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@Thorbjornn is correct. The calorie total is wrong. And its nothing to do with whether the macro values in a food is correct. (Well, OK, that will of course matter, but that's not the fundamental problem.) MFP just don't do the calorie calculations correctly. ie the same way that EVERYONE ELSE DOES THEM. Below I refer to…

No. :-( I expect its MFP trying to make sure we always see the stuff it's trying to sell us. Even with a Premium account, you can't change it

Yeah well. Metrics are very valuable if you can even extract them from the system. Currently MFP doesn't give you any actually useful graphs to be able to compare weight change vs calorie differences. And at this moment in time, we can't even export our data.

The reason to use MFP for me is that is has the food database and macro breakdowns. It makes it really easy to do the recording. IF I had to work it all out manually to put into a spreadsheet I wjust wouldn't do it. Life is too short to spend that much time each day manually calculating calories.

Again, thank you for an incredible amount of words, and I appreciate the time this took you. To address your last comment, no it's totally fine. I demanded (totally the right word) ideas and some level of evidence and new thoughts. You have kindly taken the time. There are outliers, but calling them outliers is diengenous…

Yeah, that is a Premium setting though. Everyone else can't. So long as it let you get the numbers separately at some level ti should be fine. I try not to let it "fool" me into thinking I can eat more...

First, thank you for your INCREDIBLY long and kind post. Although I am aware that calorie burn (and for that matter the calories stated in food) is an estimate, explaining the underlying reason why they may be inaccurate AND WHY the companies cannot account for it is very helpful. One comment / question I would have was…

I do think people are trying to help. The last three or four days have been awful for various reasons and it all became way too much. And yes I am thrashing around. I'm feeling a LOT better now, a combination of yes, talking to a counsellor about a lot of stuff (not just this) and finding my old SSRI meds which I haven't…

Yeah, so in order to get anyone to talk, I have to not ask questions? Not say where it hasn't worked for me before? Not describe my problems and why I distrust? All that's going to do is make me lie to everyone.

How is 10kg tiny? It's over 10% of my body weight. Currently 90kg. Sorry but I can see the unsightly spare tire. The flabby belly. Of course, my body loses fat off the extremities first so my belly is the one to gain fat first, or lose it last. Surgery maybe? Who knows.

I didn't say I gained weight. I said I stayed the same. And I wish I could show you in my diary. But MFP have lost that data. It's on my phone, but they are incompetent to get it off and sync it back into their system. But also, why does it matter? There are people in this thread insisting that it's ONLY calories in,…

Also, it's not just fat, you can lose muscle mass as well. Which is my fear. Because then metabolism drops even further. Calories in, calories out is only about weight as we know. It does not have to be fat, it could be ANY part that can be metabolised. Same with a calorie excess for gaining muscle. Making that aim at…

I can only go on my experience that I could show you all IF MFP hadn't lost my data off the website. Of course, then you will all go "he must have eaten that 3500-4000 calories a week extra without noticing." Which is possible... But am I really so self deceiving not to have noticed?

I'm basically 90kg. Aiming at 80 (or 75 if the BMI is to be believed. Which is isn't.)

You mean someone who might listen to me? Like someone here might? Oh gosh, I wonder why I posted in these forums? Yes, I'm bitter and angry. And that sucks. I'm trying to find a way through, believe it or not.

Yes to everyone. at the time, I was logging using scales. I thought that was obvious. I am doing it again starting properly just today. With enforced isolation it seems a good opportunity. I also know how and when to weight myself. I did do this for many months consistently as I said at the top.

Yes I do. I know about weighing at the same time I know it fluctuates. I have years of data on my phone.

4 years ago, I did that for 4-5 months. With a strenuous gym routine. Nothing. I got medical checks. Nothing. I realize you don't have that information above. I have put it in other threads, and I forget I haven't put it in here. I had that data in MFP. They have lost the data from the website. It appears to still be in my…

Yes 4 years ago I did try what MFP recommended, along with a strenuous gym routine. 4 years ago I tracked (using scales) what I was eating and my exercise using Fitbit, over at least 4-5 months. And other times more sporadically. NOTHING. No change. And MFP have lost my data off the website so I can't even point anyone at…

Apparently it's not, because many fitness people disagree with it. Just like they all have different things they think work. If this was a science, there would be broad agreement. There isn't.

Look, I wish I was stupid and could just believe everything anyone says. It would make life so much easier.

It's worked so far. I don't ****** know. Neither does anyone else. Look, I am going to do my level best to log EVERYTHING that goes in my mouth for the next month of isolation. EVERYTHING. And see what happens. But I guarantee that if I don't lose weight or god forbid gain weight that there will be a bunch of people…

How can I be too close to the goal? I'm 10kg (or more) away

And yet, that APPEARS to be the only way I can lose weight.

I set my calories per day to 1200. But then when I go back through the Guided Goals, it sets my calories to 1500. How do I stop it doing that? For what ever reason, I appear to need to be able to set VERY low calories for myself. Just let me do it!

The logging I was doing was from years back. Yes, I was using a digital scale. As far as I know, I was doing things right. The only thing I know to do better is to be ANALLY retentive and annoying. And be 110% accurate. But if it still fails then what? Seriously. I AM looking for new ideas. You say to try something new.…

I'm having a look thanks. Maybe I will be able to to talk to a person. But you really should have mentioned that its $180 for 4 months, after a 2 week trial...

Saying "just google it" is the MOST USELESS advice anyone can give. You know as well as I do that the internet is huge. Random articles are random. Please explain how I know THEY know what they are talking about. Peer reviewed and repeated research is few and far between. And often behind paywalls. Do you have links to…

I have premium. And glad to export data to munge it around. But I then found that MFP has lost my data that I need. The vast majority of my historical data is missing off the website. It appears to be on my phone. They appear to be incapable of forcing my phone to upload it's data to the website.

What? Of course there are metabolism increasers. Caffeine for one. Mild sure. There are others, all the way up to the medically prescribed or illegal like the amphetamine classes. Please explain the increase in warmth and sweating I get with this. Appetite suppressors are something I need to find good ones for. Because I…