to go primal, or not
Orvett
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I recently started MFP and have lost about 6 pounds. I really want to go primal with the exception of my whey shakes and other supplements. It seems difficult, expensive, and time consuming. Any advice?
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I recently started MFP and have lost about 6 pounds. I really want to go primal with the exception of my whey shakes and other supplements. It seems difficult, expensive, and time consuming. Any advice?
If you want to buy WalMart-quality food at WalMart prices - be satisfied with WalMart-quality health.0 -
I do want healthy food but I was curious on how people fit it into their budget.
Is primal non organic/grass fed better than still eating like a normal american?0 -
I do want healthy food but I was curious on how people fit it into their budget.
Some things are more important to do than others (organic junk food is STILL junk food, so buy the fritos and use the money on organic meat and veg), and if budget is an issue, then read up on primal/paleo websites and get an idea of which items are doable.
The important thing is: do what you can with what you have. It's more important to drop grains than buying organic veg. It's more important to drop sugar than whether you buy free-range eggs or not. The more you can do, the better - but it is still better to take 20 steps out of a hundred than none at all...Is primal non organic/grass fed better than still eating like a normal american?
There are a lot of health reasons besides weight loss that makes a primal/paleo lifestyle preferable to a SAD (standard american diet) way of eating. The problems with eating grains is passed on through animals who eat grains (prmarily excessive omega6, but other issues as well). You sometimes have to weigh your options. I'm my case, I'd rather eat non-organically raised goatsmilk cheese than organic cows cheese. Someone else may make the opposite decision.
I hope I'm being of some help.0 -
I actually don't find eating primal/paleo that much more expensive than a regular diet. Certainly the meat is a little more, but when it comes right down to it, I'm at a point in my life where I would RATHER spend my money on food that is going to make me feel good and healthy, than cheap food that makes you feel like *kitten*. I'd rather spend my money on good real food than going out with my friends to bars every weekend or anything like that.
Not saying that I've cut out nights with friends, I just cut them way back. It's more of a treat that way and it allows me to spend my money where I think it's most important. Not on cars or clothes or shoes, etc.0 -
PS. I find doing up a meal plan every week VERY helpful budget wise. That way I can see all the food available to me and make meals to make sure I use it all up before it goes bad!0
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I have been primal around 3yrs and the benefits are worth a little extra cost. Good ways to get around, if you do conventional meat, choose only lean cuts and trim excess fat. You can add good fats in other ways. Google the dirty dozen list for conventional produce to avoid. Meal plans and a few trusty recipes can help a lot. Easypaleo.com just came out with a really good ebook on how to save time and money eating this way. It doesn't have to break your bank. Also marksdailyapple.com has some good tips as well. Hope this is helpful to you0
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Thanks everyone for the help I think I'll start off slow I've read it's ok to buy frozen veggies/fruit and that could help out. In the long run I'd like to get a stand alone freezer and buy half a steer and get on a csa list.0
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Hey! I've been primal for ~11 months now, and have found that it does take a little bit of planning like having to pull meat out of the freezer and put it in the fridge so it thaws a day ahead of cooking, or making sure my fridge is well-stocked with lots of veggies. I have actually found that my food budge has decreased because I am 1-eating from home, 2-don't splurge on the packaged crap I used to get, 3- not buying really expensive whole-grain breads that are supposedly better for you, 4-buy meat in bulk when it is on sale and freeze it, and 5-calorically, I am eating less because I'm fuller. In the old days I was bottomless pit, but eating primal satisfies my hunger and I don't have to eat ALL the time.
A tip... the crockpot is your best friend.
It does take a little extra work to plan ahead and cook for yourself, but honestly, it is worth it when I think of the time I get to spend being healthy instead of laying in bed because I'm too sick. Try it for 30 days and see how you like it.0 -
Everyone else is making great points in answering. I feel costwise it's about even. If I'm by myself and on an egg kick it's actually much, much cheaper. With my daughter around it's about the same. I used to hate taking the time to cook but most things I cook don't take more time than getting ready, getting in the car, driving to the fastfood place, waiting for my order and then the drive home after eating. I'm eating more food with fewer calories overall, learning to enjoy "new" foods and flavors.
I've been in crunch mode with my work and while I did pretty good with Thanksgiving I've kind of punted otherwise. That includes some "fast" food. And I'm feeling the negative results. Just restocked my fridge and freezer as I know eating better actually saves me time (and discomfort!) and money overall.
When I can't afford the omega3 free range eggs I would still rather buy regular eggs than bread or pasta from a health standpoint. And same with meat. I can get two meals for my daughter and I from a $6-8 lb of grassfed ground beef, not bad compared to $8+ for 4 In and Out burgers, right? When the budget is tighter we do a few meals of conventional meat and chicken. Chicken is the one place I've had a hard time affording the healthier versions but we do breast meat since the bad stuff concentrates more in the dark meat. I just try to balance it all out. It is important to me to make sure I have coconut oil and pastured butter to cook with and I make those a priority. I add one or the other (or both!) to almost everything I cook ; ).
Our 99cent store often has organic greens. And great portobello and crimini mushrooms. Not sure if they all do that or if it's because we're very close to the suppliers here in SoCal. I shop at a combination of the 99cent store, Trader Joe's, Fresh and Easy, Whole Foods and the regular grocery store. I know where I get the best values (in terms of price and health) for which items and stock up when there are sales.
It takes a little more thinking and planning time but that's offset by less time in the "ladies room", ha and less stomach upset (amongst other issues) that was starting to really take up my time and mental energy!0 -
I used to take 3 blood pressure medications I no longer need, and that saves me 120 dollars a month.
I came out ahead on budget.0 -
OP please use the good, better, best logic.
Most food today is crap.
Good food is unprocessed meat, vegetables, anything without a label.
Better is organic and grass fed.
Best is local, organic and grass fed.
Do the best with what you can. Almost everyone can achieve "good"0 -
OP please use the good, better, best logic.
Most food today is crap.
Good food is unprocessed meat, vegetables, anything without a label.
Better is organic and grass fed.
Best is local, organic and grass fed.
Do the best with what you can. Almost everyone can achieve "good"
Oh I love this! What a great way to put it.0 -
OP please use the good, better, best logic.
Most food today is crap.
Good food is unprocessed meat, vegetables, anything without a label.
Better is organic and grass fed.
Best is local, organic and grass fed.
Do the best with what you can. Almost everyone can achieve "good"
I was thinking along these lines. Buy the best value (quality to price ratio) you can get in your budget. Not everyone has access to the same quality markets. The more cooking and preparation involved, the more you control the contents. Prepare food in bulk and eat on it at your convenience.0 -
http://balancedbites.com/2010/10/priorities-for-eating-paleo-on-a-budget.html
Here's an article I found today. She also has a PDF link on this page that opens to a pretty poster with guidelines following the good, better, best idea.0 -
The important thing is: do what you can with what you have. It's more important to drop grains than buying organic veg. It's more important to drop sugar than whether you buy free-range eggs or not. The more you can do, the better - but it is still better to take 20 steps out of a hundred than none at all...
Well said.0 -
I do want healthy food but I was curious on how people fit it into their budget.
Is primal non organic/grass fed better than still eating like a normal american?
I try and think of it like this: What I'm spending now I won't be spending on doctor's visits and medicines later.
Check out Mark's Daily Apple. You can search the site and find articles on this stuff. Grass-fed, organic is best but if you can't afford it then buy high-quality or premium conventional meats but buy lean and add fats. It's really not that expensive. You just have to shop more often because you are buying fresh food.
I agree with knocking out grains and sugar. This is most important.0 -
Thanks everyone for the help I think I'll start off slow I've read it's ok to buy frozen veggies/fruit and that could help out. In the long run I'd like to get a stand alone freezer and buy half a steer and get on a csa list.
From what I have read frozen veggies and fruits are usually flash frozen on site. So the foods have a chance to ripen before being shipped out. Frozen veggies/fruits will beat fresh grocery store produce (nutrient-wise) hands down.0 -
From what I have read frozen veggies and fruits are usually flash frozen on site. So the foods have a chance to ripen before being shipped out. Frozen veggies/fruits will beat fresh grocery store produce (nutrient-wise) hands down.
Frozen vegetables generally are flash-frozen soon after picking. This does allow it to retain most of their nutrients, but frozen veg will still lose a certain amount of nutrients over a long period, so it is best to buy frozen as a convenience - but still use them relatively quickly rather than leaving them in the freezer for a year.
The nutrition of fresh produce, however, will vary - based mostly on how long it's been since they were picked. Supermarket produce is usually kept in cold storage (near-freezing) and can be maintained as 'fresh' for weeks before showing up on the produce aisle. While they are still 'fresh' in terms of color and crispness, there still has been enzymatic changes, a conversion of sugars to starches, and a slight lessening of nutrients.
The best place for fresh produce is at a Farmers Market. Since the farmer usually does not have a cold storage locker, his fresh produce is truly fresh - picked just a day or two before selling.
So - it pays to pay attention when buying your vegetables. The time of year changes your selection choices; where it comes from (obviously, produce from Peru has to be kept longer than produce from the next county) and what's in season. Even canned, though inferior, has it's place. Come January, I'd rather used canned tomatoes from my summer garden than fresh-grown Mexican tomatoes, just from an environmental standpoint.
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