The Coconut Oil Experiences Thread
arguablysamson
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So I never used coconut during my journey...until now. This is the first night I've tried it. I'd be interested to know from others how your OMAD has been going with something like coconut oil in your coffee.
Describe how you like, when you tend to take it, and how it has worked for you in terms of metabolic improvements or appetite suppression.
Describe how you like, when you tend to take it, and how it has worked for you in terms of metabolic improvements or appetite suppression.
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Ive been using coconut oil since April 2016, I use it for everything...I used to eat like 3 tablespoons a day but now I only eat about 1 tablespoon a day...It really does help with appetite.
Appetite Suppressant
Yeast Infections
UTIs
Hemorrhoids
Oil Pulling
Dry Skin
I cook my eggs in it, pop my popcorn in it, and when I bake I use it to replace the oil in my desserts.
The brand I use is Island Fresh Superior Organic Virgin Coconut Oil, Cold Pressed...I get it from Amazon.
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Wow Brenda, that's a lot of info!
I first tried co as an appetite suppressant at the suggestion of members of this group, mainly on the weekend. It helped. Once I made a 'pudding' by soaking chia seeds in water then adding a tsp of co to the resulting gel. It turned two tsp into a pretty good snack! I have Spectrum co on hand, leftover from my kids dabbling in paleo. Have also added to hot tea.1 -
I love coconut oil! I cook with it since it has a higher smoke point. Before OMAD I used to put it in my coffee 1 tablespoon with 1 tbsp. of grass fed butter (kerry gold) and 1 tbsp. of heavy whipping cream. You need to blend it to make it frothy. It is delicious!! And yes, it will keep you full for a very long time!3
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I cooked with it a few times (mainly when scrambling eggs) and could taste the coconut but it wasn't overwhelming. I added a tablespoon to a green smoothie once and it made the whole smoothie taste like pure coconut. It was nauseating to me and I ended up throwing the smoothie away.
I haven't touched the stuff since. I wasn't using it to control appetite...I was using it for the healthy fats since I rarely eat fish.
I'm not sure of the brand or type, but I'll post them later.1 -
@Mom2annie I have also tried to put coconut oil in certain foods and ended up not liking it but I really love it cooked with popcorn, It's my favorite way to consume it, you should give it a try...Some coconut oils are stronger tasting than others and the one I use now is not strong at all
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I keep a container with me at work and around 2 or 3 pm when I start getting hungry, I will eat about 1/2 tsp (50-cals) if I get really hungry. I don't use it often but the neat thing about it is it suppresses the appetite and it doesn't cause binge mode like other stuff will after a long fast.2
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brendagaudette wrote: »@Mom2annie I have also tried to put coconut oil in certain foods and ended up not liking it but I really love it cooked with popcorn, It's my favorite way to consume it, you should give it a try...Some coconut oils are stronger tasting than others and the one I use now is not strong at all
Thanks! I plan to try it again when I can afford to splurge on a new jar of a milder brand/type. I don't like popcorn, except occasionally at the movie theater, but if I ever get a hankering for homemade popcorn, I'll definitely try coconut oil.1 -
I've been doing a T of co per day for the last 11 days. Usually I add it to smoothies. I've had it in coffee and today put it in my oatmeal. I haven't lost any weight since starting it although I've met calorie goals each day. Frustrating but going to stick with it. I think I've lost inches because my pants are looser.2
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Wow. A first time offender in coconut oil usage? Say it isnt so!! Lol. You need to try what's called "Bulletproof Coffee". Put you cup of hot coffee in a blender, preferably one that is NOT the "Magic Bullet" style....., add one tbsp of coconut oil, 1 tbsp Kerrygold Grass Fed butter, 1 tbsp heavy whipping cream and sweetener of choice. Blend and get ready for the best coffee you ever had in your life. I guarantee it.1
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I am ready to call this one out. It does not give energy and it DOES hinder fat loss, at least for me, but I've also had feedback on it that is negative. I know that the power to agree with what is faddy and popular is strong indeed, but I've got to call this one out. I never used it to lose, and in the last few weeks, have tried it with a purely open mind to see if it would. Nothing. Gotta call a spade a spade.1
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Coconut Oil didn't help me with weight loss either but what it did help with was my Candida and Oral Health 1
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I've never tried coconut oil, main reason is it seems gimmicky and the latest greatest health remedy. I've looked into it, and there are certain kinds you should/shouldn't get and its expensive to boot! My husband and I make our own fire cider (master tonic), and we have bees so we have raw honey. These have been around for ages! I actually thought avocados were going to be the next best thing! Lol!!! I'm sure it tastes good, and has some health benefits, the coffee recipe looks delicious! The higher smoking point for cooking is good too, just I'm not going to count on it as a weight loss helper but more of a food that has benefits.0
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Coconut oil doesn't cause weight loss directly and it would be better to fast than to eat it for weight loss but if your going to either binge or control your appetite with a little coconut oil, then coconut oil is a better trade off IMO.
It does control my hunger and doesn't cause me to continue eating which is about the only thing that I've found that will do that. If I'm really hungry (cant' concentrate at work) and it is close to the end of the fast but I've got an hour or two to go and I try to eat just a little something to get me through, that never works and I will eat a lot if I get started, unless, I take coconut oil which does kill my appetite and does not send me on a binge like everything else seems to do if I start eating at the end of a fast. 100 cals of coconut oil will last me about 2-hrs whereas if I get started eating, it might be 1000 cals before I'm done.
I've ran several 5ks and lifted a lot at the end of a long fast and I've also tried coconut oil right before those workouts at the end of the fast and I felt they helped with energy levels. From what I've read, it is quickly assimilated and doesn't go through all the digestion that other fats have to go through. It didn't help me as much as a recharged glycogen system does but I felt it helped some.2 -
Coconut oil. HUGE success of the Coconut Marketing Board.
Some pacific islands needed an export. That's how it all started.
Coconut is possibly the worst of the oils. Per 100 grams, it has more saturated fat than butter or suet. No one I know at our university thinks coconut oil is good for anything but taste. Tastes good in curries! I've heard it is also good for your skin.
Look at that saturated fat content!
Also, finally, someone has called out Costco for claiming coconut oil is healthy! Check out this lawsuit. https://www.truthinadvertising.org/kirkland-coconut-oil/
*Anecdote. The last time my daughter was home, I made a side dish with coconut oil. She told me she and her friends avoid it. Called it artery-clogging. For reference, she is an Olympian with a couple of golds, and all her friends are as careful about their workouts and diets as she is.1 -
thanks for posting this ! Good to know1
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Good info, keep it coming @amflautist and @arguablysamson !!0
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http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/10/22/coconut-oil-and-saturated-fats-can-make-you-healthy.aspx
Not all saturated fats are the same, this is a Medium-Chain Fatty Acid... I've been using Coconut Oil for a year and all my lab work is good, in fact my cholesterol has improved 4 -
It's wonderful that your cholesterol has improved! I hope it continues to improve.
(Today I am going to try a fast - as you do. Wonder if that will help my cholesterol?)0 -
amflautist wrote: »It's wonderful that your cholesterol has improved! I hope it continues to improve.
(Today I am going to try a fast - as you do. Wonder if that will help my cholesterol?)
Thanks...Yes fasting is good for improving your cholesterol...So I'm sure by doing a water fast it will still help, I've been water fasting once a week for 4 months...How long are you going for? Mine are usually for 38-40 hours long 1 -
Off topic but when you added your weekly water fast did it increase your rate of weight loss.brendagaudette wrote: »
Thanks...Yes fasting is good for improving your cholesterol...So I'm sure by doing a water fast it will still help, I've been water fasting once a week for 4 months...How long are you going for? Mine are usually for 38-40 hours long
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brendagaudette wrote: »amflautist wrote: »It's wonderful that your cholesterol has improved! I hope it continues to improve.
(Today I am going to try a fast - as you do. Wonder if that will help my cholesterol?)
Thanks...Yes fasting is good for improving your cholesterol...So I'm sure by doing a water fast it will still help, I've been water fasting once a week for 4 months...How long are you going for? Mine are usually for 38-40 hours long
HA! So much for the thought that fasting will improve cholesterol. It actually makes it worse, much worse. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10539776
Anyway, I will be fasting for ~48 hours. Had a bit of food last night ~7pm. Will eat at the end of a cooking demonstration tomorrow, around 7pm.0 -
Off topic but when you added your weekly water fast did it increase your rate of weight loss.brendagaudette wrote: »
Thanks...Yes fasting is good for improving your cholesterol...So I'm sure by doing a water fast it will still help, I've been water fasting once a week for 4 months...How long are you going for? Mine are usually for 38-40 hours long
I will answer this on my journal 0 -
@amflautist
The keto people use MCT oil derived from coconut oil a lot and claim LCHF improves blood panels. One of these is Peter Attia at eatingacadamy.com. He and a lot of others claim with studies to back it up (and personal experiences) that saturated fat isn't the culprit. There are a lot of people that would disagree with what you posted. I'm just an observer but there are a lot of people who have improved their blood panel on a LCHF diet or at least claim to have. Attia I do think warns not to eat HF with HC I do believe though.
I don't use it much and I think I'm still not sure I would want to eat a lot of fat in case it is bad but I think how I use it, to stave off hunger on an occasional basis, isn't going to hurt me and it does help me to keep the calories down.1 -
@blambo61 I believe LCHF diets are just fine. Nonetheless, I think one needs to be careful about statements regarding high fat vs highly-saturated fat. Can we stipulate that peer-reviewed research studies should be the basis of our discussion?
I want to address the basic contention of your thesis about LCHF, that "LCHF improves blood panels", and "a lot of people who have improved their blood panel on a LCHF diet" - which I do not disagree with! I honestly believe that we have been led into left field by low-fat injunctives. There is nothing wrong with fat and indeed I love it! But there are a lot of researchers a lot smarter than I am on this issue.
Therefore, I performed a simple search of peer-reviewed research, "peer-reviewed research saturated fat effect on cholesterol", and in the first paper I sampled, I read the abstract. It says:
"Replacement of saturated fat by polyunsaturated or monounsaturated fat lowers both LDL and HDL cholesterol."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2824150/
And if you read further down in that paper, you will find that substitution of saturated fat by fat that is high in alpha-linolenic acid has the most benefit. The research says choose fats that are lower-saturated but also higher in alpha-linolenic (i.e. omega-3!!!) fatty acids. The chart above helps do this.
In summary, I believe there is substantial evidence that saturated fats aren't all that good for you.
Edit: I checked out the definition of MCT. "Medium chain triglycerides, a form of saturated fatty acid". It seems if you want saturated fat, MCT is the one to choose.0 -
Problem is I can find peer-reviewed research to show that people eating saturated fat improves their blood panels. Some-peer reviewed "science" can be very biased also (not saying this is). Plenty of anecdotal evidence too by many people who do use a lot of saturated fat. Here is one person that argues for sat fat. I haven't watched this presentation. He is a medical doctor and bio-med researcher.
http://eatingacademy.com/nutrition/how-did-we-come-to-believe-saturated-fat-and-cholesterol-are-bad-for-us
I'm very leery myself of pounding down a lot of sat fat from meat sources. My "gut" tells me (and religious training) that that isn't a good thing. I'm not sure about other sources like coconut oil. I'm sure there could be interactions with other macros like eating sat fats with refined carbs or not also.
For me though it is a non-issue I think cause I don't take very much of it at all, just in emergencies to get me through a difficult spell which is maybe once every week or two. I rarely take more than a tsp total when i take it. I think not eating 1000+ cals vs that is a good tradeoff. I'm not a proponent of keto except in cases where it help diabetics, and other maladies. I think there are penalties eating keto style but for some it is worth it. I don't think it is the healthier way to eat when there is nothing wrong with us. That's just my opinion.2 -
I know the limitations of arguing from "samples of one," but we all have our own experiences, which tend us to believe and thus act one way or another. I love full fat cream -- not half and half, and certainly not skim milk -- in my morning coffee. It satisfies me but does not spark my hunger. Like Bob with coconut oil, if I'm feeling a little peckish I may occasionally also have a decaf coffee in the afternoon, also with full fat cream. The richness satisfies enough to tide me over to dinner. Again, that's just me; others will have a different experience. Although I don't do low carb, I do eat a lot of high fat dairy in cream and cheese, and I am fond of bacon, chicken with the skin on, and a well marbled steak, too. So, @blambo61, I was pleased (if somewhat astonished) when I got the results of my annual physical a couple of weeks ago. Not only was my blood sugar fine, but my cholesterol levels were, as the doc put it, "fabulous." That doesn't mean I'm going to go from one reasonably sized serving of steak a week to four, or eat a pound of bacon and a round of cheese for dinner, or, for that matter, replace the cream in my coffee with butter and coconut oil. But it's gratifying to know that intermittent fasting in maintenance can yield good results, at least for this OMADer.4
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heart disease its early stages start to settle in since childhood, autopsies performed on children as young as 10 year old shows fatty streaks already forming in their arteries
cholesterol/saturated fat contained in all animal products and vegetable oils in the diet cause damage to the endothelial cells in the arteries
the good news is that the number one killer in the western world not only can be stopped in his tracks but actually reversed with a whole food plant based diet, no other intervention can actually reverse the condition
around 735 000 people in the US alone suffer a heart attack every year according to the CDC0 -
coconut oil is also great for oil pulling your teeth, also great as a skin facial...it removes wrinkles yeah! quite nice with black coffee but I can manage my fasts without it1
