Advice Please:-) Keto questions

aimos87
aimos87 Posts: 55 Member
edited November 17 in Social Groups
Hi,

I started LCHF 3 weeks ago and suffered badly with Keto Flu for the first week or so. I am now feeling better however am not experiencing weight loss like a lot of other people doing this WOE. My friends who have had great success have advised to not get caught up on calories and just make sure you are tracking your carbs. I have my carbs set at 26g however, i usually am around 20g or or under.

I guess i am after some advice as to what i am doing wrong if i am indeed doing anything and i know weight loss can take time but just want to check i am on the right path? My break up looks like this according to a OKL chart i was given to use base on my gender and height...

Protein: 106g
Carbs: 26g
Fats: 79-185g

I was reading an article where someone said they didn't start dropping kgs until they dropped their protein and upped fat even more.

Thanks:-)

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  • DietPrada
    DietPrada Posts: 1,171 Member
    Not necessarily good advice. It's okay to worry only about carbs for the first week or so, until your body adapts. However, you do need to watch your calories. Keto is not magic, if you're not eating at a calorie deficit you will not lose weight. As a general rule you would be looking at under 20g carbs, meet your protein goal, and the rest is fat UP TO your calorie goal. Upping your fat only increases your satiety (lessens your hunger) but you want some of your "fat" to come from your body fat too. If you're eating too much fat you will not utilise body fat. If you are eating too little you'll be hungry.

    Use a good calculator to get your macros https://www.ruled.me/keto-calculator/

    Example macros (mine) - I'm 42yo female 190lbs 5'10":

    1429 calories.
    103g fats
    20g carbs
    106g protein

    Some people report large initial water weight losses, but if you're losing one pound a week you're doing really well. I'd suggest setting your macros under goals in MFP, including your calorie target, and track for at least a couple of weeks and see where you're at. Going by your fat range above I bet you're eating way too many calories for weight loss.

  • aimos87
    aimos87 Posts: 55 Member
    Hi,

    Thanks so much for clarifying. I'll check out the calculator and see how i go!
  • _tierachanel
    _tierachanel Posts: 124 Member
    Be careful lowering your protein!! I tried that and my hair started falling out because it was too low.
  • cstehansen
    cstehansen Posts: 1,984 Member
    Protein is a hot topic, as you may see. Some attribute hair loss or other issues with low protein. Studies show any significant dietary change can have this effect and as long as you are getting proper nutrition, these types of things will be transient and resolve within 2-3 months.

    One thing that will cause hair loss on going is a lack of B-12. Since the only natural sources of B-12 come from animals (and to a very small amount some fungi like yeast), it is somewhat linked to protein intake, however not entirely.

    Protein is easier for your body to convert to glucose through gluconeogenesis than fat is, and some proteins will increase your insulin even without this process, so that can effect weight loss as (high) insulin is not your friend in terms of losing weight.

    You definitely need protein. How much is still hotly debated. The research I have been able to find puts the number on the lower end of what you will see here. However, research also seems to show this is individually variable. More active in general equals higher need. More insulin resistant in general means more likely that protein will be converted to glucose.

    I would only suggest you follow the above in terms of keeping carbs below 20 TOTAL, not net for a while and play with the protein/fat ratio to see what works. Once you see what works there, you can then start playing with carbs to see if going over 20 total but keeping net under 20 works. Again, this has a lot of individual variability on how bodies respond.

    If you are concerned about losing lean mass (muscle), that has more to do with exercise than with protein intake as long as you are getting at least a minimal amount. Thinking logically, when I do lunges now, I need to be holding 40 lbs of weights to create the same resistance my muscles had when I did lunges without weights before because I have lost roughly 40 lbs of body weight. If I want to keep the muscles that were capable of doing that exercise, I need to give them that same amount of workout.
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    You CANNOT compare yourself to other people when it comes to weight loss.
    You've been at it 3 weeks. You're not even fat adapted yet and you're already having feelings of failure. Give yourself more time and as long as carbs are low and you're eating healthy fats and getting enough protein and ONLY eating when hungry and not eating too often... that's all you need to do. Some people find they can't trust their hunger signals and really need to weigh and track food to avoid overeating. Consider if that may be the case for you or not.
    Calories do count but many people find enough overall appetite reduction that they don't overeat without really trying. That's not the case for everyone. EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT, and that includes how fast they lose too.
    Don't stress. It'll happen.
    Eat when hungry.
    Only til satisfied.
    Not too often.
    Keep carbs low.
    Dont eat inflammatory vegetable fats.

  • cstehansen
    cstehansen Posts: 1,984 Member
    You CANNOT compare yourself to other people when it comes to weight loss.
    You've been at it 3 weeks. You're not even fat adapted yet and you're already having feelings of failure. Give yourself more time and as long as carbs are low and you're eating healthy fats and getting enough protein and ONLY eating when hungry and not eating too often... that's all you need to do. Some people find they can't trust their hunger signals and really need to weigh and track food to avoid overeating. Consider if that may be the case for you or not.
    Calories do count but many people find enough overall appetite reduction that they don't overeat without really trying. That's not the case for everyone. EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT, and that includes how fast they lose too.
    Don't stress. It'll happen.
    Eat when hungry.
    Only til satisfied.
    Not too often.
    Keep carbs low.
    Dont eat inflammatory vegetable fats.

    I think this last part about vegetable fats is the one thing that gets overlooked the most. Those so-called healthy oils (corn oil, safflower oil, soybean oil, etc.) have turned out to be one of the single most unhealthy things out there.

    Even if you are getting the right grams of each of the macros, if your fats are coming from these, you will not succeed. Good sources of fat include:

    coconut/coconut oil
    animal fats (preferably grass fed if it fits your budget)
    olives/ olive oil
    fatty fish (salmon, sardines, etc.)
    avocado/avocado oil
    butter (preferably from grass fed)
    eggs (preferably from pastured fowl - chicken, ducks, geese and turkey are all good)
    most nuts - some of the best being Brazil, pecans, pili, macadamia

    Bad sources include:

    any oil with the word "seed" in it
    vegetable oil
    soybean oil

    These are not exhaustive lists, but they should be helpful.
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