How soon will I be ready to train for Marathon after Half?
StrongerByTheMiles
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With my first half approaching in a few weeks, I am already asking myself the evident question, "Will I aim for a full Marathon next?" I planned to wait until after this race to think about it, but I am so pumped up! I found one that looks very appealing. It is on October 21st. Does anyone have advice on how much training time I should allow between a half and a full? I feel like I could be preapred by then, but I know that there is a big difference between 13.1 and 26.2. I am looking for advice from anyone that has run both
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I ran a few half marathons before I ran my first full, probably a good year from the first day I laced up a pair of sneakers. I would suggest that you gauge how you're doing with the half and training and see how it goes. You may be surprised at how you feel (whether good or bad) after running the half. I'd be worried about increasing your mileage too much too soon and risking injury, but that's just me. Only you know what your limits are.
Just for reference, I ran my first half with exactly 2 months prep from the first day I laced my running shoes, and ran 2 others before running a full the following Fall. I felt fine running the full, but I think having those other races under my belt really helped. Also, make sure you check the course - hills and elevation gain can really make or break a race.
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I think only you can gauge how you feel as far as what time is enough between the two. I personally ran my first half marathon, and got bit by the marathon bug!
I ran my first half in October--had some ankle issues so I gave myself light run time through that holiday season. Then by spring I couldn't wait any longer to do a full. So I registered for full that coming November. It was nothing short of life changing!
Next full will be in January already excited to start the training for that one next month0 -
I ran halfs for a couple years before I decided I was ready to train for a full. Personal I think one should have 6 months of 25-30 miles per week before they start an 18 week marathon training program.
I guess part of the deal is whether one is wanting to check the "I ran a marathon" box or become a runner for life.
As far as full vs. half, they are really different animals. The half is much more forgiving and you can muscle through even if you are a bit under-trained. The full is a "truth teller," you will be exposed at mile 23. There was a long thread about it last week in the fitness & exercise forum.
Also, don't forget to double your training time. Those 20 milers can take 3 or 4 hours depending on your pace.
Bottom line, play it by ear and you will know when you are ready.0 -
I think you have just the right amount of time to prepare for that marathon especially if your goal is to just finish. I would start training for the marathon but not register untill about 4-6 weeks out. Many of my friends first marathons came 10 weeks after their first half.0
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I ran my first half in November 2011 last year and my first full in March 2012. If I had to do it over I would probably have given myself more time to prepare, maybe 6 months? Still, I completed it in 4:11. Best advice is not to go out too fast. Other than that get in your long runs, I think the longest I ran was 18, 20 & 22 before the full. I recently did another half and it was my best time yet. It seemed short in comparison to the full.
I would tell anyone that has run a half to definitely go for the full. It's such as sense of accomplishment and very doable. It seems hard but even a half seemed hard at first, right? So go for it.0 -
Thanks everyone! This is all very helpful. I have been running for about 7 months now (20-30 miles/wk). My half is June 24th. It looks liked the last "big" deadline to register for the full before risking it being full and paying the highest price is August 21. That would be exactly 2 months out. If I start the 18 week plan I printed out, it would start one week after my half. It actually starts out much simpler than what I am doing now. Any suggestions? Should I go back down and build back up, or show I add a mile or two to ever run? I think I feel confident about this. I should be able to know how I feel but August 21.
I am a little eager to do this sooner rather than later. I plan to become pregnant at any time. However, it doesn't appear likely to happen "real" soon. That is a topic for a whole other discussion board. AT this point, running and having an awesome goal in mind is AMAZING stress relief and I also would like to possibly do a marathon before having a child. I know it will be harder to train after. (I will absolutely continue to work my full-time, demanding job. Time will be hard and my body would be set back.
The Columbus Marathon is what I am looking at. Has anyone ran it? It looks like a flat course with alot of entertainment. It is only a few hour drive from me as well. I think October would be a great time of year since it is neither extremely hot or cold. Today is a 12 mile run so I will have more time to think about everyone's advice. I love the clarity that comes to your mind when running.0 -
4:11 is am incredible time!!! I will not set any time goals for my first full, but I know i won't run it that fast! Although, I am trying not to set a time goal for my half, but it's hard. I know what I want to run it in. I just refuse to tell anyone else. Haha.0
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When you are start a new training plan you don't need to take your long run back down to where the plan starts. Keep it up ~ 11 or 12 and wait for the plan to catch up (or get and stay a little ahead).
Never forget the training plan is a simply a guideline - just numbers on a page. It doesn't know when you are feeling great or when you need some extra rest.0 -
Never forget the training plan is a simply a guideline - just numbers on a page. It doesn't know when you are feeling great or when you need some extra rest.
^^^ Excellent advice. Training plans are guidelines. Don't kill yourself trying to follow it. If you need rest, take it. If you're feeling great, run an extra mile or two.0 -
Thanks for the tip/reminder on the running plans. I do tend to push myself too much to stick exactly to the plans. I know it isn't always the best thing to do, but it's my personality. Haha. I can be very much of a perfectionist at times, so I think that I have to train "perfectly" which means getting in the exactly mileage. I need to get away from that! I do my runs on different days, but I have been pretty strict with the mileage. It also was easier to do w/ the half. I know that with the full training I need to be a little more lenient.
I think I will do a week of light running after the half, then go for a 14 miler the next week. I thought about dropping back down a little, but I think I'd rather push ahead right away so that I motivate myself to keep doing it. I anticipate a few hard weeks and there may be some weeks when I get into the higher miles that I just can't physically do the long runs, so this will allow a little "wiggle room" later in training if need be.0 -
if you're keen to do a full and you have a reasonable base, why not get a longer training programme and treat the upcoming half as part of the longer training schedule? my mate did that- he also had oodles of natural talent though and is rather genetically superior! but he had about 14 weeks between the half and the full, so got a 20 week programme and just started 6 weeks in (but kept the long run between 10-13 miles until the plan started to ask for longer distances). it worked for him but it does take an awful lot of time, dedication and motivation, possibly with a spash of determination and OCD for good measure!
the other thing you can do (if you want to) is do the half then get a full training programme and start the programme however many weeks out from the full you are- i've done that this time. i'm running a half on 20th august, and my full is on 28th oct. so my training plan for the full covers that 11 week(ish) period. but i've done a full before (and it was very hard) and have steadily increased my mileage over the past 18 months.
as for me, i started 'running' in jan last year. i eventually ran my first half in sept, then another in oct. i didn't know what to do after that and spent 4 weeks improving my 5k time. then i decided that the next logical step was to train for a full. so in dec i started a 20 week training plan which included several other halves as a part of the training. i ran my first full in may. so i think that you have the time if you want to do it. they both have their own challenges. it's more about you getting in the training without hurting yourself.0 -
I am a little late responding, but I really appreciate all of the input! It gave me alot to think about. think that the important thing for me to realize is that everyone is different and nobody can tell me when I will be ready. I need to listen to my body. My half is the weekend (aaahh!!!!) so I am thinking about this more. I shouldn't think beyond the half yet, but that is not my personality. I like to aim high and make a plan. I have decided to do the half and start the full training after. I have a schedule (I think 20 week?) that if I start in week 4, I should do well. It takes me back to starting around 12 miles, so I get a very SLIGHT break before my mileage builds again. By the middle of August (the deadline for any early registration perks) I should be at 18 miles. That should give me a good feel for if I can do 26.2 in October.0