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I don't 100% understand either, but yes I think that's how I understand it. I think the question is.. where does the virus get the toehold it needs to get into your cells, start replicating in overdrive, and do whatever damage it's going to do? And what is the best way to test whether the virus has done that or not? It…

I'm listening to a TWIV from the weekend and they mentioned they get lots of emails asking why they haven't done an episode about Delta. And they said that's because there is no scientifically verifiable data about it yet. It's too new. The data available is mostly anecdotal. The actual scientific study papers note that…

I think I read that there were a lot of tourists there. So if you want to get technical, you have to consider the possibility that the outbreak included a bunch of unvaxxed tourists who promptly left and are not around to be counted. If 74% of the residents who tested positive were vaxxed, that's not necessarily 74% of the…

They discussed it on TWIV and cited a survey paper I looked at but to be honest I've looked at so many studies I don't remember where. They estimated about 10% of children with symptoms have lingering symptoms for weeks, and that matched what they were seeing anecdotally. I see just yesterday a new study suggests it's 4%…

The school age children I know, old enough to understand why, don't have a problem wearing a mask even if they aren't always great at complying. Barely 1% of children died from polio, but we took great lengths to protect them until the vaxx was available. Children seem to have a similar risk of long covid, which doesn't…

I'm listening to an interview with Dr Ashish Jha and he is saying that if you get past sensationalized media reports and "leaks", it is a tiny fraction of vaxxed people getting sick. And the data about vaxxed people being able to spread it suggests that while they CAN spread it, they are much less likely to. There are…

I think it is SUPER important to remember that not everyone is vaccinated, and we don't yet know how long vaccine or illness acquired protection lasts. No children under 12 are vaccinated yet. Those taking immuno suppressive medications don't yet know if the vaccine is actually protecting them or not. Those who are…

Unfortunately, a lot of management folks are obsessed with the idea that "corporate culture" is of the highest priority. If people aren't here, how can we all feel like a team? They also tend to be extroverts, so they assume all their workers are energized by an office full of people like they are. And some are untrusting,…

Vaccine efficacy is not less than 50%. The vaccines are intended to prevent severe illness and death, and they are still doing that dramatically well. The hope was that they would also prevent infection, and they also seem to do that very well in most variants, maybe not so well with Delta. But even in that MA spreader, I…

Several states are reporting full ICUs and are canceling elective and non essential procedures. Deaths are a lagging statistic, it often takes several weeks for a serious case to become fatal. That 1 death is a reflection of community spread in May and June. Not saying it WILL be worse, just that cases exploding now won't…

I personally would still rather be vaxxed, as I have no idea if I'd have a mild illness like you or end up with long covid or something worse, and we have no idea how long the virus hides in your body after infection. I don't see the suggestion that natural immunity is stronger in your link, but I guess it was in one of…

Well crap. Wishing her a speedy and complete recovery.

They also need to remove the emergency usage tag and officially approve at least one of the vaccines as soon as they have adequate data. Any administrative or red tape related delays have to be removed, just like they did for the trials. Obviously if they still have questions that need answering it wouldn't be a good look…

I saw a quick report on the news that was a reminder of why its not a great idea to just let the unvaxxed get sick and live like nothing is wrong - hospitals in Kansas City are reaching capacity and starting to have to cancel elective and non-emergency surgeries, and doctors nurses and respiratory pros are having to give…

Yep, my concern isn't that I might get sick for a couple of days. Its the long term effects of infection. And I cannot stress this enough, I am concerned about young people who either are not allowed to get vaxxed yet or whose parents choose not to take them. While the risk might be low, there has been an alarming increase…

I'm not sure how I feel about your testing focus, but as far as I'm concerned proof of vaxx or consecutive negative tests should be required for the time being for any crowded public places, like a plane. Especially in situations where masking isn't realistic or would be stressful for employees to enforce. I know on TWiV…

The problem with considering an asymptomatic infection "not sick" is that we don't actually know that yet. We dont know that someone with an asymptomatic COVID-19 infection won't end up with a shingles-like or polio-like secondary illness 20 years from now. I also know a couple of people my age who tested positive back…

Yeah and unfortunately the unvaccinated are going to allow for more spikes, which will cause more breakthrough cases than if we actually got to herd immunity. They'll keep the virus widely circulating and mutating. And if a mutation changes the spike protein, it "could" bypass the vaccine taught antibodies entirely. But…

This is a great explanation of what I'm wanting to say but couldn't put as clearly. While my risk of getting infected may be very low, it's not zero, and they don't know what the long term affect of getting a slight infection are. It's not important to the community if I get infected now, because I won't need a hospital…

I've read there are lots of anecdotes of long covid folks feeling better after vaccination. They're not sure why that would be, and I'm not sure how common it is. But hopefully it's another clue!

Just to add to the discussion about "breakthrough" cases, this is why herd immunity is the important goal. If you are vaccinated and you come in contact with the virus, your chances of getting infected are greatly reduced, not zero. So if you're vaccinated, but you're constantly running into the virus, you might still get…

You're assuming he wasn't also being continually tested for other conditions as well? I don't believe it's unusual if someone is ill and not getting better, to get multiple tests until a result is achieved or they recover fully. I'm thinking specifically of autoimmune conditions (like Lymes) where it takes multiple tests…

I don't know if the official advice has changed in the US yet, but I remember on TWiV recently they said that the original 2 week buffer was out of an abundance of caution as there was no data, and at this point they don't see any need. Someone had written in because they were leaving the country, had to get one vaccine…

Unfortunately, testing numbers have also gone down, so I don't think we are going to get good data on case numbers, which is a shame. Considering we have no idea yet how a mild case affects your health long term, it seems like it'd be useful data to have. But the goal seems to be return to "normal", even if that means we…

Thanks :smile: The ER doctor in NYC who does weekly updates on TWIV has expressed concern that he sees patients in his hospital that were not treated correctly by their primary care or urgent care office when they first showed symptoms, especially not treating with monoclonal antibodies ASAP. I think those of us who are…

When talking about possible vaccine reactions, I think it's important to remember two things, each kind of supporting opposite sides. First, not every doctor is an expert, or even understands, virology and vaccine science. And since covid-19 is new, even doctors who have some knowledge of viruses can be no better educated…