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I like bourbon. When I occasionally drink it, Pappy Van Winkle is a favorite. I'm not a big scotch fan, but my husband is, so I bought him a bottle of The Glenlivet 21Year Old Archive for his birthday. It's wonderful. I guess my whisky has to be old enough to drink whisky before I enjoy it.

I would like to see peer-reviewed studies on that, please.

Perhaps PMS is causing water retention? Sometimes when we start focusing more on the scale we realize just how much water weight we temporarily gain each month. I will gain 2-4 pounds for at least a week, then it's gone, plus more, a couple weeks later.

While medications can affect different people in different ways, I don't believe hkisme's experience is the norm for most people taking phen. I have never felt like this in the three months I've been on it. I also took it for three or four months about 15 years ago and never had those feelings. My side effects have been…

That will get better in time, Cassie, but may never completely let up. It's the only side effect I ever had. Just drink lots of water, which you should be doing anyway. Good luck!

I'm not sure if this story illustrates irresponsible physicians or the relative safety of phentermine.

Yes, just like someone who stops smoking with a nicotine patch doesn't deserve it. Give me a break.

Phen is a controlled substance. This seems more than a little illegal.

So true! I can't tell you how many pounds I've gained back without phentermine having been in the mix. It all comes down to maintaining the lifestyle changes once you lose it, no matter how you lose it.

Mine is prescribed by a physician who monitors my health weekly while I'm on it. I wouldn't trust an internet source, and IMO, I don't think it's a good idea to be on this medication without being under a doctor's care. Also, it is not a medication for someone who has so little weight to lose.

Oh, I know. I don't bother to defend it anymore. But this time I was responding to a poster who asked for a story from someone who had actually had a good result with phen, because all they had been hearing were anecdotes from people who knew someone that had gained back all their weight right away after going off it,…

I was on it about 17 years ago, when it was prescribed in combination with fenfluramine, and lost around 50 lbs. Then I lost another 10 after coming off it, and was at my goal, a size 4. I kept the weight off for 10 years by continuing to keep a food diary and exercising regularly, until I had a baby and became more…

Not true about the liver. From the National Institutes of Health: "Hepatotoxicity Phentermine has not been linked to an increased rate of serum enzyme elevations during therapy; however, results of ALT monitoring during phentermine therapy have rarely been reported. Despite long-term availability and wide use of…

I agree with everything you said, except the part about phen being addictive: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/804728

I've been on it for four months, and I'm down 41 lbs., 9 lbs. from goal. I'm really only able to consume a net of about 1,200 calories/day on phen. I don't have the appetite for more. This is my second time on it. I was on it about 17 years ago and lost 55 lbs., then dropped another 10 or so once I came off it. I kept it…

Fine dining, cooking, and wine.

It seems a bit fast. But I have to say, throughout my life I've been on plans where I lost one pound or two pounds per week and immediately gained it all back. In fact, I've done it more times than I can remember. I also once lost around three pounds per week, on average, and kept it off for more than 10 years. For me,…

Anecdotally, I tend to agree. I've been on 1,200 calories a day for three months, and I feel better than I ever have. I have energy to spare and I'm sleeping great. I'm eating more protein, lifting weights, and seeing a decrease in fat while muscle is on the increase. I have about 15 more pounds to go, I'm losing a steady…

Oh, I understand, OP. But it didn't happen to me in my early 40s. It took a little longer. I'm 51, not yet menopausal, and I didn't have a problem with what you describe until after age 45. But I sure do now. I had a baby 6 weeks before I turned 45 and could not get my weight under control after that. Up until then, I…

Good luck, Trisha! It sounds like you have a couple of strong motivators there. I'm surprised you couldn't work out when deployed. My nephew, a Marine, deployed to Iraq for six months a few years ago, and he was able to exercise regularly.

I think women of a "certain age," look better with 10 extra pounds as they grow older. In my case, I can already tell that my face now will look more hollow and sunken at 140 (my fighting weight as a "kid") than it did 20 years ago. It's one reason I'm shooting for 150 to start with.

My experience exactly. Ugh.

I'm sorry to hear you had a poor result. I lost 60+ pounds on phen about 20 years ago, and I was fine when I came off it. I maintained the loss for 12 years +/- 5 lbs. because I continued to track calories and exercise. I had a baby and got lazy, so I gained much of it back, but I'm back on track again. I have gained…

It can be done. When fenfluramine was pulled from the fen-phen combination (and the market) years ago, many doctors started prescribing phen with certain antidepressants. http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1008283866328426880

Hoo boy! I wish I only had 13 to lose. I actually gained back all but about 13 pounds of my original loss of 60.

I take it about 10 a.m. and then take a couple L-tyrosine around 4 pm to extend the effect. That gets me through dinner and the evening without snacking, and I can still get to sleep by 10. If I took it at night, it would definitely affect my sleep.

I did! But I got pregnant at 44, and once I had the baby I got busy and lazy and reverted to old habits. Not to mention slowing metabolism that you can't turn your back on after 40. Gained all but about 13 pounds back. UGH!

If you Google long-term effects of phentermine, there are abstracts and articles available on everything from liver toxicity to addiction. I like meeting with the counselor. She's very motivating because she lost 60 pounds (with phen) and has maintained it for five or six years. She's had lots of tips for me to get more…

Possibly, but maybe not for everyone. There's no real one size fits all for this, so we shouldn't be dismissive of any tactic unless it's unhealthy. As stated, the formula is a reference point for someone who doesn't know where to begin a maintenance plan. In my case, it worked much better than trial and error and…

Seems to be correct. I verified with three different sites, including Wikipedia, and they all show the Harris Benedict Equation with 66 for men and 655 for women. There are also many automated BMR calculators online that you can Google if you don't want to do the equation yourself. However, I've found that many of them…