Years of keto, No more.
Dessa1384
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I've done keto for 7 years. Only swaying a few times but always able to drop the weight that I put on. Ive enjoyed keto and I've been exhausted by it. But it was my lifestyle I kept trying to maintain. Well recently, over a year ago, I develop the keto rash every time my body started ketosis. It took a few trial and errors to final realize the root cause was my body in ketosis. I'm not sure what changed in my body, maybe getting older. Either way, I knew I couldn't continue with being constantly in ketosis.
Well I've stumbled upon a new lifestyle and I'm really enjoying it. I keep it lower carb and feel great and I'm enjoying the results. Its the blue zone lifestyle. If anyone has tried it, I'd love more MFP friends.
Well I've stumbled upon a new lifestyle and I'm really enjoying it. I keep it lower carb and feel great and I'm enjoying the results. Its the blue zone lifestyle. If anyone has tried it, I'd love more MFP friends.
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@Dessa1384 There are many ways one can eat. I still do not do eat food containing added sugars and or any form of any grain but as I learn about how to care for my gut microbiome I am not keto since I am into higher carb foods but they are not processed foods but I do eat a lot of nuts, fruit and use some honey. Best of success as you learn the best way as time goes forward.4
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I'm a fan. I find it pretty hard to dispute the longevity of those in The Blue Zones and feel it is clear that it is not just one facet (diet) of their life (style) but rather at least 9 facets that contribute to their longevity. It is, in fact...a lifestyle.
I likely 1st learned of The Blue Zones reading in the main forums but my interest gained momentum after listening to to Dan Buettner on a Rich Roll podcast. I've read 2 (maybe 4) of his books and perused The Blue Zones Kitchen. I subscribe to bluezones.com but don't read every word of every article. My food intake today has a plant-slant though I still eat a little of the animal derived stuff.
I've been influenced.
Hara hachi bu, Ikigui and Moai. Eat to 80% full. Find/have a purpose. Engage with friends/peers who have common interests.
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Oh, how funny!! I just now typed "moai" into a google search to make sure I spelled it correctly and and this article/ad popped up. Maybe I have have also been influenced by the fact I am 66, retired and look at life a little differently post heart attack (2018)....
https://www.newretirement.com/retirement/okinawan-secrets-to-a-long-life-1-ikigai-2-moai-3-hara-hachi-bu-huh/3 -
Oh, how funny!! I just now typed "moai" into a google search to make sure I spelled it correctly and and this article/ad popped up. Maybe I have have also been influenced by the fact I am 66, retired and look at life a little differently post heart attack (2018)....
https://www.newretirement.com/retirement/okinawan-secrets-to-a-long-life-1-ikigai-2-moai-3-hara-hachi-bu-huh/
I am starting to think like the article Is Sunscreen the New Margarine in some ways. So many health problems in the USA seems to have worsened over the past 40 years as sunscreens have become Religion like in usage.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »Oh, how funny!! I just now typed "moai" into a google search to make sure I spelled it correctly and and this article/ad popped up. Maybe I have have also been influenced by the fact I am 66, retired and look at life a little differently post heart attack (2018)....
https://www.newretirement.com/retirement/okinawan-secrets-to-a-long-life-1-ikigai-2-moai-3-hara-hachi-bu-huh/
I am starting to think like the article Is Sunscreen the New Margarine in some ways. So many health problems in the USA seems to have worsened over the past 40 years as sunscreens have become Religion like in usage.
Thanks for pointing out the article " Is Sunscreen the New Margarine" within the other article. I hadn't read it and tend to concur with much of it. While sunscreen should not be ignored, there is benefit to sunshine and value to a shirt and brimmed hat
. With a strong dose of common sense.
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I've done keto for 7 years. Only swaying a few times but always able to drop the weight that I put on. Ive enjoyed keto and I've been exhausted by it. But it was my lifestyle I kept trying to maintain. Well recently, over a year ago, I develop the keto rash every time my body started ketosis. It took a few trial and errors to final realize the root cause was my body in ketosis. I'm not sure what changed in my body, maybe getting older. Either way, I knew I couldn't continue with being constantly in ketosis.
Well I've stumbled upon a new lifestyle and I'm really enjoying it. I keep it lower carb and feel great and I'm enjoying the results. Its the blue zone lifestyle. If anyone has tried it, I'd love more MFP friends.
Glad you've found a transition you can work with. I eat "slow" carb, heavily influenced by Mediterranean style eating. Do what works.3 -
What is the blue zone lifestyle? That's a new one on me! Suggestions of where I can get info. on it.1
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trekkie123 wrote: »What is the blue zone lifestyle? That's a new one on me! Suggestions of where I can get info. on it.
Maybe @kpk54 might have some info. If you get a min, could you give her some links? I can then add the resources to our link library.
@trekkie123 I'd wait a minute. Don't let someone sell you something. This kind of info can often be found online for free so hang in there for a response. Kpk54, or @Sabine_Stroehm might be able to hook us up with where to find some.
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trekkie123 wrote: »What is the blue zone lifestyle? That's a new one on me! Suggestions of where I can get info. on it.
https://www.bluezones.com/2018/08/moai-this-tradition-is-why-okinawan-people-live-longer-better/
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Thank you for the heads up!!!0
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There's no need to buy anything. I don't know if "they" even sell anything except a concept and Buettner's books. LOL. Well, I guess they have meal planners and other type things but no....I wouldn't rush out to purchase anything. 98% of my time in the library is spent in the cooking and health section and most decent libraries will have copies of all of Buettner's books. Also as mentioned there is a wealth of information on the internet.
bluezones.com
I recall that Dan Buettner was a photographer for National Geographic and in his travels became interested in the commonalities of those living to be 100. There were 5 geographic areas in particular that have a "disproportionately high" number of people living (versus just existing) into their 100s and he set out to discover the common grounds.
Take a look at this:
https://www.bluezones.com/2016/11/power-9/.
What one eats is just a part of it. I've always been interested in the research of Valter Longo, Ron Rosedale and now David Sinclair so no surprise the concepts of The Blue Zones would have appeal to me. In regards to how "low carb" it is, that might be a stretch for many but unless one is having pancakes with syrup for breakfast, pasta for lunch and chili with beans with a slice of cake and ice cream for dinner, one can keep carbs low.
I think I also became interested give every year I host a dinner for friends and the year I hosted Italian my overall cooking for the year leading up to the dinner was very Mediterranean/Greek/Italian.
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I just listened to the Peak Human podcast with Mary Ruddick, who is living in Greece in one of the blue zones. She says they eat a lot more animal foods than the Blue Zones gurus say. pt1: https://www.peak-human.com/post/mary-ruddick-cnc-sherlock-holmes-of-health-on-reversing-disease-debunking-blue-zones-more
pt2 (starts out with blue zones) https://www.peak-human.com/post/mary-ruddick-cnc-part-2-gut-microbiome-finding-a-healing-diet-mental-illness-plant-vs-animal
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I definitely only do research. I haven't bought anything. There are tons of podcasts and recipes on pinterest.2
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There's no need to buy anything. I don't know if "they" even sell anything except a concept and Buettner's books. LOL. Well, I guess they have meal planners and other type things but no....I wouldn't rush out to purchase anything. 98% of my time in the library is spent in the cooking and health section and most decent libraries will have copies of all of Buettner's books. Also as mentioned there is a wealth of information on the internet.
bluezones.com
I recall that Dan Buettner was a photographer for National Geographic and in his travels became interested in the commonalities of those living to be 100. There were 5 geographic areas in particular that have a "disproportionately high" number of people living (versus just existing) into their 100s and he set out to discover the common grounds.
Take a look at this:
https://www.bluezones.com/2016/11/power-9/.
What one eats is just a part of it. I've always been interested in the research of Valter Longo, Ron Rosedale and now David Sinclair so no surprise the concepts of The Blue Zones would have appeal to me. In regards to how "low carb" it is, that might be a stretch for many but unless one is having pancakes with syrup for breakfast, pasta for lunch and chili with beans with a slice of cake and ice cream for dinner, one can keep carbs low.
I think I also became interested give every year I host a dinner for friends and the year I hosted Italian my overall cooking for the year leading up to the dinner was very Mediterranean/Greek/Italian.
@kpk54 it is so true what one eats is just a part of the road to health. I have read Valter Longo book and David Sinclair's Lifespan shipped a week ago by snail mail so it should show up this week.
I did not start out to do Keto but was just trying to avoid starting on Enbrel injections to manage my AS (Ankylosing Spondylitis) pain on the demanding hunch that cutting out sugar and all forms of all grains would make Enbrel not a requirement.
Nonstop reading, pod casts, MFP lead me to learn most of my immune system comes from my gut microbiome so for the last year or so I have keep eating the same food but just added natural plant based foods that are to help me grow the best microbiome possible.
Those carb sources did lessen my pain control until I added boron and doubled down on magnesium. I did not know diabetes type 2, heart disease, high blood pressure, mind health diseases all can stem from a long term Magnesium deficiency.
Once I got focused on how to eat and live instead of how to not die prematurely things went better in my case.4 -
https://academia.edu/14151562/%CE%B2_hydroxybutyrate_much_more_than_a_metabolite?email_work_card=reading-history
Those who have been here the past 6 years know I am still working to understand how Keto saved me from myself. While I did Keto for pain management one side effect was weight loss as well as all health needs reversing to normal test wise.
For few years my mind has understood Keto is not MAGIC so slowing science is showing me how Keto can be life saving for some of us. The summary above was a helpful stepping stone in my path to better understanding of how Keto works.
NAD+ (nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide) is a key to a longer lifespan of health per David S. Sinclair PhD. I just finished his book Lifespan (2019). While it is not a Keto book per say several of the keys to a healthier life span that he drives home are key features of a Keto Eating Life Style.
I still eat the same Keto food choices but after learning that about 75% of our immune system chemicals come from the trillions non human microbes living inside our food track I am now eating well over 50 grams of Carbs daily. A gallon of Pomegranate juice per week for example will keep one out of Ketosis.
I know MFP has been helpful and I am glad I started my path to health recovery pre Covid-19.4 -
OP,
I flip between keto (ckd) and fairly high carb. I run CKD when i cut weight and high carb during maintenance. I do this while focusing on whole foods. On keto, its veggies, lean meats, low GI fruits, fish, nuts/seeds, dairy and some oils.
On high carb its more oats, more fruit, high fiber whole grains, lean meats, fish, nuts/seeds, dairy and starches.
Honestly, there is no perfect way to eat. And regardless of all the theoretical benefits from one diet over another, the thing that isn't talked about is genetics. People who have family's that live long, tend to also live long and tend to be mote resilient. Of course a healthy diet and exercise can help that. But its not really going to be the difference between high and low fat.
And in the end, finding foods you enjoy and that helps you sustain a good body weight, is going to be key. If you find Mediterranean, blue zones or whatever fits your preferences, then by all means. And for me, its incorporating things from various diets that helps me the most.4
