Super Fatty Here....HELP!
AquaFitQueen
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ok. So I am so lost. I've read some of the stickys....some of it makes sense, other bits of it might as well be in Chinese!
MFP had my cals set at nearly 3000 cals to lose 2lbs a week. I manually reduced this to 2000. My BMR according to MFP is 3680 set to sedentary. I also exercise 4+ times a week two and a half hours at a time earning me over 8000 calories a week. (8000 is a conservative number based on 4 times a week only)
Yesterday I ate 3065 calories which meant I ate a net of less than 1000 calories.
I feel like a total cow admitting I ate over 3000 calories, but I did burn over 2000 on exercise.
This is so confusing as I have read that super fatties can get away with eating less than our thinner counter parts.
Just looking for opinions really.
Thanks!
MFP had my cals set at nearly 3000 cals to lose 2lbs a week. I manually reduced this to 2000. My BMR according to MFP is 3680 set to sedentary. I also exercise 4+ times a week two and a half hours at a time earning me over 8000 calories a week. (8000 is a conservative number based on 4 times a week only)
Yesterday I ate 3065 calories which meant I ate a net of less than 1000 calories.
I feel like a total cow admitting I ate over 3000 calories, but I did burn over 2000 on exercise.
This is so confusing as I have read that super fatties can get away with eating less than our thinner counter parts.
Just looking for opinions really.
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I eat 2000 calories and i am under 200 pounds....you would definitely need to eat more....check out the stickies above and follow those calculations 0
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Also, if you're working out 4 days a week you are most definitely not sedentary. I would change it to moderately active.0
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I also think you should be eating more than 2000 calories.
And I think that calling yourself a "super fatty" is offensive.0 -
Not offensive to me, lol, I much prefer super fatty than super morbidly obese!!!!0
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OK, so no matter WHAT, you MUST NET your BMR every day.
I read your profile and do not know how your WLS affects how much you can eat~ are you ABLE to eat your BMR every day? Your diary is locked but mine is open and so are many others here~ take a look at what some of us are eating and compare it to yours~ see if you need to make some Macro changes.
GREAT job on the exercising!
I think your goal right now is to keep up the exercising and NET YOUR BMR each day.
And seeing you refer to yourself in such negative terms makes me sad
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Hi there, I only had a sleeve and I am nearing 2 years out and have no problem what so ever eating, lol, Will take a look at peoples diaries.
mine is locked cos I have an ED, which has been stable for months and months but all it would take is for someone to make a comment about what I was eating to spiral me out of control. Hope you understand.0 -
oh and I dont see it as negative, lol, I imagine a super fatty as a large person in a superman cape
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It is typically stated that the larger you are the larger deficit that you can have, but the 1000+ cal deficits should typically only be done under Dr supervision. Remember, you are setting yourself up for the rest of your life, and after eating ANY amount for an extended period of time your body adapts and it doesn't work anymore. So it's best to start at a smaller deficit and give yourself more wiggle room. As you get smaller, your TDEE decreases anyway, so no need to really decrease it so far in advance unless recommend by a doctor and supervised by him/her for health reasons.
Using the TDEE calculator, it allows you to work more with percentages, rather than just picking a random 500 or 1000 cal deficit.
http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/
I'd stick with the # that it gives you, and just remember to recalculate every 5 or so lbs lost. Also, remember that losing weight more slowly gives your skin more time to adjust as well, whereas large deficits w/large losses, produces a lot of extra skin that may never bounce back properly (think of how most women on the biggest loser look). Losing slowly, and lifting weights (along w/lots of water and healthy fats) will help to combat this and keep everything nice and tight while you are losing.
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Thanks! That was the most helpful post! Its the TDEE I dont understand. Ive never heard of it before joining this group. BMR Ive known about for ages, but yeah I will go to the link you posted and try to work it out. Thank you so much for taking the time for me!!!0
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No problem, babe :flowerforyou:
Eat up, your body will reward you for proper fuel
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oh and I dont see it as negative, lol, I imagine a super fatty as a large person in a superman cape
ahhh that analogy sounds a lot better than the way I was interpreting it.
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And you! 20lbs is awesome! 0
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Hello
I'm Super Tubby and I hear you on how tempting it is to spiral out of control the other way by hyper restricting.
A lot of people say we larger folks can get by on less because we have 'so much fat to fuel our bodies'. This is true in a sense- but we have to put in enough food to keep the fires going so our body can actually do the chemical process to convert energy from fat. If we go too low- our body just stops eating the fat and finds easier things to digest- like muscle and hair/nails. This is where eating above your BMR comes in.
It's really easy to feel like I have to punish myself or 'make up' for being fat. It's not true and that was the hardest thing for me to learn. I don't have to make up anything, be 'good' or 'bad', I don't have to punish myself- I did it, I know it and now I am free.
I eat 2300 a day and more if I need it. I work really hard on eating food to make up my numbers- and I'll be honest- right now it's ANY food. I will starve myself and binge all day long if I can't be 'perfect' and eat everything organic, 'clean' and picked by virgin nuns in the catskill mountains. Black/white all or nothing - that's where I battle my ED the most. So I allow myself to eat anything I want- don't care if it's 'bad' for me because I know for me, the pressure of being perfect is more dangerous than the extra 100 cals from some food. Maybe folks who are 130lbs have to worry more- but I've got room to go down slowly so there's a gradient there for me to get used to just adding healthier foods over time. This helps me stop the Pass or Fail idea that rules me so easily.
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Hello
I'm Super Tubby ...
if I can't be 'perfect' and eat everything organic, 'clean' and picked by virgin nuns in the catskill mountains. Black/white all or nothing - that's where I battle my ED the most. ....
Sorry for the ramble- hope that helped
OMG. You are funny as heck haha. Can we be friend? 0 -
Sure! I have my diary locked too lol we can vaguely support each other 0
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Hello
I'm Super Tubby and I hear you on how tempting it is to spiral out of control the other way by hyper restricting.
A lot of people say we larger folks can get by on less because we have 'so much fat to fuel our bodies'. This is true in a sense- but we have to put in enough food to keep the fires going so our body can actually do the chemical process to convert energy from fat. If we go too low- our body just stops eating the fat and finds easier things to digest- like muscle and hair/nails. This is where eating above your BMR comes in.
It's really easy to feel like I have to punish myself or 'make up' for being fat. It's not true and that was the hardest thing for me to learn. I don't have to make up anything, be 'good' or 'bad', I don't have to punish myself- I did it, I know it and now I am free.
I eat 2300 a day and more if I need it. I work really hard on eating food to make up my numbers- and I'll be honest- right now it's ANY food. I will starve myself and binge all day long if I can't be 'perfect' and eat everything organic, 'clean' and picked by virgin nuns in the catskill mountains. Black/white all or nothing - that's where I battle my ED the most. So I allow myself to eat anything I want- don't care if it's 'bad' for me because I know for me, the pressure of being perfect is more dangerous than the extra 100 cals from some food. Maybe folks who are 130lbs have to worry more- but I've got room to go down slowly so there's a gradient there for me to get used to just adding healthier foods over time. This helps me stop the Pass or Fail idea that rules me so easily.
Sorry for the ramble- hope that helped
I think you have the right attitude and I wish more people would view weight loss that way. I think a lot of people jump from eating 3000-5000 calories a day and go down to 1200 in an effort to lose weight, but it is such a dramatic drop and not sustainable in the long run. I would think it would be a huge shock to the body to drop 1000 or more calories off right away.0 -
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I think you have the right attitude and I wish more people would view weight loss that way. I think a lot of people jump from eating 3000-5000 calories a day and go down to 1200 in an effort to lose weight, but it is such a dramatic drop and not sustainable in the long run. I would think it would be a huge shock to the body to drop 1000 or more calories off right away.
Thanks. It started out when I got fat I ate less. Weight was coming off slowly. Then I had a doctor tell me to eat 1200 a day max. I did and got sick as hell. The attitude comes from going through the trenches and out the other side.
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After reading all the info here it surprises me that doctors recommend eating 1200 calories a day. All of my fit friends eat a ton of food (granted, it's good healthy food most of the time but they do splurge as well).
I wonder how many doctors have tried to live on 1200 calories for longer than a day. it's challenging and my body was screaming at me the whole time. That just doesn't seem healthy if my body is telling me it's not enough (through hair loss, lack of energy, constipation, moodiness, sleeplessness etc.).0 -
I have to admit, I love this thread. So much education going on. 0
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Hi there and welcome! Congrats on your weight loss so far. Just want to echo what Kiki said about doing this thing right, so you can do it for life. I know the numbers sounds so big, especially considering the 1200 calorie diaries that are so commonplace on here. I had alot of weight to lose as well and wish I had done it right from the beginning, but I have been so blessed by this group and would highly encourage you to start your journey on the right foot. I think it will make things easier for you to continue on this journey and make it a lifestyle versus an on-again, off-again, thing. At my highest weight, I was 275 lbs and Im down to about 172 right now. I lost the first 50 by starving myself. I had the Biggest Loser mentality: eating as little as possible, and working out as much as possible. Big mistake. Eventually I starting gaining weight even though I my net was ridiculously low, and was often netting into the negative numbers Then I hit a six month plateau, and has all sorts of health issues arising so I finally started eating more. I've been slowly increasing my calories since then. But since embracing the eating more philosophy, lifting heavy, and cutting down on my cardio, I am finding that even though the scale isnt moving, the sizes are and that is all that really matters anyway, right? Btw I right now my cut calories are 2200, so I definitely think your calories can be higher. Enjoy the extra food, try to make it as clean, healthy, and protein rich as possible. Blessings to you on your journey!0
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Ya know, I dont think I EVER made it down to 1200 except for the 3 months post op. I dunno if my sleeve is bigger than others or my stomach is stretchier or what....but I eat quite a bit for a bariatric patient. And that doesn't bother me one bit. You do see some WLS patients who have lived on 800 cals for a couple of years and they don't look right. Something about their face says hello, Ive have WLS. I dont have any "facts" to back it up, but I think eating less than 1200 calories by WLS or by will power is not good in the long run yes it will get you thin and get you your life back...and to some that is all that matters, but to me I wanna be NORMAL. And that means eating crap sometimes. I still have to focus on protein etc but I can pack away the calories and if I eat less than 2000....well....you don't wanna be around me, thats for sure, lol.
Im happy I found this group. Sorry I offended some of you in my OP Im just a blunt tell it like it is and laugh about it type person.
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but to me I wanna be NORMAL. And that means eating crap sometimes. I still have to focus on protein etc but I can pack away the calories and if I eat less than 2000....well....you don't wanna be around me, thats for sure, lol.
Im happy I found this group. Sorry I offended some of you in my OP Im just a blunt tell it like it is and laugh about it type person.
*puts cape back on and flies off*
This is how I feel too. I also struggled with an ED since I was 9 years old. I would watch my friends eat whatever they wanted and wondered why I couldn't do that too. So I would starve myself and then binge later on etc. etc. Such an awful cycle.
I also just want to be normal. I want to eat a normal amount of food and enjoy some indulgences every now and then. And that is what I am doing here.
now that I have been eating more for a few weeks I don't know how I managed on 1200.0 -
First of all, you are HILARIOUS and I'm so glad you found this group. I echo everything that has already been said. Find your Scooby numbers and go to town. I can't wait to hear how awesome you are doing, because I know that is going to happen! Welcome and let's go have a snack! :happy:Ya know, I dont think I EVER made it down to 1200 except for the 3 months post op. I dunno if my sleeve is bigger than others or my stomach is stretchier or what....but I eat quite a bit for a bariatric patient. And that doesn't bother me one bit. You do see some WLS patients who have lived on 800 cals for a couple of years and they don't look right. Something about their face says hello, Ive have WLS. I dont have any "facts" to back it up, but I think eating less than 1200 calories by WLS or by will power is not good in the long run yes it will get you thin and get you your life back...and to some that is all that matters, but to me I wanna be NORMAL. And that means eating crap sometimes. I still have to focus on protein etc but I can pack away the calories and if I eat less than 2000....well....you don't wanna be around me, thats for sure, lol.
Im happy I found this group. Sorry I offended some of you in my OP Im just a blunt tell it like it is and laugh about it type person.
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hahaha thanks And I did have a snack.....I had a snickers nom nom nom. And dont even feel slightly guilty. In fact. i had 2!! haha. A well spent 488 calories this time of the month, lol. 0
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hahaha thanks And I did have a snack.....I had a snickers nom nom nom. And dont even feel slightly guilty. In fact. i had 2!! haha. A well spent 488 calories this time of the month, lol.
Super Chic~
OK, I get you now and the more I read, the more I like!!
You are just the right addition to our family!
Welcome:flowerforyou: (and you will be Super Chic to me, k?)0 -
After reading all the info here it surprises me that doctors recommend eating 1200 calories a day. All of my fit friends eat a ton of food (granted, it's good healthy food most of the time but they do splurge as well).
I wonder how many doctors have tried to live on 1200 calories for longer than a day. it's challenging and my body was screaming at me the whole time. That just doesn't seem healthy if my body is telling me it's not enough (through hair loss, lack of energy, constipation, moodiness, sleeplessness etc.).
I hear you on the doctor thing! Especially since most the docs I have/had either are overweight or slightly overweight but you can tell they never get any exercise. I wonder where this 1200 number even came from especially since most nutrition labels are based off a 2,000 cal diet. *insert eye roll smiley here*0 -
After reading all the info here it surprises me that doctors recommend eating 1200 calories a day. All of my fit friends eat a ton of food (granted, it's good healthy food most of the time but they do splurge as well).
I wonder how many doctors have tried to live on 1200 calories for longer than a day. it's challenging and my body was screaming at me the whole time. That just doesn't seem healthy if my body is telling me it's not enough (through hair loss, lack of energy, constipation, moodiness, sleeplessness etc.).
I hear you on the doctor thing! Especially since most the docs I have/had either are overweight or slightly overweight but you can tell they never get any exercise. I wonder where this 1200 number even came from especially since most nutrition labels are based off a 2,000 cal diet. *insert eye roll smiley here*
Honestly I think the 1200 calories came from the early 1980s....where it shoulda stayed!!! haha0 -
Super Chic~
OK, I get you now and the more I read, the more I like!!
You are just the right addition to our family!
Welcome:flowerforyou: (and you will be Super Chic to me, k?)
awwww! THANKS!! haha. I like when people like me
I guess with me I dont give people a warming up to me period, lol, I just put all it out there and ya either hate me or love me, lol.0
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