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midwesterner85 wrote: »Make sure you are getting plenty of water and electrolytes while you recover. Otherwise, just acknowledge what happened and start eating low carb again. It will take some time to feel better, but that sick feeling also might help you to have more willpower to turn down such foods next time.
While you can't completely prevent people around you from offering carb-heavy foods, you can decline to eat it and take steps to minimize this in the future. When I do that, I tell them why. By now, my co-workers already know I eat low carb. Sometimes the "offer" now is: "Are there carbs in xxx?" Of course, my answer is nearly always "yes" because the types of foods people share usually have carbs. It ends there because they know better than to offer me that food. Even better, they don't need to ask next time the same food is brought in. They know I don't want donuts, cake, cookies, and potato chips. They now know that I won't eat a sandwich without removing the meat from the bun. They now know not to offer potato chips. It has taken time, but I've trained those around me to not offer carb-heavy foods.
I find it really helpful to have shared my diet with my colleagues, it provides me with massive accountability. I've been so adamant that I won't touch carbs, no way, no how, that if I were to break down and eat carbs in front of them now, I would feel soooo ashamed. And they're all so incredibly supportive and encouraging because they can see how much weight I've lost that the shame and embarrassment of eating carbs in front of them now would not be worth the indulgence at all. I'd feel like a huge failure... it's one thing to fail privately, alone, at home, it's another thing to do it in front of everyone you work with. It really helps keep me in line2 -
The fact that it takes a couple days to get back into ketosis keeps me from allowing myself to say, "ahfeckit just this one time won't hurt." Because it does, in fact, hurt. It takes me a full week to get back on track to weight loss again, even if I'm following exactly to plan. So it's a preventative measure more than anything. If I don't start, I don't have to stop. I've also figured out my "allowed comfort foods." i.e. I can bring a baggie of pepperonis to the movie with me, so I'm not feeling deprived while my family passes around the popcorn.2
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PaleoInScotland wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »Make sure you are getting plenty of water and electrolytes while you recover. Otherwise, just acknowledge what happened and start eating low carb again. It will take some time to feel better, but that sick feeling also might help you to have more willpower to turn down such foods next time.
While you can't completely prevent people around you from offering carb-heavy foods, you can decline to eat it and take steps to minimize this in the future. When I do that, I tell them why. By now, my co-workers already know I eat low carb. Sometimes the "offer" now is: "Are there carbs in xxx?" Of course, my answer is nearly always "yes" because the types of foods people share usually have carbs. It ends there because they know better than to offer me that food. Even better, they don't need to ask next time the same food is brought in. They know I don't want donuts, cake, cookies, and potato chips. They now know that I won't eat a sandwich without removing the meat from the bun. They now know not to offer potato chips. It has taken time, but I've trained those around me to not offer carb-heavy foods.
I find it really helpful to have shared my diet with my colleagues, it provides me with massive accountability. I've been so adamant that I won't touch carbs, no way, no how, that if I were to break down and eat carbs in front of them now, I would feel soooo ashamed. And they're all so incredibly supportive and encouraging because they can see how much weight I've lost that the shame and embarrassment of eating carbs in front of them now would not be worth the indulgence at all. I'd feel like a huge failure... it's one thing to fail privately, alone, at home, it's another thing to do it in front of everyone you work with. It really helps keep me in line
I shared the keto WOE with 2 colleagues earlier this week. They have been for weeks offering me snacks that they take turns restocking in the office. I've been telling them I can't have it. Sometimes I look at the label and then I tell them I can't have this. When they ask why I say "Well this has 8g of sugar and I eat only 30g or less of net carbs per day and this is already 1/3rd plus I don't eat sugar". That was one day. Then a few days later they said "How much sugar and carbs can you have a day?" And then the next day they asked why. I made it a point to not impose my WOE on them but since they were interested I told them about keto and they even asked for links to read up about it so I provided that as well. It's just been 2 days but at lunch time we all shared what we were eating and swapped recipes and shopping lists. One of them is so excited about it she has already convinced her mother to try. So it's incredibly helpful to have people around that are on the same plan as you. But if not, you really have to power through it and just hold yourself accountable. I'm also the type of person that, even if they weren't following this WOE but they knew I was, if I deviate from it in front of them then I would feel bad and that helps me stay on track.0 -
tattoomary wrote: »Thanks for all the advice from most of you
Iv thrown out all the old sweets so am going to start anew.
Just wondering what others do when they fall off the low carb wagon?
Do you just continue as normal.
Anyone do a fast ? Would this help at all?
Im sure there are others that have young kids... so not possible to have a carb free house.
Thanks
I wouldn't fast as a fix for a binge. There is definitely something that doesn't feel emotionally healthy about that.
This is what worked for me. You have to change the way you even view those foods. They are not special and amazing and treats and you're denying yourself... they are not good for you. They harm you and keep you from what you want. They literally affect your brain and make it incredibly difficult for you to stop eating them. They addict you and interfere with behavior that you want to be consistent. THEY ARE NOT FOOD FOR YOU.
So,
You have others around that eat those foods, so you have them in your house.
Do you have a cat or dog? Are you tempted to eat their food? Of course not! Because it's not food for you.
If you can program your thinking so that those foods are no more special than a can of Alpo... you'll have no problem. That stuff isn't special. You can make low carb sweets, though any sweets shouldn't be a regular thing, because it just keeps you craving food when you're not hungry. But you could plan a low carb dessert day twice a month or something and make something decadent. It's certainly better than eating the carbage1 -
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Re-embrace WHY you should stop sabotaging. Think about every bite and "whether it is worth it" and "whether it puts you further down the path you want to travel". Then come back here often for support and reinforcement. This is a loving community with many who have had the same struggles.
Your frank honesty about your struggles is the first step...good for you! You recognize there is a problem and YOU need to do something about it...yes, YOU. Having kids is not an excuse...you can have a house full of healthy carbs rather than empty carbs and your kiddos will still thrive if fed healthy, nourishing foods. They may *kitten* and whine if they don't get candy or French fries, but they will thrive. If you get them started on great choices, they will be much likelier to make great choices in their future.
We are all here to support you, but YOU have to make the committment and choices. We are all in the same battle, so why not battle together?2 -
I am a sugar addict.... 20 days sober... my house has been filled with chocolate chip cookies, red velvet Oreos, candy, pound cake. Nila wafers.... and I haven't touched any of it.
I've gotten to a point to where I FOCUS on my goal. Its so easy to fall off the wagon and just say "I'll start over tomorrow. " If I keep starting over, I won't get anywhere.... I'm focusing on my goal. Changing a habit takes mental stamina. Temptation is everywhere. At work, at restaurants, at home, at a friend/relatives house.
Instead of saying "I can't have that. " say "I dont want that".....rewire your brain. Its hard, but doable. The reward center in your brain wants you to indulge, but focus in the goal every time you eat....3 -
But to answer your other question..
HIIT will help you recover. (High intensity interval training) requires readily available energy sources and carbohydrates are perfect for the job... you need to utilize the sugar you just ate and a large percentage of the sugar stored as glycogen in your muscles. Your body wont completely deplete your carb storage, but your levels may be too high for ketosis.
Try getting your heart rate to stay between 70 and 80% of your max HR for 30 minutes with small decreases in your HR for 1 minute every 4 minutes.
It takes the body 4 days to burn off a heavy cheat day lol.... so be patient1 -
Cheats happen. The hard part is getting up afterwards, pulling up your big girl pants saying that happened and trying to learn from your mistakes.
If you can identify the trigger it is much less likely to happen over and over. Ask your mum not to buy that cake or if she does not to tell you. If she is getting your favorite carbs for the kids only get enough for them, etc.1 -
WOW thanks so much for all the responses, what a great community
I think the reason i fell off the wagon was that I let myself get hungry. I made myself a low carb dinner but it was awful and I couldnt eat it.
When I plan and prepare Its much easier to say no to the bad foods.
My mum buys the fruit cake for the kids once a week, and drops it down.
I generally dont keep much rubish in the house..only a few biscuits for the kids.
I definatly am a carb addict...and like others said once I start I cant stop...to the point of taking sweets back out of the bin (I know, I know)
So I have pulled by big girl pants up, lol, did my pilates class this morning and am firmly sitting back on the wagon
Many thanks again to all...it makes a big difference to know that the support is here x4 -
tattoomary wrote: »WOW thanks so much for all the responses, what a great community
I think the reason i fell off the wagon was that I let myself get hungry. I made myself a low carb dinner but it was awful and I couldnt eat it.
When I plan and prepare Its much easier to say no to the bad foods.
My mum buys the fruit cake for the kids once a week, and drops it down.
I generally dont keep much rubish in the house..only a few biscuits for the kids.
I definatly am a carb addict...and like others said once I start I cant stop...to the point of taking sweets back out of the bin (I know, I know)
So I have pulled by big girl pants up, lol, did my pilates class this morning and am firmly sitting back on the wagon
Many thanks again to all...it makes a big difference to know that the support is here x
I have been there! Nothing is worse than when you are ravenous or you have been craving this one recipe that has been pinned on your Pinterest for so long, only to make it and it turns out bad. What are you left to eat? I've had a good number of recipes that did not turn out right. I'm getting into the habit now of cooking food 1.) When I'm not really hungry that way if it doesn't go right I won't feel like I'm going to die and 2.) When I still have some left overs of the previous food. That way if it does go horribly wrong I still have a day or something to go back to the grocery store and make a tried and true recipe.1
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