I went shopping with my Mum (85 years young!) and whatever I do, bless her heart, she listens. I told her a while ago that my H had cut his carbs, and we found he feels so much better for it and has reduced his diabetic medication to practically zero.... she is also type II diabetic and while at her age, she finds it soooo hard to change her habits, (being Italian and a gourmet cook, she has always figured carbs into recipes and eating regimes) she's eager to try, and never stops learning. I know I am blessed by this - it could so much (by all accounts above!) be the other way, so I count myself immensely fortunate to have such an open-minded mother.
As we walked the streets going from one shop to another, buying what we needed, there were the 'big' people, feeding their kids sugary drinks and snacks, to basically shut them up/keep them occupied/distracted/quiet... It was all i could do to stop myself from approaching them with a comment, but then, ironically, I would have been as 'guilty' as your parents....
Shove information down peoples' throats, and you'll encounter resistance every time. Because as has been said, any criticism is taken as an offence, and the guilt is there already....

@cr8tivewonder, I have to agree with everyone here who's advised you to 'let the results speak for themselves'. And in your shoes, I would certainly expect some kind of support from my partner....

Gadzooks!

We could write a pilot if not a whole season on the Flat-earther sisters of sensible LCD group members.

They all seem to take the cake, each in her own oblivious way.

As I understand it, you went to THEIR HOUSE and they SUPPLIED FOOD, including steak and Ceaser salad that you could eat, and you commented negatively about the dessert's ingredients impact on you, and they responded. You sound rude to me. And its none of your business how much cake they eat. You are not the keo-vangelist.

Next time, invite them over and you provide the food. Or bring food that you can eat to their house.

Over your weigh in scale, keep a graph of your weight loss over time and post photos in a bathing suit monthly tracking your progress. You can also bring these with you when you visit, but leave them in the car until requested by them. THESE documents will be the keto-vangelist without you saying a word.

MelissaM1178 wrote: »

Allie2060 wrote: »

Are your parents overweight? I find I get no support and some negative comments from family members who are heavy themselves. I don't know why they feel the need to criticize, but I suspect they don't want to watch me lose weight while they don't. It's just a theory. I'd never ask them.

My sister is like this. I lost 100lbs on Weight Watchers a few years ago and went from the 'fat' sister to the smallest. I got lax on the tracking and gained about 25 lbs back and decided after a vacation with my husband and son to start eating keto and my sister keeps telling me I am going to have a heart attack and how do I plan on eating this way for the rest of my life. She is an angry person in general and I feel like she just wants to keep me down. Good thing my husband decided to go keto with me. I like when he tells her to shut up and let me eat my steak and mashed cauliflower in peace

Love how your husband chimed in on this

I have a sister who is used to being the thinnest in the family. Right now she weighs more than me, but she doesn't say anything, it is just a look in her eyes so far. Since she has had two bouts with cancer now, I don't think she will dare tell me what I should be eating.

cstehansen wrote: »

Cryren8972 wrote: »

Also, I have to be gluten free, because I've been diagnosed as intolerant. Even ended up in the ER with a hole in my colon.
I had family members bring by literature explaining that gluten free was terrible for you. Dropped it off...at my house...with my daughter.
When we go out to eat with them, they always want to go to Italian restaurants, or fish camps. I go, and order gluten free, low carb. They never say anything, but I can FEEL the disapproval. Oh well, I feel SO much better and it's just not worth it to me.
I do know how you feel though. Hugs!

Not sure if you saw this from another thread, but it could be helpful in responding to your family:

Here's one on the chimerical connection between diabetes and would-be "gluten deficiency"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/gluten-free-diets-may-be-tied-to-an-increased-risk-of-type-2-diabetes/2017/03/13/4ce6dc26-059f-11e7-ad5b-d22680e18d10_story.html

Antidote::

http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/2017/03/gluten-diabetes-headlines-get-wrong/

It is from this thread:

http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10346123/official-diabetes-diet-misinformation-any-candidates-for-the-darwin-awards#latest

You would think that a hole in my colon would have clued them in that I am better off without it. Doctor even wrote me a "note". lol
They're finally starting to come around, because I haven't had any of the stomach trouble I was having before. I had to miss family functions, or go home early because I hurt. I'm not doing gluten free to follow a fad, I'm doing it because I have to.
To be honest, I think it's all the chemicals they spray on wheat these days, and how it's processed that's the problem for me...and for others that are seeing issues.

I have been bringing dishes that are keto friendly, but not obviously so. That way, no one questions me. A big yummy salad with full fat dressing, and maybe a SF cheesecake (shhh, don't tell em its SF and they won't even know!) and you have something safe to eat. It is hard when family is involved, especially when food is involved. Some people take it personally when you don't eat food they prepared for you. My mom discovered she is a celiac 10 years ago, so thankfully, she understands food limits. She still makes my husband and boys her famous pecan pie and biscuits even though she can't eat any of it. It is hard to make changes and not step on any toes in the process. Good luck!

KnitOrMiss wrote: »

caroldavison332 wrote: »

As I understand it, you went to THEIR HOUSE and they SUPPLIED FOOD, including steak and Ceaser salad that you could eat, and you commented negatively about the dessert's ingredients impact on you, and they responded. You sound rude to me. And its none of your business how much cake they eat. You are not the keo-vangelist.

Next time, invite them over and you provide the food. Or bring food that you can eat to their house.

Over your weigh in scale, keep a graph of your weight loss over time and post photos in a bathing suit monthly tracking your progress. You can also bring these with you when you visit, but leave them in the car until requested by them. THESE documents will be the keto-vangelist without you saying a word.

@caroldavison332 - I think there as a bit of missing context here. I imagine her family probably said something when she didn't take cake, or every time they talk, or just kept giving her a look, or anything else she didn't spell out that could be presumed. Besides, within a family, generally, anything can be a leaping off point. I didn't take it that she was lecturing her family, but more responding to being put on the spot.

Let's please remember to keep it gentle, here. No need to call names. Remember that written words tend to take on a tone based on the reader's perspective or a presumed experience. There was not necessarily any rude intention or meaning behind her post. She may have even deleted a sentence for length and not noticed it affected context, etc.

I agree that she shouldn't pass judgment on her family, nor should they on her. Thank you for the reminder to stop and look at our own actions.

Thanks, @KnitOrMiss.

Ignorant is great word here. They cannot and most of the time will not try to understand this WOE. It is a totally different concept to how we were raised, and how the USDA, doctors, dieticians, trainers, fitness magazines/sites publish the recommended WOE. The first thing everyone thinks of when I tell them my diet is that I will die of a heart attack and my cholesterol is out of control. They cannot fathom that the body produces 3,000mgs of cholesterol on its own and if ingest 300mgs the body simply regulates making less of its own. Its a struggle.

@KaseyDH83 That is awesome! Yeah people think that we are depriving ourselves when in reality we have opened up a whole bunch of possibilities that those on the ADA will not be able to enjoy. I cant believe a diabetic is not following this WOE, but some people (and one in my own family who is diabetic) think they know better than their own body. Thats what this WOE has done for me. Taught me how the body processes food and how it adjusts for its needs. GREAT JOB keep it up.

Eating for life vs death is really changing my health markers and Outlook on life for the better.

Yet 3 years ago my health was crashing from a life time of carb abuse. Since diabetes is a leading cause of diabetes in the process of earning my OD degree we should have covered how to eat to prevent that cause of vision loss it would seem.

Diet never came up that I remember.

GaleHawkins wrote: »

Eating for life vs death is really changing my health markers and Outlook on life for the better.

Yet 3 years ago my health was crashing from a life time of carb abuse. Since diet can be a leading cause of diabetes in the process of earning my OD degree we should have covered how to eat to prevent that cause of vision loss it would seem.

Diet never came up that I remember.

Thanks @AlexandraCarlyle for catching that I replaced the first 'diabetes' with 'diet'.

PaulaJSchiller wrote: »

One of my daughters, who has always been weight conscious, eats healthy in a MCLF(moderate carb, low fat) sort of way, works out regularly and has kept her great shape and bounced right back after having had a baby, is one of my biggest critic. She thinks any "diet" that excludes an entire food group is just wrong and a crazy fad. She has seen the success I have had with this WOE, and she has now seen me struggle and put weight back when I incorporate more carbs back into my diet. She doesn't badger me, but she's very skeptical and just doesn't get it or agree. I just say that what has worked for her hasn't for me, and that this is what does. She has also never had lose weight, or had an issue with abusing carbs. She can eat half a cookie and that's enough, a couple of M & M's and done!! While I will obsess over the remaining M & M's until I know every last one has past by my lips! Haha!

One thing I notice is she eats frequently and get hangry if she goes to long without eating. While I can go hour and hours and don't need a thing. I don't say a word, I don't think she makes the connection that it is due to my WOE. But if what she is doing is what works for her she doesn't need my advice and I just want the same respect for my choice.

If it is different it is Bad way of thinking has been programmed into most all of us be it religion, WOE, brand of car, etc. Keep up your good success.

People at can eat 2 M&M's and walk away will understand those like some of us. The only good bags of M&M's use to be Empty bags.

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