Stage 3

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  • bluiz13
    bluiz13 Posts: 3,550 Member
    hey all, i started stage 3 last night at the Y and had to finish my last plank and the body matrix at home cause i didnt get to the Y early enough to get it all done...the 105sec rest between sets really truly does suck and i have got to plan better and get to the Y by 840 if i want to finish workout A each wednesday night before they close at 10 - i typically do about a mile on the elliptical to warm up and then jump right into my lifting....anyway, just curious, i know we all have different times and we are all in different places but how did everyone do on their first body matrix????? let me just say HOLY *kitten*......i did it in my play room with my hubby timing me and i had to rest in between quite a bit....my form was not great on the first round for sure but i think i did better with my body positioning on the 2nd round...i think my times were 3:25 and then 4:15??? is that "Good"??? how did you guys do your first time???

    also the Dumbbell single arm overhead squat was very awkward...i couldnt keep my arm straight over my head...i used a 5 over and a 10 under....the Dumbbell single - leg romanian deadlift was very hard to keep my balance...better on #2 and 3 for sure....

    denise
  • kcfaber
    kcfaber Posts: 123 Member
    Hi Denise-
    I am with you about the awkwardness of the single arm overhead squat thing, but now that I have done it three times I think it is getting a little easier. Honestly I haven't timed the body matrix thing but those times sound great to me. The only ones I do time are the planks and the prone cobra because I am desperate for the time to be up! Exciting about your half marathon plans. Hope you have a great race!
  • JennC831
    JennC831 Posts: 628 Member
    I started Stage 3 chart A on Wednesday and loved it!! It kicked my butt... I didn't time the body matrix I just made sure that I did both sets and tried to get through it as quick as possible while still keeping form...

    Today I start Stage 3 chart B... Wish me luck!!
  • kcfaber
    kcfaber Posts: 123 Member
    One more workout 3B to go then it's on to Stage 4. woohoo!
  • jarrettd
    jarrettd Posts: 872 Member
    hey all, i started stage 3 last night at the Y and had to finish my last plank and the body matrix at home cause i didnt get to the Y early enough to get it all done...the 105sec rest between sets really truly does suck and i have got to plan better and get to the Y by 840 if i want to finish workout A each wednesday night before they close at 10 - i typically do about a mile on the elliptical to warm up and then jump right into my lifting....anyway, just curious, i know we all have different times and we are all in different places but how did everyone do on their first body matrix????? let me just say HOLY *kitten*......i did it in my play room with my hubby timing me and i had to rest in between quite a bit....my form was not great on the first round for sure but i think i did better with my body positioning on the 2nd round...i think my times were 3:25 and then 4:15??? is that "Good"??? how did you guys do your first time???

    also the Dumbbell single arm overhead squat was very awkward...i couldnt keep my arm straight over my head...i used a 5 over and a 10 under....the Dumbbell single - leg romanian deadlift was very hard to keep my balance...better on #2 and 3 for sure....

    denise

    Let me second that "HOLY *kitten*" on the matrix!! My times were 5:41 and 5:13. I think I was faster on the second go-round cause I felt like if I didn't hurry up and get it in, I was going to lay down and not get up for a while!

    I had the same trouble with the single arm overhead squat...same weights, too. My overhead arm wants to bend and go forward, no matter how hard I try to keep it straight. I had the same trouble when I did squats with the lift on the 30DS...not sure what's to be done about it. If you find out a trick for it, let me know, eh?

    And thanks, all, for the responses about starting C25K and doing NR. I'm going to try it, and listen to my body. Hubs is against someone "my age" taking up running (okay, I get it, he is concerned for my health, but dammit, you just don't say that *kitten* to a woman!). I can't even articulate WHY I want to do it...but I feel like it would be a huge confidence booster, and would put the final touch on my decision to quit smoking.

    Congrats, kcfaber! We'll be right behind ya! Stop back by and let us know how you're doing.
  • Yanicka1
    Yanicka1 Posts: 4,564 Member

    also the Dumbbell single arm overhead squat was very awkward...i couldnt keep my arm straight over my head...i used a 5 over and a 10 under....the Dumbbell single - leg romanian deadlift was very hard to keep my balance...better on #2 and 3 for sure....

    denise

    Dumbbell single arm overhead squat, I actually hurt myself trying to do that....I was off lifting for 1 week because of that move. For me it was really akward
  • bluiz13
    bluiz13 Posts: 3,550 Member
    i did workout 3B saturday for the first time and i felt it pretty much right away lol....i feel it even more today and it probably doesnt help that i ran 10.25 miles yesterday :) good thing i dont lift again until wednesday night.....

    i liked workout B except i still hate the lateral flexions....i think i'm going to skip back to just regular bicycles cause i do not feel the move during or after i complete it....i also dont like the swiss ball crunches - i used a 15lb kettle bell on my chest and i dont feel the pull in my core when i am doing the crunch like i do on the floor doing regular crunches...not sure what i am doing wrong but i think i'm moving back to the floor to do my crunches in the future....

    the ytwl was FUN - lol, not, i used 5lbs and think i will try moving up a bit next saturday....i skipped prone cobra cause i forgot about it i guess....i just dont like that move lol and would rather do WEIGHTED exercises instead of that type of stretching move....

    i have to say the 105 sec rest period sucks *kitten*....i walked around the gym, got myself set up on the next exercise, did some slam balls, but seriously i feel like i'm pushing myself with the weights so hard and then bam, i'm just standing around lol....

    anyway, i also tried the assisted pullup/chinup machine for the first time....one of my fitness goals is to be able to do just ONE unassisted pullup - i dont care if it takes me forever to get there, i will get there....i did 5 wide grip pullups on 110lbs and then i did 10 narrow chip ups at 110lbs...i'll be adding this to my workout routine on my weight days and hopefully, eventually i'll get to the UNASSISTED pullup with no weight.....

    looking forward to lifting again workout 3A on wednesday....

    denise
  • agthorn
    agthorn Posts: 1,844 Member
    I just finished Stage 2 so I'll be chatting here in about a week or so! Looking forward to new exercises, though you gals have already made me a little nervous about the YTWL and body weight matrix, haha :smile:
  • JennC831
    JennC831 Posts: 628 Member
    I like this stage.. It's challenging... I haven't been timing the body matrix for chart A, I just try to make sure I get through it as quickly as I can while keeping form.. Kicks my butt!!! LOL..

    I haven't really lost any weight, in fact I have gained some weight.. But I know I have lost inches... My clothes fit better and I feel better in general.. I'm going to keep pressing forward and not let the scale ruin or upset how I'm feeling.. Easier said than done, but I'm going to keep focused...
  • mjawesome
    mjawesome Posts: 57 Member
    OMG I didn't see the part that said "grab light dumbells" and used 20 lbs...its 2 days later and my legs would beat me senseless if they could move.
  • agthorn
    agthorn Posts: 1,844 Member
    i also dont like the swiss ball crunches - i used a 15lb kettle bell on my chest and i dont feel the pull in my core when i am doing the crunch like i do on the floor doing regular crunches...not sure what i am doing wrong but i think i'm moving back to the floor to do my crunches in the future....
    Hold the kettleball with both hands and stretch your arms out straight by your ears, and I guarantee you'll feel it. I was up to like a 30lb kettleball on my chest in stage 1, and still only felt something on the last couple crunches. I started doing them with arms overhead in stage 2, and by the end of the stage I was only up to 8lbs.
  • bluiz13
    bluiz13 Posts: 3,550 Member
    thanks for the suggestion....so you are saying lay with my back/butt on the swiss ball and hold the kettle bell straight over my head and do the crunch???
    i also dont like the swiss ball crunches - i used a 15lb kettle bell on my chest and i dont feel the pull in my core when i am doing the crunch like i do on the floor doing regular crunches...not sure what i am doing wrong but i think i'm moving back to the floor to do my crunches in the future....
    Hold the kettleball with both hands and stretch your arms out straight by your ears, and I guarantee you'll feel it. I was up to like a 30lb kettleball on my chest in stage 1, and still only felt something on the last couple crunches. I started doing them with arms overhead in stage 2, and by the end of the stage I was only up to 8lbs.
  • agthorn
    agthorn Posts: 1,844 Member
    Yes, exactly. Having the weight farther away from the "fulcrum" (your butt/back on the ball) significantly increases the difficulty.
  • aregensb
    aregensb Posts: 239 Member
    Can I just say, I love doing dumbbell snatches and weighted back extensions? They are definitely my favorite exercises from this stage.
  • jarrettd
    jarrettd Posts: 872 Member
    Bwahahaha! Just LOVE busting my *kitten* right in front of hubs!

    I do the back extensions on the ball, with my heels wedged under the leg-developer pegs on my bench. There is a hook that slides down to hold the pegs in place for stationary work. I guess it wasn't completely engaged...I was at the top of the extension, holding for few seconds, when suddenly...gravity worked. Yep, *kitten* over tea-kettle!

    Hubs happened to be taking a drink of coffee at that exact moment. He's okay, and I don't think the carpet stained...
  • agthorn
    agthorn Posts: 1,844 Member
    Did my first 3A workout yesterday! LOVE the dumbbell snatch and the bench press - I did 25lb dumbbells for both of those exercises and might be able to go higher next week. 90s planks were killer but I survived (music helps!) The one-leg romanian deadlift was just awkward (15lb dumbbells).

    The bodyweight matrix killed me :ohwell: I got through the first set of regular squats and lunges, and was thinking "Well this isn't so bad..." And then I got to the jump squats (I accidentally switched the order of the jump squats and jump lunges) and OMG burning legs. I could only do about 2-3 at a time before I'd have to pause for a second or two. My TOTAL time including the 2x rest in the middle was 15:04...plenty of room for improvement.
  • jarrettd
    jarrettd Posts: 872 Member
    Did my first 3A workout yesterday! LOVE the dumbbell snatch and the bench press - I did 25lb dumbbells for both of those exercises and might be able to go higher next week. 90s planks were killer but I survived (music helps!) The one-leg romanian deadlift was just awkward (15lb dumbbells).

    The bodyweight matrix killed me :ohwell: I got through the first set of regular squats and lunges, and was thinking "Well this isn't so bad..." And then I got to the jump squats (I accidentally switched the order of the jump squats and jump lunges) and OMG burning legs. I could only do about 2-3 at a time before I'd have to pause for a second or two. My TOTAL time including the 2x rest in the middle was 15:04...plenty of room for improvement.

    Kewlness! I had to order olympic dumbbell handles, so I can use my plates instead of buying more solid dumbbells. I find it funny that last autumn (before I even heard of NROLW), I wasn't able to imagine ever needing more than 15's for anything!

    On the one-leg romanian deadlift, I was having trouble with 15's. Hubs watched my form and said I was trying to go too deep. I tried stopping with the bells just below the knee instead of mid-shin and it felt much more natural. I was able to go up to 20's.

    I have a notation on my workout sheet next to Body Matrix...in large, red letters it reads: E-V-I-L!!!
  • agthorn
    agthorn Posts: 1,844 Member
    Kewlness! I had to order olympic dumbbell handles, so I can use my plates instead of buying more solid dumbbells. I find it funny that last autumn (before I even heard of NROLW), I wasn't able to imagine ever needing more than 15's for anything!

    On the one-leg romanian deadlift, I was having trouble with 15's. Hubs watched my form and said I was trying to go too deep. I tried stopping with the bells just below the knee instead of mid-shin and it felt much more natural. I was able to go up to 20's.

    I have a notation on my workout sheet next to Body Matrix...in large, red letters it reads: E-V-I-L!!!
    I believe I was going down too far as well. It does say in the book to go just below the knee, but I was going all the way to the floor. I'll try to stay higher next week.
  • Beeps2011
    Beeps2011 Posts: 12,190 Member
    Re: YTWL

    Due to my vacation-break, I won't hit this stage until mid-March, but I found this video/information, today and thought I'd post here so that I can review it for Stage 3!

    http://nicktumminello.com/2009/07/a-new-and-improved-ytwl/
  • ChristyU74
    ChristyU74 Posts: 234 Member
    I have a notation on my workout sheet next to Body Matrix...in large, red letters it reads: E-V-I-L!!!

    Wow, just finished my first workout in Stage 3. You are NOT kidding about the Body Weight Matrix! I'm not sure I'll be able to walk tomorrow! I was pretty happy with my times, I guess. Under 3 min for each set, but my legs were shaking so bad when I finished.

    I wasn't sure if I'd be able to the 90 sec planks either, but I made it through. I feel really good about this Stage. It may kick my *ss, but I guess that's what it's all about! Progress!
  • agthorn
    agthorn Posts: 1,844 Member
    Two weeks into stage 3 (I'm doing 5 weeks total, to make it fit my calendar so I don't have to take two weeks off between 3 and 4). Definitely liking the A workout better! I am in awe of how much y'all are using on some of the exercises though...my cable chop is only 15lbs! I did much better on the SLRD only going down just past my knee. I think I can move to 20s next week. My second attempt at the BWM was 13:35 total (significantly better than my first attempt). And can I just say, I am only using 5lb dumbbells on the YTWL but my arms and shoulders look totally bad@ss on the T :happy:
  • gillleeman
    gillleeman Posts: 397 Member
    Hi starting Stage 3 on Saturday and looking forward to it. REALLY concerned about the length of time it takes on each programme and cannot afford that long in the gym (garage :wink: ), think I remember reading 90 mins a workout. I showed the routine to a friend of mine who's a personal trainer/sports therapist. He told me to cut 20% off the rest periods to start with. I know its messing with the books rules, but what he explained to me made sense. He said I would actually be working harder and burning more fat as a result of that, so my rest periods will be 80 seconds. If it wasn't for the time issue I'd follow it to the rule, but I don't want to get to the stage where I'm putting off working out because of the time its taking. I want to enjoy this experience.

    Any way I'm giving it a go and see what happens :ohwell:
  • bluiz13
    bluiz13 Posts: 3,550 Member
    i had 3 workouts left in stage 3 back in february and got sidetracked with finishing up with my 1/2 marathon training and then resting after the race and then just not getting my *kitten* back to weights...i'm thinking i'm going to start stage 3 over again from the beginning since it has been soooo long since i lifted since 2/15.....grrrrr, i hate going backwards but it's better than giving up i guess....
    denise
  • agthorn
    agthorn Posts: 1,844 Member
    gill - I'm only using 90s rest periods, and I superset the ab exercises in the B workout (so all three exercises back-to-back and then one 90s rest before the next set). Both workouts take me about an hour and 15 minutes including the BWM or the intervals.
  • Beeps2011
    Beeps2011 Posts: 12,190 Member
    I'm choosing to do my cardio on Tues/Thurs/Sat, rather than after the strength-training M/W/F. I only have 60 minutes, so that's how I'm choosing to do it.

    I did my first Workout A in Stage 3, today.

    And, coming off of approx. 2.5 weeks of NO lifting and very little cardio....so, it wasn't a very good work-out.

    I only did 2 sets of each exercise. And, my quads actually SEIZED UP after my first set of the day!! Both quads!! Ugh. So, I stretched them and then continued on with the remainder of the exercises.

    I didn't really lift THAT heavy....just easing back into the routine of it.

    As such, I'll probably add one extra A- and one extra B- workout to the end of this Stage, to permit me to have this "ease in" week.

    Now that there isn't any "holiday" on the horizon, I don't seem to be as *worried* about how fast/hard I'm progressing, lol!!

    Tomorrow I give the "body matrix" my first shot....wish me luck!
  • gillleeman
    gillleeman Posts: 397 Member
    gill - I'm only using 90s rest periods, and I superset the ab exercises in the B workout (so all three exercises back-to-back and then one 90s rest before the next set). Both workouts take me about an hour and 15 minutes including the BWM or the intervals.
    agthorn, so pleased to hear you're doing this also. My friend said quite a bit about the book which I agreed with actually. Although I'm no expert it made sense. One thing was working over 60 mins without taking on extra carbs for fuel. He said no weight routine should be longer than 60 mins as muscle as now empty and reversing the effect i.e burn muscle for energy because glucose has gone. The other is there are two ways to burn more fat - increase weight - reduce resting time. I tried it yesterday for my last Stage 2A. I dropped resting from 75 sec to 60sec, also increased my weight. Boy oh boy I feel it this morning, a great achey feeling.

    Obviously I am no expert, neither is my friend. But his physique is to die for (for a bloke) and he's been training for over 10 years, so I'm listening and taking on board his advise.
  • Beeps2011
    Beeps2011 Posts: 12,190 Member
    I need to watch videos on form for the one-armed snatch....I wasn't doing it right, despite my trainer showing me a number of times and yacking in my ear about using "leg power" and not "arm power". The whole "explosive move" thing isn't my strong suit, that's for sure....I'm more of a slow-and-steady performer.

    Also, for the single leg deadlifts, keeping my hips square is KEY. My first set, I was (unexpectedly) twisting a little bit, trainer said. So, that's important. I have really long legs and a short torso, so I'm practically touching the floor by the time I get my legs to parallel - which is fine for me....I have long arms, too.

    I don't think I'll do 105 seconds between reps, either. I'll try and do 90, like agthorn suggested....or maybe even 75. I won't be doing my HIIT or body matrix at the end of weight-training, though....I'll save those for my "off-days".
  • agthorn
    agthorn Posts: 1,844 Member
    Did my last 3A workout today, here's my stats:

    35lb dumbbell snatch (started 25lb)
    50lb single-leg romanian deadlift (started 30lb)
    60lb barbell row (started 40lb)
    15/30lb overhead squat (started 10/20lb)
    60lb bench press (started 50lb)
    22.5lb cable chop (started 12.5lb)
    11:29 body weight matrix (started 15:04)

    Final 3B on Friday, next week off, and then on to stage 4!
  • Beeps2011
    Beeps2011 Posts: 12,190 Member
    Nicely done, agthorn!!

    I've had to postpone my weightlifting scheduled for today....my quads are still TOO sore. So, I'm just going to do some light cardio and LOTS of stretching for today's workout.

    :(
  • bluiz13
    bluiz13 Posts: 3,550 Member
    i started stage 3 again last night from the beginning since i hadnt done it in over a month (had 3sessions left)....
    welllllllllll, i feel the deadlifts in my butttttt today....holy crap will spin be a bit uncomfortable tonight :)

    it felt soooo good to be lifting weights again.....thank goodness i got myself back into this program....

    denise
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