Carbs/Fat/Protein

KBGirts
KBGirts Posts: 882 Member
edited November 9 in Social Groups
I'm sure this has already been discussed somewhere.... Sorry.

What percentages of my daily intake should be carbs/fat/protein? How do you guys have this set up? I know right now I am shooting for 50-60g of carbs per day.... I am not sure what my fat and protein should be.

Thanks!!

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  • monkeydharma
    monkeydharma Posts: 599 Member
    I run my carbs between 50-100/day, so I set my carbs at 25% (98g). The other 75% I made 45% protein and 35% fat for no other reason than I'm not a super active guy and too much fat will go to waist.

    The main thing is to determine it based on your lifestyle. If you are a cardio type of person, then you need a higher level of fat for energy. If you're a weightlifter type, then protein is a little more important. If you're a sofa spud like me, then you need to balance the two and restrict calories.
  • KBGirts
    KBGirts Posts: 882 Member
    Ok, thanks! That was helpful!
  • _Amy_Budd
    _Amy_Budd Posts: 378 Member
    Actually, fat should be set higher than protein. I have my carbs at 15%, protein at 30% and fat at 55%. Keep the fat source clean and healthy, but fat doesn't make you fat. Grains, sugar, and things that provoke a large insulin response are the things that make you fat.

    Amy
  • chammich
    chammich Posts: 104 Member
    I think the Primal guide is 70/20/10 Fat/Protein/Carbs but I keep mine at 60/25/15 for now.
  • monkeydharma
    monkeydharma Posts: 599 Member
    Actually, fat should be set higher than protein. I have my carbs at 15%, protein at 30% and fat at 55%. Keep the fat source clean and healthy, but fat doesn't make you fat. Grains, sugar, and things that provoke a large insulin response are the things that make you fat.

    Amy
    I'll have to somewhat disagree with you Amy...while the body is more proactive about getting carbs out of the bloodstream by either burning them or converting them to fat and storing them (and conversely more lethargic about hanging on to ingested fat) - if you are eating 4000 cals and only burning 2000, you'll eventually put on weight, no matter what your percentages are.

    I'll stand by what I said. Mark Sisson says carbs should be in the 50-100g range for weight loss. That's what I set my percentage to (25% = 98g). I balance the remaining 75% fat and protein. If I ever get off my duff and start working out, I'll adjust my percentages accordingly. :)
  • Anathama
    Anathama Posts: 82 Member
    Since I've got a lot of weight to loose, I'm trying to keep my percentages at 10% Carbs, 30% Protein, and 60% fat. But I must admit that it has been very hard to get that much fat into my diet.

    I cut and paste my numbers from MFP into excel, so I can run formulas on what my actual percentages are on a daily and weekly basis. (BTW, I really with MFP had better reporting features.)

    Last week my averages worked out to 16.85% Carbs, 35.61% fat, and 47.54% protein.

    To weigh in on the to much fat discussion, from my (limited) understanding, one of the benefits of dramatically limiting carbs is that your body switches from burning carbs as a primary fuel source, to fat as a primary fuel source. I don't think I explained that very well, but heres a quote (a very long one, sorry) from Gary Taube's "Good Calories, Bad Calories", Pages 349 and 350.


    "Pennington proposed that a metabolic defect is what causes obesity in humans. The adipose tissue amasses fat calories in a normal manner after meals, but it doesn’t release those calories fast enough, for whatever reason, to satisfy the needs of the cells between meals.

    By hypothesizing the existence of such a defect, Pennington was able to explain the entire spectrum of observations about obesity in humans and animals simply by applying the same law of energy conservation that other obesity researchers had misinterpreted. The law applies to the fat tissue, Pennington noted, just as it does to the entire human body. If energy goes into the fat tissue faster than it comes out, the energy stored in the fat tissue has to increase. Any metabolic phenomenon that slows down the release of fat from the fat tissue—that retards the “energy out” variable of the equation—will have this effect, as long as the rate at which fat enters the adipose tissue (the energy in) remains unchanged, or at least does not decrease by an equal or greater amount. Fat calories accumulating in the adipose tissue wouldn’t be available to the cells for fuel. We would have to eat more to compensate, or expend less energy, or both. We’d be hungrier or more lethargic than individuals without such a defect.

    Pennington suggested that as the adipose tissue accumulates fat its expansion will increase the rate at which fat calories are released back into the bloodstream (just as inflating a balloon will increase the air pressure inside the balloon and the rate at which air is expelled out of the balloon if the air is allowed to escape), and this could eventually compensate for the initial defect itself. We will continue to accumulate fat—and so continue to be in positive energy balance—until we reach a new equilibrium and the flow of fat calories out of the adipose tissue once again matches the flow of calories in. At this point, Pennington said, “the size of the adipose deposits, though larger than formerly, remains constant: the weight curve strikes a plateau, and the food intake is, again, balanced to the caloric output.”

    By Pennington’s logic obesity is simply the body’s way of compensating for a defect in the storage and metabolism of fat. The compensation, he said, occurs homeostatically, without any conscious intervention. It works by a negative feedback loop. By expanding with fat, the adipose tissue “provides for a more effective release of fat for the energy needs of the body.” Meanwhile, the conditions at the cellular level remain constant; the cells and tissues continue to function normally, and they do so even if we have to become obese to make this happen.

    This notion of obesity as a compensatory expansion of the fat tissue came as a revelation to Pennington: “It dawned on me with such clarity that I felt stupid for not having seen it before.” By working through the further consequences of this compensatory process, Pennington said, all the seemingly contradictory findings in the field suddenly fit together “like clockwork.”

    This defect in fat metabolism would explain the sedentary behavior typically associated with obesity, and why all of us, fat and lean, will become easily fatigued when we restrict calories for any length of time. Rather than drawing on the fat stores for more energy, the body would compensate by expending less energy. Any attempt to create a negative energy balance, even by exercise, would be expected to have the same effect."
  • _Amy_Budd
    _Amy_Budd Posts: 378 Member
    Actually, fat should be set higher than protein. I have my carbs at 15%, protein at 30% and fat at 55%. Keep the fat source clean and healthy, but fat doesn't make you fat. Grains, sugar, and things that provoke a large insulin response are the things that make you fat.

    Amy
    I'll have to somewhat disagree with you Amy...while the body is more proactive about getting carbs out of the bloodstream by either burning them or converting them to fat and storing them (and conversely more lethargic about hanging on to ingested fat) - if you are eating 4000 cals and only burning 2000, you'll eventually put on weight, no matter what your percentages are.

    I'll stand by what I said. Mark Sisson says carbs should be in the 50-100g range for weight loss. That's what I set my percentage to (25% = 98g). I balance the remaining 75% fat and protein. If I ever get off my duff and start working out, I'll adjust my percentages accordingly. :)

    I should qualify - I do calorie count, and keep my carbs below 50g every day, and do both quite strictly (and happily so). Plus I work out often. So in my case, I keep a solid amount of protein (at least 30%) and that leaves me 55% of my daily calories for fat. For reference, I eat under 1,400 calories per day as a base, and generally take that up to between 1,500 - 1,700 on workout days.

    Love hearing everyone's perspectives and experiences with this!

    :)
    Amy
  • BrakemanSlova
    BrakemanSlova Posts: 54 Member
    I do 60% fat, 20% protein and 20% carbs which is 93 grams, 70 grams and 70 grams. I should up the protein a little and I usually do.
  • I've been doing: 65% FAT, 20% PROTEIN, and 15% CARB. But, because of the nature of the Primal way, it fluctuates, and usually it's lower carbs and higher protein.
  • Anathama
    Anathama Posts: 82 Member
    Hey all.

    I'm really curious how to get more fat into my diet, as I seem to only be around 35-40% fat.

    How do you all get so much fat into your diet?

    Thanks!
  • _Amy_Budd
    _Amy_Budd Posts: 378 Member
    Hey all.

    I'm really curious how to get more fat into my diet, as I seem to only be around 35-40% fat.

    How do you all get so much fat into your diet?

    Thanks!

    Cook with generous amounts of coconut oil and butter, melt butter on your veggies, have some macadamia nuts (but watch out - they're addictive and very high calorie), bacon & eggs...
  • Zeromilediet
    Zeromilediet Posts: 787 Member
    I think there's some individual flexibility here because the people on this site have all kinds of genetic backgrounds. Encourage you to experiment with your own body to see what works for you. Really low carb doesn't work for me, but I've noticed it does for others, and still others have a higher fat intake. For me, the kind of fat is important and have lots of fish (salmon for brekkie most mornings, along with CLO with butter oil), rarely flax oil and olive oil only for salad dressing. Use rendered fats, ghee, or coconut oil for cooking.
  • Zeromilediet
    Zeromilediet Posts: 787 Member
    Hey all.

    I'm really curious how to get more fat into my diet, as I seem to only be around 35-40% fat.

    How do you all get so much fat into your diet?

    Thanks!

    Bacon for breakfast or in salads (use fat in dressing--google spinach salad with bacon dressing)
    Fatty fish like salmon (I buy slabs of smoked salmon and cut into chunks)
    Shrimp for snacks
    Smoothies with coconut milk
    Avocado has fat--guacamole, chocomole pudding
    Cook generously with quality fats
    Put ghee or coconut oil on all vegetables to aid absorption of fat soluable vitamins
    Eat eggs!
    Liver is loaded with fat ... all livers; if you get pasture raised chicken livers, make a nice pate to dip celery or veg sticks into
    Just a start ...
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