SteveJWatson Member

Weird. I just redid it - my measurements haven't changed at all and Military put me at 15% and Covert-Bailey at 10.2 %

Maybe there is an error in the formula used and I should ignore the minus sign and assume it is saying that I am +10.4%BF... Seems almost legit actually - I was (by your visual estimation) 12-13% at 164lbs, I bulked and then cut to 160lbs....

I'm about 4lbs lighter than I was last time I cut - and reached 13-14% bf....so I'm guesing it makes me 12%ish, but still...

A pedant writes; A marathon is a kind of race....

Bread, pasta, porridge, ice-cream, beer, beer....... Beer. Mmmmmm beer...

Why would you not lift when you are cutting? Cutting: Lift, (cardio if you choose), eat at a deficit Bulking: Lift, eat at a surplus.

I've never drunk too much, or indeed, too little in my entire life. I have only ever drunk enough. :drinker:

Ignoring the incredibly judgy "you must be a wino" comments - my tolerance to booze got less when I lost weight. I was quite capable of having 8 pints over the course of a night out and remaining (relatively) compos mentis when I was 17stone. Now I'm battered after 4.

Also - carbs are your friend when you are gaining. Work those grains back into your diet. Pasta, bread, breakfast cereal...

I managed to get myself to 164lbs and about 12% BF by last year (I have since bulked and cut and am now 170lbs at the same bf). I have taken up Rugby again at 34, and now play on the wing, and in the off-season have discovered that I am quicker than most of the players there, including some young sprinters. I did not cut…

Why on earth would this matter to someone trying to GAIN WEIGHT. Jeeeesus, what has become of the "aim to gain" subforum?

Which is precisely what you are aiming to do if you are wanting to gain muscle mass.

Its funny - only people who knew you before comment. I took up Rugby again last year after I had reached 166lbs. I'm about 170 now after bulking and cutting.....People on my team just assume I have always been slender.

Yeah. I use a 'herbal' supplement with hops and...er...malted barley.

I wonder what would happen if you ran hydrochloric acid (the acid found in your stomach for those unsure) through the same pipes?......

Lots of people pay good money from elevated chemical (including sodium) levels in water. Its called mineral water....

"Muscle relaxors so you can sleep at night?" You mean booze, don't you? :bigsmile:

GOMAD is for GAINING weight not LOSING weight.

I'm a Rugby player "larger" coaches (and players, come to that) are everywhere and surprisingly fit - 80 minutes of Rugby on match day is no mean feat for anybody.

I've milked them - although mostly on a cluster. I have also hand-milked sheep to tube-feed lambs...

I quite fancy a milking goat, I just know that getting up to milk it every day would become annoying in the extreme after a while. What are those? Anglo-Nubians?

I wouldn't because, quite frankly, if I was going to drink all that milk, I'd use it as an excuse to buy a cow and then I'd have to milk the *kitten* every day.

I have tended to stay away from the public fora with the exception of "gaining weight" because of the ammount of ridiculous there. I am saddened to see it has spilled over to here.

1) Not in Europe, they aren't - growth hormone (both injected and in feeds) contravenes EU health regs. 2) There is nothing intrinsically "bad" about fat or sugar. Also - Yes, it does grow a calf, but "finished" animals (Cows, sheep, pigs etc) are not hugely fatty, an overfat carcase wil be penalised at the abbotoir, and…

Why? It was an utterly ignorant comment made by someone who is clearly stupid.

Bully for you - what if you aren't 'college' clever? Do you deserve to live in the gutter?

Quite, if you raise the price of your product, less people will buy it...

Confusing the two? Are you seriously trying to suggest that strands of economics are somehow not aligned to a political ideology?

For what its worth - I have an MSc (in an actual science) and scientists are some of the least politically informed people I have ever met.

Yes. See: The entire history of the labour movement Wat Tyler - Lech Walesa. It gets pretty interesting 1848-1952.....