š„The Magic Pillš„
inkedupgurl
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Has anyone seen this documentary on Netflix? I thought it was fantasticā¦ I love the medical and no nonsense approach towards living the ketogenic lifestyle. I was in awe, I loved seeing the transformations in the test subjects, especially the kids at the endā¦!! What the?
Iād love to know what others thought, if you have not seen it, put it in your queue, it is the best hour and 29 minutes that I have spent this weekā¦
(sorry if there are already threads or discussions about this documentary, I am new to this group and searched for other discussions before creating this post, but did not see any)
Iād love to know what others thought, if you have not seen it, put it in your queue, it is the best hour and 29 minutes that I have spent this weekā¦
(sorry if there are already threads or discussions about this documentary, I am new to this group and searched for other discussions before creating this post, but did not see any)
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It is there somewhere! I just can't remember where but it doesn't matter as we often bring things back up again or ask the same questions!1
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chinatowninchina wrote: Ā»It is there somewhere! I just can't remember where but it doesn't matter as we often bring things back up again or ask the same questions!
So true :-) I find myself reading the exact same discussions I read a few days ago, but on purpose. The older I get, my absorption rate for information is buffering at best. Repeat. Repeat.
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I haven't seen it, but you've made me curious. I'll have to check it out. Thanks.1
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I enjoyed it. It had a nice message: food is important to health.
I do wish they had not included the lady who cured herself of cancer. I know keto can be used in some situations as a complimentary treatment, but I wouldn't want many to think it is a great solo treatment for all cancer. KWIM?4 -
I enjoyed it too.
Last night I watched 'The Perfect Human Diet' on Amazon (UK) which was quite interesting too...more Paleo orientated but advocating the benefits of low carb.1 -
A fun evening is watching Supersize Me and then watching Fathead.
I fell for the first and then watched the second show. LOL0 -
I enjoyed it. It had a nice message: food is important to health.
I do wish they had not included the lady who cured herself of cancer. I know keto can be used in some situations as a complimentary treatment, but I wouldn't want many to think it is a great solo treatment for all cancer. KWIM?
I totally agree, and that's why people think keto is some kind of crazy diet and that people who follow it are all about the "woo."3 -
I enjoyed it. It had a nice message: food is important to health.
I do wish they had not included the lady who cured herself of cancer. I know keto can be used in some situations as a complimentary treatment, but I wouldn't want many to think it is a great solo treatment for all cancer. KWIM?
I agree. I'm a stage 3 breast cancer survivor and I can't imagine not doing chemo, surgery, radiation. I too love all things holistic and non-MD/Rx related so I don't just run to the doctor to get on a Rx when I have a runny nose. However I do feel it's irresponsible to promote nutrition only to "cure" cancer.
I didn't find keto until after I went through all my treatments and now in remission. My oncologist is thrilled I'm in ketosis because of the decreased risk of a re-occurrence.4 -
Running_and_Coffee wrote: Ā»I enjoyed it. It had a nice message: food is important to health.
I do wish they had not included the lady who cured herself of cancer. I know keto can be used in some situations as a complimentary treatment, but I wouldn't want many to think it is a great solo treatment for all cancer. KWIM?
I totally agree, and that's why people think keto is some kind of crazy diet and that people who follow it are all about the "woo."
Agreed though I will say it is those on keto who create and spread the woo. I've read some mighty silly things on the Internet that individuals say one "has to do" to be effective.
I personally think in some of the forums there are enough people who have been successful and chosen keto longer term, that the "lifers" are able to lead by example...without the "woo". I remember reading once someone writing one MUST use only pink Himalayan salt for electrolyte balancing on keto because table salt does NOT work. No. Just no. That's just silly.
I watched the movie a while ago. I thought it was beautiful how it helped the children. I don't doubt it in the least. I also don't doubt that just getting them off their junk food diet would have been a positive change with some positive results.1 -
I enjoyed it. It had a nice message: food is important to health.
I do wish they had not included the lady who cured herself of cancer. I know keto can be used in some situations as a complimentary treatment, but I wouldn't want many to think it is a great solo treatment for all cancer. KWIM?
I agree. I'm a stage 3 breast cancer survivor and I can't imagine not doing chemo, surgery, radiation. I too love all things holistic and non-MD/Rx related so I don't just run to the doctor to get on a Rx when I have a runny nose. However I do feel it's irresponsible to promote nutrition only to "cure" cancer.
I didn't find keto until after I went through all my treatments and now in remission. My oncologist is thrilled I'm in ketosis because of the decreased risk of a re-occurrence.
Congratulations to you!
. I too have heard keto is quite good for reducing the likelihood of a reoccurrence for breast cancer.
Did you turn to keto for that reason? Or was it for other reasons? Please ignore me if its personal. 0 -
Running_and_Coffee wrote: Ā»I enjoyed it. It had a nice message: food is important to health.
I do wish they had not included the lady who cured herself of cancer. I know keto can be used in some situations as a complimentary treatment, but I wouldn't want many to think it is a great solo treatment for all cancer. KWIM?
I totally agree, and that's why people think keto is some kind of crazy diet and that people who follow it are all about the "woo."
Agreed though I will say it is those on keto who create and spread the woo. I've read some mighty silly things on the Internet that individuals say one "has to do" to be effective.
I personally think in some of the forums there are enough people who have been successful and chosen keto longer term, that the "lifers" are able to lead by example...without the "woo". I remember reading once someone writing one MUST use only pink Himalayan salt for electrolyte balancing on keto because table salt does NOT work. No. Just no. That's just silly.
I watched the movie a while ago. I thought it was beautiful how it helped the children. I don't doubt it in the least. I also don't doubt that just getting them off their junk food diet would have been a positive change with some positive results.[\b]
I agree. If the kids had been on more of a whole foods diet, I doubt the improvements would have been quite as dramatic.0 -
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Just surfing around on Netflix and found the Magic Pill and started watching. It was like a light bulb went on. I researched for about four days and started LCHF3
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I enjoyed it. It had a nice message: food is important to health.
I do wish they had not included the lady who cured herself of cancer. I know keto can be used in some situations as a complimentary treatment, but I wouldn't want many to think it is a great solo treatment for all cancer. KWIM?
I agree. I'm a stage 3 breast cancer survivor and I can't imagine not doing chemo, surgery, radiation. I too love all things holistic and non-MD/Rx related so I don't just run to the doctor to get on a Rx when I have a runny nose. However I do feel it's irresponsible to promote nutrition only to "cure" cancer.
I didn't find keto until after I went through all my treatments and now in remission. My oncologist is thrilled I'm in ketosis because of the decreased risk of a re-occurrence.
Just joined this group, thank you for this encouragement. Just finishing up treatment for Stage III BC. Looking forward to learning and getting healthier!4 -
I too would not forgo treatment and rely on nutrition alone for treatment of cancer. However if I can do both it would probably be worth checking out. I am really intrigued at the possibility that cancer needs glucose to aid in replicating and keto may deny that.1
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I too would not forgo treatment and rely on nutrition alone for treatment of cancer. However if I can do both it would probably be worth checking out. I am really intrigued at the possibility that cancer needs glucose to aid in replicating and keto may deny that.
I am a 2 year survivor and I would still do what I did...surgery, radiation, DRUGS to keep it away and keto! I know the traditional medicine got rid of the tumor but the keto will help keep it from returning!3 -
We watched it last night and I LOVED it! I didn't get the junky/conspiracy vibe I usually feel when I've watched documentaries like that in the past. I agreed with it and everything made perfect/clear sense. For the cancer, time will tell. I'm basically a ticking time bomb as all the women on my maternal side have had breast and a few other forms. But hopefully keto can give me an edge they didn't have
I wouldn't really on the diet alone though for a treatment. I have endometriosis and have tried other treatments and am now hoping keto can help a bit, otherwise I'll be pushing surgery 2 -
Even if a connection between cancer risk reduction and Keto may not be made for years, if at all. At 56 I don't have time to wait it out. I have found numerous benefits to Keto in my research and the only negative found is that in some individuals Cholesterol may rise instead of drop. Well I can test for that. The benefits greatly outweigh the risks and one benefit is the possible denying cancer fuel to grow.2
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Even if a connection between cancer risk reduction and Keto may not be made for years, if at all. At 56 I don't have time to wait it out. I have found numerous benefits to Keto in my research and the only negative found is that in some individuals Cholesterol may rise instead of drop. Well I can test for that. The benefits greatly outweigh the risks and one benefit is the possible denying cancer fuel to grow.
Interesting reads are Tripping Over the Truth and Cancer Outside the Box. Neat ideas.
I had minor skin cancer removed last year. It started after maybe a year of keto. I have no idea if my diet helped slow it down. Who knows. I'm guessing it didn't hurt. I do think diet can play a role in some cancers. I'm looking forward to research finding out more.
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Even if a connection between cancer risk reduction and Keto may not be made for years, if at all. At 56 I don't have time to wait it out. I have found numerous benefits to Keto in my research and the only negative found is that in some individuals Cholesterol may rise instead of drop. Well I can test for that. The benefits greatly outweigh the risks and one benefit is the possible denying cancer fuel to grow.
Interesting reads are Tripping Over the Truth and Cancer Outside the Box. Neat ideas.
I had minor skin cancer removed last year. It started after maybe a year of keto. I have no idea if my diet helped slow it down. Who knows. I'm guessing it didn't hurt. I do think diet can play a role in some cancers. I'm looking forward to research finding out more.
Not scientific at all but my neighbor who has done lots of his own research on diet told me this. "Cancer is in all of us and we don't know what the trigger is that makes it start multiplying. In order to grow it needs sugars and without those sugars (carbs) we give our body a greater chance to attack the cancer cells." Even if it isn't quantifiable at this point it sounds logical. This is why I am making a Keto lifestyle my diet. I don't feel that this is a single magic bullet either which is why I am reducing weight and increasing exercise/ fitness. All together these things I do should help and likely can't hurt so I am changing what I can and hoping for the best.
I will need to check out those titles, Thanks!1 -
Yall beat me to it. You have to watch it knowing that it has some bias. The cancer part is what the "anti-keto" people will and do use to debunk it. Those of us that are doing it, want it to work and believe that it does. I'm more curious what the long term effects are. That's why I seek out and pay attention to the "lifers" (those that have been doing it for years now). The quick weight loss benefits are enough that I'll do it anyway. If it turns out that, over time, Keto'ers are growing a limb out of their chest - I may stop.
I've always said this feels like I've been let in on a great secret that not a lot of people want to hear. Everybody is killing themselves at the gym to loose a bit of the sugar and wheat that they eat all day. I'll sit at home on the couch watching diet documentaries and eat my pork rinds and cream cheese.5 -
SteveP999Tx wrote: Ā»Yall beat me to it. You have to watch it knowing that it has some bias. The cancer part is what the "anti-keto" people will and do use to debunk it. Those of us that are doing it, want it to work and believe that it does. I'm more curious what the long term effects are. That's why I seek out and pay attention to the "lifers" (those that have been doing it for years now). The quick weight loss benefits are enough that I'll do it anyway. If it turns out that, over time, Keto'ers are growing a limb out of their chest - I may stop.
I've always said this feels like I've been let in on a great secret that not a lot of people want to hear. Everybody is killing themselves at the gym to loose a bit of the sugar and wheat that they eat all day. I'll sit at home on the couch watching diet documentaries and eat my pork rinds and cream cheese.
I agree that the cancer benefit is the easiest and most common debunking item followed by high fat will kill you. I am okay and happy with what I have researched and can follow my own path. (checking for chest limb)1 -
I watched it twice yesterday. Once for myself and the second time to prove to my partner that keto was a healthy way to eat. He is sort of keto (cause I cook) but not really. And one can't be sort of anyway. He is low carb. But he isn't feeling well lately and blames our diet.2
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up his salt intake? (not to get rid of him just to reduce any keto flu!!!)2
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I loved it too! My essential oil mentors had always told me āYes, Sara, eat the butter.ā Especially when I was pregnant and craved it and licked the packages while at work š they always told me your brain is made of fat and NEEDS fat. I knew that as I had studied anatomy and physiology. I used butter and coconut oil in moderation. Then I saw the documentary. Those kids!! It was amazing.
So now when I make my coffee or anything else with coconut oil or butter, I make my kids lick the spoon! They love it and I love supporting their growing brains.1 -
I will say too though, that I was nervous after watching it. The cost of ALL organic and ONLY grass fed had me nervous.
I started anyway, regular store bought meat because thatās what is in the budget at the moment. I already have lost 15-18 lbs depending on the day and my brain fog had gotten so much better. I have switched to organic when possible and will continue to switch as the budget allows.0 -
RockinOilyMomma wrote: Ā»I will say too though, that I was nervous after watching it. The cost of ALL organic and ONLY grass fed had me nervous.
I started anyway, regular store bought meat because thatās what is in the budget at the moment. I already have lost 15-18 lbs depending on the day and my brain fog had gotten so much better. I have switched to organic when possible and will continue to switch as the budget allows.
I get grass feed when I can but I can eat a good steak wherever it has been eating. I will also get organic when convenient and not overpriced. What works for me and this predates Keto is nothing in a box and rarely in a can. The only processed food I was getting (other than snack clusters) was bread. I have also switched to uncured bacon too.1 -
yep, it is expensive. I just keep hoping the more we buy (when we can) the more folks will be encouraged to return the cows to the land and a decent life; then we won't have to cringe when we eat them. All part of a ecosystem. Current practice is part of a factory system ignoring all life.1
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I think I had less sticker shock at the price of keto. I was already eating gluten free, and when a small loaf of bread is normally around $7, and a smal l bag of noodles is $5-6, dropping those processed carbs for meat and veggies seemed to have no difference in my grocery bill at all. LOL1
