I agree with this.
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Also for the record, I'm spending the day today relearning unix.0
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Between reading that editorial, and the responses here, I'm reminded of when I was a little girl. When I was about 8 or 9, my best friend Janet and I, both social outcasts, started a club (because clubs were ALL the rage in 1992) and as with any club, you had to like certain things, you had to possess certain things, and anyone who didn't meet all those requirements couldn't be in the club. And each week we'd get together and add to this list of things that just kept making the club so exclusive, and so special, and then six weeks later we got invited to join a larger, more prestigious club with its own lists. Looking back, those clubs, those groups, which we all bounced around in for a year or two, until they were "out of fashion", relegated to "little kids", were our juvenile way of organizing our society on our own. Imposing our own limits and caste system and social order, beyond what adults prescribed to us. Now, as an adult, I have to wonder if we as a society have devolved back into that sort of social order, where who you are and what type of person you are and where you belong are determined based on lists of things you like or dislike, items you own or despise, your opinion on sushi or tofu, etc. Or if it's truly a behavior we carry through life, and always have. And either way, if we choose to define ourselves by a list of more or less external traits, is it really so very wrong to like something, and then be part of a group, or to be part of a group and then like something? As long as you genuinely like the thing in question, it's not false advertisement.
And really, speaking as someone who loathes Battlestar Galactica, but who nevertheless lives surrounded by real life friends who love the show, do you genuinely have to "like" all the same things to be part of a social group?
And if we're talking about something more specific than a rather generic social group, it seems like you're either a geek or you're not. You can dress in whatever way you want, and it doesn't define your interests or your passions. And you can proclaim whatever you want about yourself. But if you can't back it up...well, that's not a wise idea for anyone, with any trait. But it's going to happen no matter what. And it's really difficult to fake genuine passion or knowledge.0 -
Hmm, I really hope this isn't talking about me. I liked SyFy when it was SciFi, read and reread David Eddings' Belgariad series, along with any other fantasy I could get my hands on, and shunned the teen romance novels my friends read. I'm also a numbers geek. My profession is numbers. I will happily spend hours on a spreadsheet making it just right. Do I qualify?
Hot damn - someone else who loved Begariad series! I have a group of books I read at least once a year
The Belgariad series
LOTR (yes I start with the Hobbit)
Incarnations by Piers Anthony
The Rowan - Anne Mccaffrey
Ender's Game - why i'm drawing a blank on the author I have no idea!
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Well, I watched this just now (it's Felicia Day):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFhgupR565Q
And now I'm feeling more torn about this issue. I think shunning people who may have a genuine interest in something geeky, perhaps one thing (like Skyrim Mom) and nothing else, is wrong. Or people who have a passing interest but are open to learning more. It's when you start talking about bullies and other arrogant jerks who are just faking it to fit into whatever is considered cool at the present moment that I see the issue. They can die in a fire. :P
Anyway, hope you all enjoy the vid!0 -
Growing up as an only child I was officially branded as a nerd/geek due to fact television rarely existed in my home all I had were my books, library card and my imaginary friend who I shamelessly presented to show and tell back in the 1st grade. My love for dark/witty sense humor is deep My late night conversations with my only 2 best friends consists Science, Greek Mythology, culture, stupid **** and strange ****. We have alot dumbass inside jokes we post on each others walls people I can imagine people scratching their heads like wtf. But hey! We're cooler than the other side of the pillow!0
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I'm loving the number of people with the same book collection as me :bigsmile: David Eddings must write some of the best characters ever. I managed to miss my bus stop one time while reading one of his novels
I think it's rather sad if people feel they have to fake geekery just to be part of the trend. Although that extends to anything really, if you're having to fake something just to be accepted, then there's something wrong (and yes, I'm aware that this is exceedingly easy to say but not so easy to do, particularly if you're insecure/uncertain etc) Particularly to the extent of having fake glasses!0 -
Well, I watched this just now (it's Felicia Day):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFhgupR565Q
And now I'm feeling more torn about this issue. I think shunning people who may have a genuine interest in something geeky, perhaps one thing (like Skyrim Mom) and nothing else, is wrong. Or people who have a passing interest but are open to learning more. It's when you start talking about bullies and other arrogant jerks who are just faking it to fit into whatever is considered cool at the present moment that I see the issue. They can die in a fire. :P
Anyway, hope you all enjoy the vid!
Omg, thanks for posting that!!!0 -
I said somewhat the same thing and got ripped in the general forum.0
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I said somewhat the same thing and got ripped in the general forum.
Ohhh yeah...I remember that.... 0 -
I said somewhat the same thing and got ripped in the general forum.
Wasn't it you ripping me? You didn't want to join this group because I originally called the group 'the geek squad' so you blasted me for it?0 -
I didn't blast you or maybe I did in tongue and cheek. Also...the Geek Squad here in the retail stores are terrible. The "Geek Squid" is a much better name.I said somewhat the same thing and got ripped in the general forum.
Wasn't it you ripping me? You didn't want to join this group because I originally called the group 'the geek squad' so you blasted me for it?
Normally I am a jerk to everyone. It's a gift. It is also a wonder I actually have kids.0 -
I didn't blast you or maybe I did in tongue and cheek. Also...the Geek Squad here in the retail stores are terrible. The "Geek Squid" is a much better name.I said somewhat the same thing and got ripped in the general forum.
Wasn't it you ripping me? You didn't want to join this group because I originally called the group 'the geek squad' so you blasted me for it?
Normally I am a jerk to everyone. It's a gift. It is also a wonder I actually have kids.
Yeah, the geek squid is a much better name, and I love our mascot 'Squiffy'. It's good to have you on board.
P.S I still haven't seen an episode of The Big Bang Theory yet0 -
Penny is amusing because they avoided the female/blonde stereotype of making her unintelligent and she gets highly annoyed when she doesn't understand something (which I can sympathize to when it comes to science). Compared to reality tv...it's good. Compared to Jersey Shore...it's PBS brilliant.
I didn't blast you or maybe I did in tongue and cheek. Also...the Geek Squad here in the retail stores are terrible. The "Geek Squid" is a much better name.I said somewhat the same thing and got ripped in the general forum.
Wasn't it you ripping me? You didn't want to join this group because I originally called the group 'the geek squad' so you blasted me for it?
Normally I am a jerk to everyone. It's a gift. It is also a wonder I actually have kids.
Yeah, the geek squid is a much better name, and I love our mascot 'Squiffy'. It's good to have you on board.
P.S I still haven't seen an episode of The Big Bang Theory yet0 -
I have a simple test for any girl who shows up wearing a pair of Tina Fey glasses and claiming to be a geek. I throw the word "gorram" into a sentence and watch for recognition...0
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I have a simple test for any girl who shows up wearing a pair of Tina Fey glasses and claiming to be a geek. I throw the word "gorram" into a sentence and watch for recognition...
:drinker: Well put! 0 -
See I thought I was a little bit of a nerd, but I have never seen an episode of Firefly.I have a simple test for any girl who shows up wearing a pair of Tina Fey glasses and claiming to be a geek. I throw the word "gorram" into a sentence and watch for recognition...0 -
See I thought I was a little bit of a nerd, but I have never seen an episode of Firefly.I have a simple test for any girl who shows up wearing a pair of Tina Fey glasses and claiming to be a geek. I throw the word "gorram" into a sentence and watch for recognition...
Oh but you must! You watch TBBT, but no Firefly...Does that seem right to you? (you will get the reference when you watch firefly...go now!)0 -
Yikes...but...but I am watching Xfiles from beginning to end.
See I thought I was a little bit of a nerd, but I have never seen an episode of Firefly.I have a simple test for any girl who shows up wearing a pair of Tina Fey glasses and claiming to be a geek. I throw the word "gorram" into a sentence and watch for recognition...
Oh but you must! You watch TBBT, but no Firefly...Does that seem right to you? (you will get the reference when you watch firefly...go now!)0 -
See I thought I was a little bit of a nerd, but I have never seen an episode of Firefly.
Dude... DUDE! :noway:0 -
Yikes...but...but I am watching Xfiles from beginning to end.
See I thought I was a little bit of a nerd, but I have never seen an episode of Firefly.I have a simple test for any girl who shows up wearing a pair of Tina Fey glasses and claiming to be a geek. I throw the word "gorram" into a sentence and watch for recognition...
Oh but you must! You watch TBBT, but no Firefly...Does that seem right to you? (you will get the reference when you watch firefly...go now!)
Well, okay + 10 pts for watching xfiles XD0 -
Do you think this is the same backlash as people who dislike "gamergrrls"?0
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Do you think this is the same backlash as people who dislike "gamergrrls"?
Don't think so, "gamergrrls" don't typically last long in a group of all gamers...they just can't sustain the gaming enjoyment of true girls who game (like myself). Unless they are calling themselves that, but only play f/b games... o_O0 -
Pffft...girls don't last in games because they can't play.Do you think this is the same backlash as people who dislike "gamergrrls"?
Don't think so, "gamergrrls" don't typically last long in a group of all gamers...they just can't sustain the gaming enjoyment of true girls who game (like myself). Unless they are calling themselves that, but only play f/b games... o_O
heh...mwah!0 -
Pffft...girls don't last in games because they can't play.Do you think this is the same backlash as people who dislike "gamergrrls"?
Don't think so, "gamergrrls" don't typically last long in a group of all gamers...they just can't sustain the gaming enjoyment of true girls who game (like myself). Unless they are calling themselves that, but only play f/b games... o_O
heh...mwah!
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Pffft...girls don't last in games because they can't play.Do you think this is the same backlash as people who dislike "gamergrrls"?
Don't think so, "gamergrrls" don't typically last long in a group of all gamers...they just can't sustain the gaming enjoyment of true girls who game (like myself). Unless they are calling themselves that, but only play f/b games... o_O
heh...mwah!
*drops gloves* Challenge accepted!0 -
Do you at least play xbox live...where the real gamers are?
Pffft...girls don't last in games because they can't play.Do you think this is the same backlash as people who dislike "gamergrrls"?
Don't think so, "gamergrrls" don't typically last long in a group of all gamers...they just can't sustain the gaming enjoyment of true girls who game (like myself). Unless they are calling themselves that, but only play f/b games... o_O
heh...mwah!
*drops gloves* Challenge accepted!0 -
Do you at least play xbox live...where the real gamers are?
Pffft...girls don't last in games because they can't play.Do you think this is the same backlash as people who dislike "gamergrrls"?
Don't think so, "gamergrrls" don't typically last long in a group of all gamers...they just can't sustain the gaming enjoyment of true girls who game (like myself). Unless they are calling themselves that, but only play f/b games... o_O
heh...mwah!
*drops gloves* Challenge accepted!
I own an Xbox
Was a PC gamer for the longest time, just got way too expensive to keep up with the technology...but I still play BG, NWN and HOMM3 every now and then.
Real gamers...that's a relative term isn't it?0 -
Yep...there are good players and then everyone else.<snip>
I own an Xbox Was a PC gamer for the longest time, just got way too expensive to keep up with the technology...but I still play BG, NWN and HOMM3 every now and then.
Real gamers...that's a relative term isn't it?
I just got a Asus g73jh...so I have been wondering what I should load on it.0 -
Yep...there are good players and then everyone else.<snip>
I own an Xbox Was a PC gamer for the longest time, just got way too expensive to keep up with the technology...but I still play BG, NWN and HOMM3 every now and then.
Real gamers...that's a relative term isn't it?
I just got a Asus g73jh...so I have been wondering what I should load on it.
Depends what you're in to...nice lappy btw 0 -
I feel bad for thred-jacking, but I loved Baldurs Gate. Suggestions?
Yep...there are good players and then everyone else.<snip>
I own an Xbox Was a PC gamer for the longest time, just got way too expensive to keep up with the technology...but I still play BG, NWN and HOMM3 every now and then.
Real gamers...that's a relative term isn't it?
I just got a Asus g73jh...so I have been wondering what I should load on it.
Depends what you're in to...nice lappy btw0
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