Glucose spikes
1234usmc
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I was flipping between the 3 English speaking channels here in my hotel in Japan last night and a special caught my attention. It was called glucose spikes. You could probably Google it. Anyway, they were explaining how glucose spikes cause heart disease and alzheimers. They talked about low carb diets and how they work, but are hard for most people to stick too. They have 50 years of research and they have several suggestions. Limiting carbs and walking after a meal were both on their list. Their biggest finding was in the order that you consume food. They showed this typical Japanese guy and had him eat his typical meal and measured his glucose at 30,60,90 min. Of course he had rice and his sugar spiked to 240 60 min after eating. A few days later they had him eat the same foods but veggies first, then meat, then rice ladt. His sugar at 60 min was only 130. They said the dietary fiber coats the small colon and then the lipids in the meat did as well so the rice didn't get digested until later in the intestines, so not as much carbohydrates was absorbed.
Personally I eat low carb most of the time but not keto. I have an occasional piece of bread or no sugar added ice cream but it's very limited. This special really made me sit here and think. I'm going to have to do some more research on my own but wondered if anyone had any experience or thoughts on the subject.
Personally I eat low carb most of the time but not keto. I have an occasional piece of bread or no sugar added ice cream but it's very limited. This special really made me sit here and think. I'm going to have to do some more research on my own but wondered if anyone had any experience or thoughts on the subject.
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I was flipping between the 3 English speaking channels here in my hotel in Japan last night and a special caught my attention. It was called glucose spikes. You could probably Google it. Anyway, they were explaining how glucose spikes cause heart disease and alzheimers. They talked about low carb diets and how they work, but are hard for most people to stick too. They have 50 years of research and they have several suggestions. Limiting carbs and walking after a meal were both on their list. Their biggest finding was in the order that you consume food. They showed this typical Japanese guy and had him eat his typical meal and measured his glucose at 30,60,90 min. Of course he had rice and his sugar spiked to 240 60 min after eating. A few days later they had him eat the same foods but veggies first, then meat, then rice ladt. His sugar at 60 min was only 130. They said the dietary fiber coats the small colon and then the lipids in the meat did as well so the rice didn't get digested until later in the intestines, so not as much carbohydrates was absorbed.
Personally I eat low carb most of the time but not keto. I have an occasional piece of bread or no sugar added ice cream but it's very limited. This special really made me sit here and think. I'm going to have to do some more research on my own but wondered if anyone had any experience or thoughts on the subject.
That's very interesting. Typically, there's a glycemic index # assigned to a food, with no adjustment for the total amount of calories consumed, the amount of fiber, or the order of consumption. Sounds like there's more to the story...1 -
Is this it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MOaZJFsl00
I bet the fact that protein was before the rice/starch helped too.
But I am of the opinion that skipping the rice helps the most.
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@nvmomketo - Interesting results - lots of people with glucose spikes (even with the threshold set high at 140).
These would never be caught with ordinary fasting BG or A1c tests - no substitute for regular testing, especially post-prandial.
And yet another wake-up call for diabetics to lay off the carbs....0 -
that is the one I was talking about0
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I watched it. It was pretty good. It made me wonder about the BG spikes and how young I was when started getting them. I bet I was in my late 20s...1
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Great flick.0
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I have been keeping my blood sugar readings normal with strict carbohydrate control. But as soon as I eat even small amounts of carbs 30-40 I have 100-150 spike. Anyone have any ideas?0
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I have been keeping my blood sugar readings normal with strict carbohydrate control. But as soon as I eat even small amounts of carbs 30-40 I have 100-150 spike. Anyone have any ideas?
Actually, it sounds like you've already figured it out.
IMHO....
Simple answer - you're diabetic, and your system can't (presently) handle sugar. For many of us, 40g of (net) carbs at one sitting is not a small amount - it's more than we can handle in an entire day.
Almost all carbs, even the so-called "good" or "complex" carbs, turn to glucose.
(You can test this yourself. Get a vial of Diastix (glucose test strips). First, try swishing a teaspoon of butter or oil around your mouth for a while, then test the mush with a test strip. Second, try the same thing with almost any carb - bananas, bread (even "whole grain" bread), french fries, crackers, skim milk, "protein" bars, etc....
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YMMV, but as far as I can see, your options for keeping your BG under control are:
1. Restrict your carbs to the extent necessary to keep your diabetes in remission.
If necessary, add metformin, the only oral diabetes med (I know of) that doesn't cause hypoglycemia if your dose is off.
2. Take other oral or injectable diabetes meds and hope they work.
3. Inject appropriate amounts of insulin to cover the carbs in your diet.
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I have been keeping my blood sugar readings normal with strict carbohydrate control. But as soon as I eat even small amounts of carbs 30-40 I have 100-150 spike. Anyone have any ideas?
I'm similar. A lot of carbs will raise my BG no matter what. Eat carbs with fats = high BG. Eat carbs with protein = high BG. Even lots of carbs with fibre end up with higher BG.
And those high BGs tend to linger. It seems to take a day to come down all the way again.
Staying low carb is the only way for me.2
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