Vivid dreams

SammieCosme
SammieCosme Posts: 48 Member
edited November 20 in Social Groups
So today is my 3rd day on keto and I woke up crying like a full cry that actually woke me up. Is that normal with keto? Is it because of the drastic change to my body.?

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  • tcunbeliever
    tcunbeliever Posts: 8,219 Member
    It's probably a hormone shift since your body manufactures hormones from fat and if you were low fat previously you may have been unable to manufacture what your body thinks it needed, so maybe a flood of hormones as building block became available?
  • SammieCosme
    SammieCosme Posts: 48 Member
    Would make sense because I also got my monthly a week early. And for some reason my cramps are full force!!!
  • debodom1962
    debodom1962 Posts: 310 Member
    The dreams have been crazy! Very vivid, at times viloent and scary. Like where is that coming from lol?
  • tcunbeliever
    tcunbeliever Posts: 8,219 Member
    I very rarely remember my dreams, and when I do they are usually all about sex...<shrug>...vivid, oh yeah, better than a movie!!!
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    There is a change in your brain fuel when going low carb and/or keto... This can cause more brain activity while sleeping, relating to remembering your dreams, dreaming in vivid color or activity, or being so ... just intense that you wake feeling slightly worn out... For some people, this fades over time, for others, it requires changing things up... There are too many options to mention of what to change... The hormonal shifts, the energy shifts, sleeping deeper, sleeping better, all play a part...
  • debodom1962
    debodom1962 Posts: 310 Member
    @KnitOrMiss you described what I am going through perfectly. I go to bed around 11:00 and wake up at 1:30 am wide awake. The rest of the night I'm in a semi-awake dreaming vividly sleep. One of those you wake yourself out of and go right back to :( And then when I get up, I'm more tired than when I went to bed. It takes a few hours to shake that off, or I drink a glass of No Salt Water and that helps. I'll be glad when that subsides.
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    Most people know about supplement timing, like you take any D3/K2 during daytime, and take magnesium at night (or both day and night, if you tolerate it okay)... MCT oil during the day (instant brain fuel), etc.

    Additionally, unless you're a very rare exception, you can have a few more carbs at dinner time to help the sleep.

    If you continue to have insomnia like reactions, having a bit of sea salt before bed helps, there are amino acid therapies, and temporarily (if doctor okayed), melatonin or a melatonin/theanine combo might help with sleep quality.

    Using blue light blockers on your phone/electronics, keeping your sleeping space cool and very dark, using meditation before sleeping, etc. can all help improve sleep quality. Getting a good sleep/bedtime routine really helps some folks, as does trying to wake and sleep at the same time each day, even off time (weekends or days off work, etc.)...

    Also, making sure to get bright light within 30 minutes of waking, and again at lunchtime, really helps to set up your proper natural circadian rhythms to taper to sleep naturally. Try going to sleep as soon as you get tired (that's your natural rhythm telling you it's ready for sleep), because if you don't, you'll get another boost of cortisol, and catch that "second wind" and find it hard to wind down. (Cortisol naturally spikes and tapers - so spikes at waking, tapers around lunch - if no nap, get light, and you'll get another natural boost, which will taper around bedtime, which is when we should sleep, not try to stay up to do more, etc....)
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    edited August 2017
    I should mention that the same things some people need to avoid actually help certain folks to settle in to sleep better. So it's all about experimenting and adjusting to find what works for you... Remember to give any changes 4 weeks to see true independent results...

    @debodom1962
  • tcunbeliever
    tcunbeliever Posts: 8,219 Member
    Your body can only uptake melatonin with adequate magnesium, so if you go that route you are best off adding both.
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    When I was much younger, I used to dream in musical comedy format, with all us dream characters breaking into song and dance numbers as the plot unfolded.

    I miss those dreams, especially the ones where I was the lovely leading lady soprano.

    Wow!

    I'll have a bowl of whatever she's having......
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    Dear Mr. Lott:
    Our client, Mandycat223, wishes us to advise you that her photograph is not be used without express written consent.

    Yours truly,
    Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered, Attorneys at Law.

    My client, Mr. Lott, accordingly requests your express written consent. I am informed that he adores your client and that his health and well-being, in particular his ability to resist twinkies and orange juice, depend on his ability to partake of her likeness multiple times hourly.

    Thank you in advance for your client's anticipated exhibitionistic generosity.

    Benjamin Dover, Esq.

    PS How did you score such a cool client?

  • AlexandraCarlyle
    AlexandraCarlyle Posts: 1,603 Member
    I'm currently having a weird dream about @RalfLott and @mandycat223 communicating as lawyers with some decidedly off-beat client as a subject matter.
    I think I ate too much Gorgonzola affumicata last night.....
  • SuperCarLori
    SuperCarLori Posts: 1,248 Member
    Your body can only uptake melatonin with adequate magnesium, so if you go that route you are best off adding both.

    Oh my word....maybe THIS is why I'm sleeping so soundly the past few days!!!! I cut out the mag when I was eating carbs, but took it back up this last week!

    Thank you!
  • SuperCarLori
    SuperCarLori Posts: 1,248 Member
    I'm currently having a weird dream about @RalfLott and @mandycat223 communicating as lawyers with some decidedly off-beat client as a subject matter.
    I think I ate too much Gorgonzola affumicata last night.....



    Whoa, what a nightmare! :D:D
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    edited August 2017
    I'm currently having a weird dream about @RalfLott and @mandycat223 communicating as lawyers with some decidedly off-beat client as a subject matter.
    I think I ate too much Gorgonzola affumicata last night.....

    Close.....

    In reality, we were bawling at full throttle about one another's perfidy.

    (Start around 7:23 to see us at our best...)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMmFrpgXuCA&amp;feature=youtu.be&amp;t=7m23s
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    edited August 2017
    I'm currently having a weird dream about @RalfLott and @mandycat223 communicating as lawyers with some decidedly off-beat client as a subject matter.
    I think I ate too much Gorgonzola affumicata last night.....

    Whoa, what a nightmare! :D:D

    Au contraire - a dream come true! (see previous post)
  • SuperCarLori
    SuperCarLori Posts: 1,248 Member
    RalfLott wrote: »
    I'm currently having a weird dream about @RalfLott and @mandycat223 communicating as lawyers with some decidedly off-beat client as a subject matter.
    I think I ate too much Gorgonzola affumicata last night.....

    Whoa, what a nightmare! :D:D

    Au contraire - a dream come true! (see previous post)

    So wonderful you all are. What a joy. :)
  • GlassAngyl
    GlassAngyl Posts: 478 Member
    I have always had freakishly vivid dreams.. I thought that was normal until learning later in life that most people don't or don't even recall their dreams. I can have some pretty Stephen King dreams that can be terrifying as well as awesome. Now that I've been low carb (trying to do keto but just can't seem to go more than two days under 20g carbs..) I've been noticing more WEIRD dreams. Some kind of twisted but mostly just don't make any sense. I suppose it's better than the drowning kittens and stabbing them through their hearts dreams I would randomly have. For the record, I love cats so... I'm at a loss as to why I'd want to kill them. I'd rescue them all if I could.
  • kpk54
    kpk54 Posts: 4,474 Member
    I have always been intrigued by dream interpretation though have never let it rule my daily life decisions. I don't recall ever dreaming about cats but this link is interesting.

    https://www.canidae.com/blog/2014/09/what-do-dreams-about-cats-mean/

    One can condition themselves to wake up mid-dream with the purpose of writing it down to remember it. I have done this off and on simply because I tend to not usually remember dreams but find them fascinating. The detail is amazing! Many of my dreams include water whether it is a stream, an ocean, a swimming pool. Fortunately the water has never been turbulent though that does not always signify a positive in dream interpretation. :)

    It is also fun to reflect on the colors of your dream and research color/color in dreams. Fun stuff for me.
  • Xerogs
    Xerogs Posts: 328 Member
    GlassAngyl wrote: »
    I have always had freakishly vivid dreams.. I thought that was normal until learning later in life that most people don't or don't even recall their dreams. I can have some pretty Stephen King dreams that can be terrifying as well as awesome. Now that I've been low carb (trying to do keto but just can't seem to go more than two days under 20g carbs..) I've been noticing more WEIRD dreams. Some kind of twisted but mostly just don't make any sense. I suppose it's better than the drowning kittens and stabbing them through their hearts dreams I would randomly have. For the record, I love cats so... I'm at a loss as to why I'd want to kill them. I'd rescue them all if I could.

    I am like you I have always had very vivid dreams. Going LCHF has increased them somewhat and my ability to recall details is definitely enhanced. I have always heard that its not so much about the content of the dream but how you feel in the dream that matters the most. I must admit that I use imagery from my dreams all the time to make paintings and other art work. It's interesting to breakdown what your subconscious is working through when you dream since it does in some respect relate to your conscious self even though the imagery and symbolism may be whacked out. Lucid dreaming is a whole other experience but it is sometimes difficult to attain.

    As far as the killing cats it could be that you know you can't save them all. So it would depend on how you felt about it in the dream. There are probably better definitions out there in a dream dictionary.
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
    kpk54 wrote: »
    I have always been intrigued by dream interpretation though have never let it rule my daily life decisions. I don't recall ever dreaming about cats but this link is interesting.

    https://www.canidae.com/blog/2014/09/what-do-dreams-about-cats-mean/

    One can condition themselves to wake up mid-dream with the purpose of writing it down to remember it. I have done this off and on simply because I tend to not usually remember dreams but find them fascinating. The detail is amazing! Many of my dreams include water whether it is a stream, an ocean, a swimming pool. Fortunately the water has never been turbulent though that does not always signify a positive in dream interpretation. :)

    It is also fun to reflect on the colors of your dream and research color/color in dreams. Fun stuff for me.

    I've always dreamed in vivid colour and trained myself to repeat or continue favorite dreams when I was young. My favorite was always a flying dream, swooping like a swallow over amazing scenery, kind of like an IMAX drone movie. Also lots of graceful swooping ski dreams, and water-ski dreams where I'm repeatedly crossing the wake from one side to the other on a pristine flat lake at sunrise/sunset. Not a lot of people appear in my dreams as you can tell, lol.
  • GlassAngyl
    GlassAngyl Posts: 478 Member
    xerogs1 wrote: »
    GlassAngyl wrote: »
    I have always had freakishly vivid dreams.. I thought that was normal until learning later in life that most people don't or don't even recall their dreams. I can have some pretty Stephen King dreams that can be terrifying as well as awesome. Now that I've been low carb (trying to do keto but just can't seem to go more than two days under 20g carbs..) I've been noticing more WEIRD dreams. Some kind of twisted but mostly just don't make any sense. I suppose it's better than the drowning kittens and stabbing them through their hearts dreams I would randomly have. For the record, I love cats so... I'm at a loss as to why I'd want to kill them. I'd rescue them all if I could.

    I am like you I have always had very vivid dreams. Going LCHF has increased them somewhat and my ability to recall details is definitely enhanced. I have always heard that its not so much about the content of the dream but how you feel in the dream that matters the most. I must admit that I use imagery from my dreams all the time to make paintings and other art work. It's interesting to breakdown what your subconscious is working through when you dream since it does in some respect relate to your conscious self even though the imagery and symbolism may be whacked out. Lucid dreaming is a whole other experience but it is sometimes difficult to attain.

    As far as the killing cats it could be that you know you can't save them all. So it would depend on how you felt about it in the dream. There are probably better definitions out there in a dream dictionary.

    I use my dreams in art and writing as well. Lucid dreaming I have done many times but I never "attempted" to do so. It usually only happens when I get completely freaked out in my dream. I guess the fear helps me take it over and direct it down a more rational path. I've also had nightmares where I couldn't move at all. It was like something was sitting on my chest. My son has vivid dreams. We don't have television (I really hate noise and I get irritated with people crowding me to watch it so forbade television as soon as I moved out of my families home at 18.) but we do read a lot, which I'm sure influences a lot of it.

    As for the cat dreams, I always feel disturbed in my dreams..yet it's like I'm watching myself kill them while telling myself this is horrible, stop it. Maybe it is because I can't save all of them.

    My creepiest dreams however aren't about killing something or someone, it's the ones I can't interpret at all.. like standing by a barn that has a ledge, and on that ledge is a row of potted plants. In beside me is a woman who looks miserable holding a wilted potted plant. Then an angel appears and touches my green row of plants and they all wilt and die. Then he touches the woman's plant and it blossoms and the look of joy on her face is radiant. I try to ask the angel what this means, why he killed my plants, but I can't understand his language.. That has me more disturbed than a dead kitten.
  • GlassAngyl
    GlassAngyl Posts: 478 Member
    kpk54 wrote: »
    I have always been intrigued by dream interpretation though have never let it rule my daily life decisions. I don't recall ever dreaming about cats but this link is interesting.

    https://www.canidae.com/blog/2014/09/what-do-dreams-about-cats-mean/

    One can condition themselves to wake up mid-dream with the purpose of writing it down to remember it. I have done this off and on simply because I tend to not usually remember dreams but find them fascinating. The detail is amazing! Many of my dreams include water whether it is a stream, an ocean, a swimming pool. Fortunately the water has never been turbulent though that does not always signify a positive in dream interpretation. :)

    It is also fun to reflect on the colors of your dream and research color/color in dreams. Fun stuff for me.

    I've never had to condition myself to recall dreams. I have dreams that have faded, but the best ones and most disturbing ones seem to stick around. Especially the disturbing ones as I replay them over and over trying to figure out WHY..
  • Xerogs
    Xerogs Posts: 328 Member
    edited August 2017
    GlassAngyl wrote: »
    My creepiest dreams however aren't about killing something or someone, it's the ones I can't interpret at all.. like standing by a barn that has a ledge, and on that ledge is a row of potted plants. In beside me is a woman who looks miserable holding a wilted potted plant. Then an angel appears and touches my green row of plants and they all wilt and die. Then he touches the woman's plant and it blossoms and the look of joy on her face is radiant. I try to ask the angel what this means, why he killed my plants, but I can't understand his language.. That has me more disturbed than a dead kitten.

    Wow! Lots of symbolism in your dream. It would be interesting to interpret it using a dream dictionary. Just at the base of it all is, in my opinion, about life and death at a personal level and even a much broader sense of the unknown associated with both. Somethings have to die in order for others to live, it is the way of life. In essence everything is born and then someday dies but it doesn't necessarily mean that things disappear, energy is constantly being recycled. I think that on a subconscious level there is fear of the unknown no matter what we consciously might believe. You might look at events leading up to a dream like that what happened a few days before. I've had fleeting thoughts become huge narratives in my dreams which is always odd. There is also an element of yourself in everything in your dream. The woman, angel, and plants are in some way facets of yourself and your subconscious is trying to work through something important.

    I often think that the vivid dreaming is more about being able to recall your dreams and something about LCHF diet does that whether is different "brain fuel" or better sleep or combination of both and other factors. I like sleep and I like to dream so I just sit back and enjoy the ride for the most part. I want to say they dreams subside the longer you are on LCHF but I still have them time to time.

    Thanks for sharing your dreams though they are really interesting. The last one I can recall was about swimming underwater at night with very diffused yellow lighting like a full moon refracting through the surface. This was all in preparation to do a night dive with some kind of shark like creatures and as a group we all had to swim a certain way as to not disturb the surface of the water or create large amounts of bubbles or the creatures would see us and attack. I just remember holding my breath while swimming in this odd stroke while looking up and seeing that yellowish light refracting through the water. I never felt like I was out of breath and I wasn't afraid it was just an exercise before doing something much more dangerous and exciting. I had an idea of what the creatures looked like but they weren't there. Right as I hit a lucid state and started thinking to myself "what is going on?" I woke up.

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