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I missed the 1st coupled of days posting as I am dealing with covid - it has been 3 weeks now and still showing positive. But as of today I am back to eating (or trying to) as I have not really been able to eat since covid arrived in our house - but am making myself have 3 meals, even very small ones, but getting in enough nutrients to keep my diabetic readings where they should be.
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@Caroline_slowandsteady
Some options to consider as you track carefully & observe how myopic feel this month:
1. You could always lose your final 10lbs over the next 5 years by decreasing your daily calories by 20 cals (or increasing your exercise…by 20 cals per day)
Or in 2 years, 47 calories a day…
2. You could redefine “delicious foods” over time. Then everything gets much easier.
And I want it to be as easy as possible to maintain. Treats really aren’t a treat, I sadly had to realize. Now, 6 years later, a treat for me are a) raw pecans with cinnamon decaf tea & a pink lady apple. Peanut only PB with no palm oils or salt on a slice of while wheat toast. Homemade roasted sliced potatoes with 1T olive oil for the whole recipe/pan some garlic powder rosemary. Delicious blueberries. I’m Not being goody two shoes here. If you told me 6 years ago I’d feel this way, I would have laughed. But as I put self kindness & my health first, I gradually shifted from “delicious treats & restaurant foods” to foods that truly energize my body.
Self Kindness. There were stumbles…I learned from them.
3. Many folks who have maintained for awhile do eventually shift enough to get leaner. It’s not a race (as you known.)
4. Work on resistance exercise to build your muscle mass and/or not lose it in the future as quickly. You will burn more calories & look slimmer - even at the same weight as you are today.
5. Ask your doctor what he/she suggests. That’s what I did. He told me not to go lower than 150 (22.8 BMI) without checking with him first. My other Dr was the one who said anything under 24.9 BMI. She’s going off research.
Just thoughts to mull over lightly…
Congratulations on decreasing your weight & becoming healthier❣️4 -
@Caroline_slowandsteady
Yep.... congratulations at achieving a healthy weight! Your BMI and height/waist ratio both suggest that losing more weight would not really lower your risk for diseases or increase your lifespan or healthspan.2 -
@donna25trinity I have a realistic range (48 – 51 kg) which I try to keep within and it does require constant attention. Do you use a weight tracking app? I use Libra (for Android phones) and it helps to smooth out the spikes. This time last year (when my son was dying) I lost weight and got too skinny, down below 48 kg for a few weeks (my BMI was still a healthy 20). Once the funeral was over and I started getting back to my usual routines – and going on a few short holiday breaks – my weight came up to a 49/50 kg. But by the end of the summer – and more holidays – it was over 51 kg (with a couple of spikes at 52). November was quiet, as was December until Christmas Day so I slowly eased back to 50 kg. I’m now just under 49 and happy with that. I have a short break planned later in March which will be 4 nights of dinner, bed and breakfast so will probably creep up closer to 50 kg again.4
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My weight has been at a standstill for several months. I guess it's nice to be maintaining but I have been trying to lose. My clothes feel looser but the scale hasn't moved in a while. Can I ask some advice on how to break through a plateau? And is clothes getting looser but the scale not budging really even a plateau?
I've been whole foods plant based vegan for about 3 years. It's the main reason I've been able to lose weight. I cook almost all my meals so I can control the ingredients and oil. For exercise I've mostly just been walking around 4k steps a day on average.
A few months ago I began exercising, and while the scale didn't move at all, my clothes began to fit looser. The suggested calorie restriction from mfp didn't really work out for me. Due to medication issues I need to eat a bit more than that to be ok. What do you all suggest I do to kick start losing weight again?
I live in north China and there's not much of an English speaking weight loss community here, so I really value this group.6 -
@daciasil21 If your clothes fit looser I wouldn´t call it a true plateau, but I understand your frustration of the scale not moving. Depending on what your health issues are, I would look at the glycemic index and insulin. Am I mixing you up with someone else or am I remembering correctly that you are on a medication that affects insulin? In most circumstances when insulin is going too low it is related to insulin being unstable, spiking and then going too low to compensate. During the peaks of high insulin it is making your body store fat. Although you don´t want your insulin to dip to really low levels, having not high levels for as many hours as possible allows you body to burn off more fat. Vegans usually have to have quite a few carbs to get their protein, but being mindful of the ¨slow¨¨ or ¨complex¨ carbs might help. Being in China I would imagine there are a lot of people around you eating white rice, but even brown rice is pretty high on the glycemic index.1
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@MadisonMolly2017, @ideas2 thank you for the permission and congratulations. I feel kind of awed by it.
@makattack220 I listened to the podcast and - yeah - sounds like me. Lurching from snack to snack. It's funny she said "snacking didn't really exist until 1980." Guess what year I was born? 1980! Been snacking all my life.
Her solution seemed to be give up flour and sugar ... which I am not ready to do. Partly influenced by seeing my mom go on the Atkins diet in the mid 1990s, which she has "been on" ever since - except that she cheats frequently. It's resulted in really disordered eating for her. And if she doesn't eat snacks she is SUPER cranky!
But I am going to listen to some more of that podcast because I do really like her - even though I am not at all a busy doctor! My sister is a busy doctor but she's never been overweight a day in her life.
Anyway, going to continue with my mission this month of collecting data, and then at the end of the month I'll decide what to do with it.
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@daciasil21A few months ago I began exercising, and while the scale didn't move at all, my clothes began to fit looser. The suggested calorie restriction from mfp didn't really work out for me. Due to medication issues I need to eat a bit more than that to be ok. What do you all suggest I do to kick start losing weight again?
It is very difficult to comment without really understanding why you have to eat more with medication. DO you have to eat more calories? The trick is the balance. You will continue to maintain unless you use more calories (NEAT and Direct exercise) or consume less. So sadly perhaps until your health issues stabilize you need to continue to maintain. Keep monitoring tho because I think you are probably either losing very very slowly or gaining very very slowly. None of us stay static completely. As for the clothes fitting better. That's a good sign. As long as they aren't a pair of jeans you have been wearing for several weeks. LOL. Those tend to stretch and fool us into thinking they fit better,3 -
@daciasil21
“I’m having some health issue so I might have to partially drop out. I still want to be accountable for exercise and the quality of the food but I think I need to back off from controlling the quantity to a degree. The doctor says I need to eat more.
I lost 112 pounds so far but I had hoped to lose more weight and go faster.”
“My weight has been at a standstill for several months.”
It’s difficult to comment without a bit more information – would you feel happy to share your stats? Height, weight, goal weight etc. You have lost a lot of weight over the three years that you have been eating a vegan diet so congratulations on that!
Did the doctor who asked you to eat more explain why? Do you need to concentrate on any particular food or macro? I totally respect your decision to eat vegan but you do need to pay attention to nutrition – vegan diets can be short on protein and some vitamins and minerals.
Are you vegan for ethical reasons or just to lose weight?
Lastly, the commonest reason for lost losing weight when you believe you are eating within your calorie goal is that you are underestimating your calories in or overestimating your calories out. I would say that 4,000 steps a day is pretty inactive – almost sedentary. If you are tracking your steps with a body worn device that is a minimum activity level. If you are tracking steps on your phone – and therefore not tracking all your pottering around at home steps – 4,000 steps is a 30 minute walk?
Do you weigh your food accurately? Read the labels, check the database entries.2 -
@daciasil21 My internet or MyFitnessPal must not have been working right when I wrote you about the glycemic index and insulin. I tried to edit my post because most of the places that I wrote ¨insulin¨ I really meant ¨blood sugar.¨ We can track our blood sugar easy enough but don´t know exactly what our insulin itself is doing- how much insulin is being put out to get those levels of blood sugar.
Instead of try to completely re-write it now, just know my suggestion is to be mindful of eating the more complex, slower to digest carbs that are lower on the glycemic index if you need to level out the roller coaster of blood sugar. Those spikes and dips of blood sugar make us hungrier and those points of too much insulin tell your body to grow and store fat, instead of burn fat.0 -
@daciasil21 Sorry about your health issues.
👍🏻 Well done on losing 112 lbs. Losing weight more slowly is a good idea. A slower rate can be more sustainable. And I agree with one of the others who said that improving health and fitness was more important in the long run.
Don’t give up on yourself. Consistently logging is a good habit to work on, and you can set your own goals.1 -
LazyBlondeChef wrote: »@donna25trinity It's pretty normal to fluctuate within a few lbs (or a kg or or two). I think it's just something we have to accept. Unless you eat exactly the same food every day and do the exact same exercise everyday it is logical that it will happen. That's why we need to have a maintenance range. If I ever get past my current plateau I will have a 5lb range (110-115) striving to stay at 112 on average.
U r so right @LazyBlondeChef , it's def an acceptance thing isn't it! I hve given myself 3 months at a deficit and that will come to an end on 23rd of March at that point I am going to not keep pushing to get lower and instead i will switch to maintaince, be kind to myself learn to accept and hve a maintaince range as u mentioned. Thanks for your reply Xo3 -
lesdarts180 wrote: »@donna25trinity I have a realistic range (48 – 51 kg) which I try to keep within and it does require constant attention. Do you use a weight tracking app? I use Libra (for Android phones) and it helps to smooth out the spikes. This time last year (when my son was dying) I lost weight and got too skinny, down below 48 kg for a few weeks (my BMI was still a healthy 20). Once the funeral was over and I started getting back to my usual routines – and going on a few short holiday breaks – my weight came up to a 49/50 kg. But by the end of the summer – and more holidays – it was over 51 kg (with a couple of spikes at 52). November was quiet, as was December until Christmas Day so I slowly eased back to 50 kg. I’m now just under 49 and happy with that. I have a short break planned later in March which will be 4 nights of dinner, bed and breakfast so will probably creep up closer to 50 kg again.
This is great @lesdart180 thanks for the detail very helpful and like u I think I need to be prepared that maintaining will be something that will also require constant attention. I hve heard on a maintainers podcast I listen to that maintaining weight can be in some cases harder than the weight loss part. Yep I use libra app to look at my average and trends and that has been really good to hve that data. It seems like u hve a really good balance with living ur life, enjoying ur food and eating in moderation. I did my 1st week of banking my calories for the w/e it made hving that yummy treat on Sat and Sunday really enjoyable. Xo3 -
SummerSkier wrote: »@donna25trinity I think over time you will find what works best for you. The scale drove me crazy so I actually stopped weighing a few years ago. How my clothes fit, tracking my food and how I felt became more important than a random # on the scale. Maintenance will never be static either so what works for several months may need to change. And going back to a small deficit for a few weeks is sometimes required. Changing exercise or macros or supplements can also effect the #. It's sort of why I just picked a # for my TDEE and stick to it. And not to say I never weigh myself but last time I was in the Drs offices (endo and primary) it had been 2 years and they both were astonished my weight was almost exactly the same over the pandemic. To me that was a big win because in my past they might have said the same thing but they did not know that I might have had to work like crazy for several weeks before the visit to get back to that #. Whereas last year I was just normal ongoing maintenance.
Thats really awesome that u did that @summerskier glad I am not the only 1 that feels llike throwing the scale out. He he! I hve recently started taking measuements and trying to focus on those numbers more so than the scale because I am feeling really good in my clothes so I probably need to not allow the number on the scale to mess with my head as much as it does! Lol! I also take pics of my body and altho I am similar in weight the pics of my body looks so different, I am def more slimmer and toned looking in my recent pics. The Drs visit these days for u are def a huge win u must feel so free not doing all the stressing u once did only to get the same results. That's so amazing! Well done! Thanks for your reply good to know this is all part of the process. Xo4 -
Monitoring my weight daily showed up the daily fluctuations, and allowed me to stop stressing over them.
I usethe Happy Scale app. It was very comforting to see the downward trend over time. These days I have been practically flatlining on it. 😝
Now that I’m in maintenance, I have an upper weight range, and the weight fluctuations are almost irrelevant. If I edge towards my upper limit I know exactly what to do to alleviate it.3 -
@makattack220 I listened to some more episodes of the podcast and then because of that read a bit of the obesity code. It has me really thinking about how much of my hunger is just the experience of dipping from "storage mode" into "fat burning mode" which is maybe a bit unpleasant but actually good for me? That feeling triggers a bit of a panic because when I was pregnant getting there would lead to vomiting that was very difficult to stop. But that was many years ago and I did think I was over it, but I think that shaky feeling is still hard for me to deal with and think I will survive.
I am not yet ready to give up sugar and grain or to fast ... but thinking more seriously about those things than I have before. Also thinking about maybe snacking less or stopping my bedtime treat...3 -
I also wanted to write somewhere that tracking has gotten easier at the 1 year mark, because there are many recipes that we only cook once a year. Now all of those are already in MFP and so I hardly ever need to input a recipe!6
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I'm going to try some new tracking methods I have been considering. I think this might be just the sort of things to help kick things in gear as things start to warm up around here and I get more active. How these translate to UAC are:
Exercise: Average between 800 - 1000 calories burned per day for all activities. Some days more, some days less. As long as there is still a weekly average in that range even on a rest day with no activity then it's still a ✅ (example: 6000 calories burned over the prior 7 days is 857, which is in range).
Calories: Eat at maintenance for my weight (+/- 100 calories) with no adjustments for exercise (unless my average calorie burn exceeds 1000/day, at which point eat back the number of calories over 1000).
Tracking: No change here. Track all the foodz (and drinks if they have calories).
This may sound complicated, but there are widgets in my Garmin dashboard that will show me the exercise numbers at a glance, and of course the MFP home page shows me my calories. So it's going to be as easy as looking at a graph day to day.
Now for the harder part. Doing it for the rest of the month (and beyond if I like the results).8 -
Re eating sugar
Sugar is like a drug for me. I watch my friends and relatives have a little here and there and I wish I could do that.
If I eat a little, within a couple weeks I've got donuts hidden in my desk, I'm having an ice cream cone everyday and there's a box of chocolates under the seat of my car. And I can't wait for my husband to go to bed so I can either sneak out to buy, or so I can raid my stash. It's ridiculous. Seriously, none of that is an exaggeration. It's an addiction for me. And when I'm on sugar, I'm an emotional wreck, I'm unorganized, forgetful, mean, spend too much money and cry a lot. If I stay away from it, life works pretty well even if things get hard. Probably 20 years ago I came across the book, Potatoes Not Prozac. The book seemed to be all about me. If your interested check out radiantrecovery.com. There's a whole community there.
I'm glad to be here. Stayed on track today because of this group. 2 days of success.7 -
TerriRichardson112 wrote: »Monitoring my weight daily showed up the daily fluctuations, and allowed me to stop stressing over them.
I usethe Happy Scale app. It was very comforting to see the downward trend over time. These days I have been practically flatlining on it. 😝
Now that I’m in maintenance, I have an upper weight range, and the weight fluctuations are almost irrelevant. If I edge towards my upper limit I know exactly what to do to alleviate it.
@TerriRichardson112
This! ALL of it!
And, I can predict what the scale will do now. I bet you can, too! It gives me a sense of control I haven’t had before.4