Sleep and low carb success

Tsoufla
Tsoufla Posts: 30 Member
edited November 21 in Social Groups
I have low carbed on and off for many years, but in the last few years I have yo yo'd more than I like to admit... I'm beginning to realize that stress and the resulting sleep disturbances have caused increased sugar cravings as well as increased hunger.... I find that it has triggered binges, due to pure fatigue. When I sleep better, I find I have better control.
I'm looking to see how i may improve sleep quality, in order to be able to stay focussed and centred.
Has anyone else experienced this?

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  • tcunbeliever
    tcunbeliever Posts: 8,219 Member
    I use a topical magnesium right before bed, it cleared up all my too-stressed-to-sleep issues.
  • swezeytba
    swezeytba Posts: 624 Member
    I don't use topical magnesium, but I did start supplementing with magnesium after starting keto and I feel my sleep has definitely improved.
  • Catawampous
    Catawampous Posts: 447 Member
    Have you been checked for sleep apnea? I didnt think I had it but my doc had me go for a sleep study anyway. Got the shock of my life when it came back that I did have it. From the time my machine was delivered my life has changed! Including easy adherence to the ketogenic lifestyle :)
  • Tsoufla
    Tsoufla Posts: 30 Member
    Thanks for your replies everyone. I haven't ever supplemented with magnesium, but I will definitely look into it... Especially since it is a mineral rather than a prescription sleep aid.
    Catawompous- no I haven't ever been tested for sleep apnea... I don't think that I snore... unless I have a cold, and I'm sleeping on my back.... but you never know. I will ask my dr about it....
    Sometimes i am not asleep until well after 1:00 am and I wake up before the sun comes up in the morning... Then I feel just tired and ravenous.
  • anubis609
    anubis609 Posts: 3,966 Member
    Get your sleep schedule fixed. I will throw another vote in to get the 3 main electrolytes: sodium, potassium, and magnesium in line as well. Having elevated levels of cortisol increases stress, and stress increases corisol. It's a negative feedback cycle that you don't want which will manifest in things like disturbed sleep, increased hunger, lethargy/fatigue, general malaise, etc...

    It sounds like woo, but circadian rhythm does play a large part in maintaining a healthy metabolism. So all the usual recommendations of staying away from electronic/blue light at night 1-2 hours before bed, sleeping at least 7+ hours, eat with the sun from larger to smaller if you still follow a 3 meal/day schedule.
  • Tsoufla
    Tsoufla Posts: 30 Member
    Thank you Ladipoet for a very thoughtful and informative response.
    I have heard of EFT before but haven't ever investigated it. I will try to learn about it, and thank you for providing the link.
    What I can say is that this last binge episode was a complete out of body experience.... I don't know what came over me, even as I was doing it, I knew it was so wrong.... I wasn't tasting the food or feeling any satisfaction from eating it.... it was like i felt I had to do it.... It really scared me...
    I do firmly believe that our psychology is more than half the battle.... it's being able to get there.
    So thank you again for sharing your experience.
  • kpk54
    kpk54 Posts: 4,474 Member
    Adding: Stephan Guyenet is the author of The Hungry Brain (mentioned above). Several of his interviews and videos are on youtube if someone wants to watch them.

    One other thing that has helped me is taking my focus off weight and placing my focus on health and nutrition. Food is not entertainment. Food is not comfort. Food is for hunger. Food is medicine. Food is nutrition.
  • ladipoet
    ladipoet Posts: 4,180 Member
    Tsoufla wrote: »
    Thank you Ladipoet for a very thoughtful and informative response.
    I have heard of EFT before but haven't ever investigated it. I will try to learn about it, and thank you for providing the link.
    What I can say is that this last binge episode was a complete out of body experience.... I don't know what came over me, even as I was doing it, I knew it was so wrong.... I wasn't tasting the food or feeling any satisfaction from eating it.... it was like i felt I had to do it.... It really scared me...
    I do firmly believe that our psychology is more than half the battle.... it's being able to get there.
    So thank you again for sharing your experience.

    No problem @Tsoufla! And you are so totally preaching to the choir on this one. I absolutely understand what you are going through because I've been there myself!
  • kpk54
    kpk54 Posts: 4,474 Member
    @Tsoufla, I found the old thread that has the video. The video is on page 2 of the thread but there are some interesting ideas throughout so I chose to link the whole thing.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10524837/i-need-tips-on-how-to-deal-with-cravings/p2

    Hope it helps someone.
  • MyriiStorm
    MyriiStorm Posts: 609 Member
    Wow, there's a lot of great info on this thread! I just want to highlight the cortisol issue some more. My doctor had me do a cortisol test, which showed higher than normal levels at night. I also had a lot of trouble falling asleep and staying asleep.

    I started taking phosphorylated serine (brand name Seriphos), a non-prescription supplement designed to lower cortisol, and within two days was falling asleep easier and waking fewer times in the middle of the night. It may be worth asking your doctor about.
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    MyriiStorm wrote: »
    Wow, there's a lot of great info on this thread! I just want to highlight the cortisol issue some more. My doctor had me do a cortisol test, which showed higher than normal levels at night. I also had a lot of trouble falling asleep and staying asleep.

    I started taking phosphorylated serine (brand name Seriphos), a non-prescription supplement designed to lower cortisol, and within two days was falling asleep easier and waking fewer times in the middle of the night. It may be worth asking your doctor about.

    Wow! What all did the cortisol test involve?
  • Tsoufla
    Tsoufla Posts: 30 Member
    @kpk54 -wow thank you for sharing your story.
    Thank you also for taking the time to write a very thoughtful and informative post and then finding the link to the videos for me. That is so helpful. I am definitely going to sit down and listen to them... as well as look into the book.
    Enjoy your weekend!
  • Tsoufla
    Tsoufla Posts: 30 Member
    @MyriiStorm - thank you for your response. I have been meaning to get a hormone panel done... I've been putting it off actually....I think it may be time.
    I have had cortisol tested before and it seems to be in an ok range..who knows though, it's been 2 years since i had it done. Glad you were able to find some help for your sleep issues.
  • MyriiStorm
    MyriiStorm Posts: 609 Member
    RalfLott wrote: »
    MyriiStorm wrote: »
    Wow, there's a lot of great info on this thread! I just want to highlight the cortisol issue some more. My doctor had me do a cortisol test, which showed higher than normal levels at night. I also had a lot of trouble falling asleep and staying asleep.

    I started taking phosphorylated serine (brand name Seriphos), a non-prescription supplement designed to lower cortisol, and within two days was falling asleep easier and waking fewer times in the middle of the night. It may be worth asking your doctor about.

    Wow! What all did the cortisol test involve?

    It's a saliva test. It just involved drooling into vials at four specified times during the day.
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