When to call the ambulance...
KenSmith108
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A sample menu from the Mayo Clinic diabetes website:
When planning meals, take into account your size and activity level. The following menu is tailored for someone who needs 1,200 to 1,600 calories a day.
Breakfast. Whole-wheat bread (1 medium slice) with 2 teaspoons jelly, 1/2 cup shredded wheat cereal with a cup of 1 percent low-fat milk, a piece of fruit, coffee
Lunch. Cheese and veggie pita, medium apple with 2 tablespoons almond butter, water
Dinner. Salmon, 1 1/2 teaspoons vegetable oil, small baked potato, 1/2 cup carrots, side salad (1 1/2 cups spinach, 1/2 of a tomato, 1/4 cup chopped bell pepper, 2 teaspoons olive oil, 1 1/2 teaspoons red wine vinegar), unsweetened iced tea
Snack. 2 1/2 cups popcorn or an orange with 1/2 cup 1 percent low-fat cottage cheese
I get more calories, by this menu I get more carbs.
A carb only breakfast would set me up for the spike of spikes.
I don't pay their bills so what do I know.
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When planning meals, take into account your size and activity level. The following menu is tailored for someone who needs 1,200 to 1,600 calories a day.
Breakfast. Whole-wheat bread (1 medium slice) with 2 teaspoons jelly, 1/2 cup shredded wheat cereal with a cup of 1 percent low-fat milk, a piece of fruit, coffee
Lunch. Cheese and veggie pita, medium apple with 2 tablespoons almond butter, water
Dinner. Salmon, 1 1/2 teaspoons vegetable oil, small baked potato, 1/2 cup carrots, side salad (1 1/2 cups spinach, 1/2 of a tomato, 1/4 cup chopped bell pepper, 2 teaspoons olive oil, 1 1/2 teaspoons red wine vinegar), unsweetened iced tea
Snack. 2 1/2 cups popcorn or an orange with 1/2 cup 1 percent low-fat cottage cheese
I get more calories, by this menu I get more carbs.
A carb only breakfast would set me up for the spike of spikes.
I don't pay their bills so what do I know.
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I'm curious to know how much carbs tgis adds up to. Just a quick look at it's safe to say it would put me over my max. Way to go, Mayo1
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@KenSmith108 I crunched the numbers. I wish I could post a screenshot.
Carbs: 383
Fiber: 42
Sugars: 740 -
That breakfast reminds me of cereal commercials when I was a kid. "Part of this nutritious breakfast" that had sugary cereal, toast, and a giant glass of orange juice. lol2
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@KenSmith108 I crunched the numbers. I wish I could post a screenshot.
Carbs: 383
Fiber: 42
Sugars: 74
HOLY COW!1 -
This used to be my SO's version of a healthy breakfast and still what his 10 year old son prefers to eat when he comes for the weekend... sometimes skips the toast for a second bowl of cereal. I calculated the numbers once and suggested he just give him a can of soda and chocolate bar. Our bodies don't absorb most of those "fortified vitamins" anyway, so not much difference. Oh the look of horror at the suggestion lol.1
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I can't find the link but some time ago, it was calculated that a specific breakfast cereal was less nutritious, less filling and eminently less satisfying than the cardboard box it came in.... Although admittedly, this could be an urban myth... It wouldn't surprise me though.
It's impossible to tell when the first link/page was published, but I will leave you to draw your own conclusions as to which article is more accurate and researched. Even the Snopes forum got in on the act....0 -
@KenSmith108 I crunched the numbers. I wish I could post a screenshot.
Carbs: 383
Fiber: 42
Sugars: 74
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This would be more carbs that I have eaten in the last month.7
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I'd be a bit more than miffed if we're diabetic and read something like that. What's worse is someone sees it and believes it cuz Mayo Clinic. Very sad.3
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I'm not even IR, and that menu strikes me as one that would leave me hungry. It's got no protein or vegetables at breakfast, is low protein, and probably not that many vegetables at lunch (whatever goes in the pita, I guess), and an okay but kind of high carb dinner. Snacks have some additional protein, at least, but again high carb and NOT particularly high fiber. Lame.2
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lemurcat12 wrote: »I'm not even IR, and that menu strikes me as one that would leave me hungry. It's got no protein or vegetables at breakfast, is low protein, and probably not that many vegetables at lunch (whatever goes in the pita, I guess), and an okay but kind of high carb dinner. Snacks have some additional protein, at least, but again high carb and NOT particularly high fiber. Lame.
That was exactly my thought. While I'm menopausal (and thus, possibly IR), that menu would make me MISERABLE! The breakfast would make the rest of the day virtually impossible.3 -
i thought this was a low carb thread? what?0
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elisa123gal wrote: »i thought this was a low carb thread? what?
They are showing how bad some advise is by recommending these high carb meals.0 -
Yikes!0
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383 gm carbs?? Dang!!0
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KenSmith108 wrote: »A sample menu from the Mayo Clinic diabetes website:
When planning meals, take into account your size and activity level. The following menu is tailored for someone who needs 1,200 to 1,600 calories a day.
Breakfast. Whole-wheat bread (1 medium slice) with 2 teaspoons jelly, 1/2 cup shredded wheat cereal with a cup of 1 percent low-fat milk, a piece of fruit, coffee
Lunch. Cheese and veggie pita, medium apple with 2 tablespoons almond butter, water
Dinner. Salmon, 1 1/2 teaspoons vegetable oil, small baked potato, 1/2 cup carrots, side salad (1 1/2 cups spinach, 1/2 of a tomato, 1/4 cup chopped bell pepper, 2 teaspoons olive oil, 1 1/2 teaspoons red wine vinegar), unsweetened iced tea
Snack. 2 1/2 cups popcorn or an orange with 1/2 cup 1 percent low-fat cottage cheese
I checked out their website:
"Appointments & care
At Mayo Clinic, we take the time to listen, to find answers and to provide you the best care."
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"Mayo Clinic in Minnesota has been recognized as the best Diabetes & Endocrinology hospital in the nation for 2016-2017 by U.S. News & World Report."
Oh, really...? and who exactly are (or is) U.S. News & World Report"...?
"US News is a recognized leader in college, grad school, hospital, mutual fund, and car rankings"
They do love this word 'recognized', don't they? By whom? In comparison to what? And is it truly global or is it just hyped-up blurb.... I smell a fish that's 3 days old. Out of the fridge. In a warm kitchen.
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Yep! So many will accept this as truth since Mayo says so!
When i first began lchf (2 1/2 years ago!) I added up a typical days food and it wasn't unusual for me to consume 450 carbs a day! Plus, I thought i was doing good trying to follow the experts recommendations, and i was always hungry! Sooooo sad!0 -
LOL That's how I ate, so healthfully, in my 20's to 30's while my body was working towards insulin resistance.
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What's even more sad is that this would actually be an improvement for lots of people... would be a huge improvement for my sisterlemurcat12 wrote: »I'm not even IR, and that menu strikes me as one that would leave me hungry. It's got no protein or vegetables at breakfast, is low protein, and probably not that many vegetables at lunch (whatever goes in the pita, I guess), and an okay but kind of high carb dinner. Snacks have some additional protein, at least, but again high carb and NOT particularly high fiber. Lame.
I totally agree. Especially with that last part!0 -
That's pretty much how I ate through high school right up until diabetes kicked in. I struggled with it for awhile afterwards, too, until I figured out the LC thing.0
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Can we have a class action lawsuit?2
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AlexandraCarlyle wrote: »
I think, in good part, this is why many are so reluctant to change their guidelines. They'd have to admit they've been giving such poor advice and perhaps open themselves up to lawsuits.1 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »What's even more sad is that this would actually be an improvement for lots of people... would be a huge improvement for my sisterlemurcat12 wrote: »I'm not even IR, and that menu strikes me as one that would leave me hungry. It's got no protein or vegetables at breakfast, is low protein, and probably not that many vegetables at lunch (whatever goes in the pita, I guess), and an okay but kind of high carb dinner. Snacks have some additional protein, at least, but again high carb and NOT particularly high fiber. Lame.
I totally agree. Especially with that last part!
Could you picture what compliance rate they would get with a keto level diet.
Just give up your 500/600 carbs cold turkey & enjoy this shinny new pill.
For my first 25 years or so the ADA diet & meds worked somewhat.
Then the slope gets too steep, tons of meds & the control goes out the window. or
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