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Imma show up at my parents house with my travel food scale. But I plan on only eating one meal that day, so I just need to stay under 1700. Calories won’t be hard, macros will.

the "healthy" range for most height is 35 pounds. way more than enough to cover the disparity due to bone size.

this is how it's supposed to be. BMI provides a starting point. If it's too high or too low doctors should know to then look for other things.

I just discovered that the CDC has a pretty good page addressing the question of BMI to BF% correlations, with citations

My physical therapist told me this morning that I'm allowed to start doing deadlifts and front squats again! Still no back squats. But that's ok. I hate back squats anyways. But I get to lift things up and put them down again!

the authors of the study divided BF% into 4 categories to correspond directly with BMI. What you are saying is that somebody with a BMI of either "healthy weight" or "overweight" is normal. They do not, not for one second, not in any way what so ever, say that somebody with an "ideal weight" or "overweight" BF% would be…

this has to be a joke. The study breaks BF% into 4 categories. Underweight, Ideal Weight, Overweight, and Obese. These 4 categories mirror the 4 categories of BMI. Table 1 makes this plainly clear. this quote *17.3% of women and 31.6% of men identified as obese according to BMI were not, based on BF%. *19.9% of women and…

insurance companies use it because it's reasonably predictive, and more consistent and cheaper to attain than BF%. If BF% were as easy and cheep to obtain, they would ABSOLUTELY use it, because it's more predictive, and insurance is an actuarial game, accuracy is important. There's no conspiracy to charge body builders…

NO. you did not read it. At all. Even the charts YOU posted from SOMEWHERE ELSE had an "ideal weight" category. How are you possibly this obtuse? You must be trolling at this point. i know you think there are only 3 because only 3 are shown in Table 4. But please, add the numbers. they do not add to 100. Because this…

good food is an evil temptress, with great powers of seduction.

it does. because that's not true. the study ONLY says that people who are overweight or overfat under either metric may be more or less overweight or overfat under the other. It doesn't give error rates for either ideal weight or underweight.

he's insistent that because one study found inconsistency between what BMI said was "obese" and what their cutoffs for BF% said was "obese", that BMI is thus junk. He didn't really read the study, he just pulled out a choice quote that somebody else found and posted and ran with it. As I repeatedly pointed out, the…

I used to love food. But food made me fat. *kitten* food.

wrong. the study had an "ideal weight" cut off of 20.6% BF to 24.2% BF depending on age. The obese threshold was 27.5% to 31.1% depending on age. see Table 1 The % incorrectly categorized was only those above the "ideal weight" threshold for their age, only those categorized as overweight or obese. We've been through this.…

I'm not rehashing all of this again. it's somebody else's turn to try to get through to you.

and I already tore it to shreds. but thanks for playing. try again.

citation needed

i think we're in agreement

ok, let's be a little clear on something. As a tool it predicts that 95% of people in a population would be approximately within the normal BMI range under normal conditions, with no extenuating factors. Not that any particular percentage of people WILL be in that range. Likewise, on an individual level, it predicts that…

Arnold and The Rock are not outliers and do not disprove the rule. They have worked hard to engage in behavior that would yield a high BMI and low BF%, intentionally. People need to stop using them as examples of "outliers." tomteboda is an outlier, a true outlier

YOU are literally an outlier. Something outside of your behavior is causing you to not fit the BMI model as intended.

Y’all seem pretty persistent In using the term “outlier” incorrectly.

sedentary life inside a cubical while eating excess amounts of junk food are behaviors outside the norm of human evolution. but they are just that, behaviors. They're easy behaviors, but they're behaviors. People are not evolved to or genetically inclined toward sedentary life and a fast food diet.

this is my favorite post I have ever seen on this site.

human food rituals are fascinating.

You really didn't understand anything in my post, did you? Arnold was statistically obese according to BMI due to external factors totally under his control. That doesn't make him a statistical outlier, or anomaly. His normal weight, if he behaved like a normal person, would be within BMI health weight parameters, as would…

oy vey, still on this. always will be I suppose. Somebody who puts deliberate effort into building mass is going to be outside of the BMI scale. That doesn't make them a true outlier though. They forced their body outside it. If they, as a person, were to stop putting great effort into building and maintaining mass, and…

I was sloppy with by diet this week. Didn't log correctly, too much snacking, too many carbs. Lost about half as much as I should have. Must try harder, I'm getting complacent as I lose more.

I'm excellent with chopsticks, despite being left-handed and having to figure it out completely on my own because directions are always illustrated for right handed normies.

PT still won’t let me squat or deadlift, so I’m starting to work on more single leg squat exercises, which are allowed. Hopefully my balance will improve enough that I can overload my legs fully. 11/14 Workout - Legs 5min bike Superset 1 - 3 rounds 12 TRX pistols 15 bridges feet-on-bench w/50lb DB 15 bridges…