bulletproof coffee FAIL
bluefish86
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Yesterday I tried bulletproof coffee for the first time (well, bulletproof tea really as I don't have a coffee maker at home). It looked and smelled amazing... so I banged back very quickly and almost immediately I got the feeling that I was going to **** myself. For the next 3-4 hours I was incredibly nauseated and had a wicked migraine. It was like the worst hangover ever.
Then the nausea passed and I suddenly felt amazing. Like, really amazing. Almost euphoric! I felt like I was a furnace that had just been refueled... I had so much energy, and I wasn't even hungry until almost 3:00pm!
It was only because of this extremely positive after-effect that I decided to try it again today (cautiously). This time I used tea that was not brewed as long I halved the amount of coconut oil I used (as I've heard that can have a laxative effect). I drank slowly, making sure I was really listening to my body for any of the nasty effects I experienced yesterday. This time, I had no upset stomach, no migraine... the only problem is I was starving by 10:30am! I also don't seem to have the same energy level as before.
Was it a placebo effect? A fluke?
I am very curious to see if anyone has had any similar experiences and/or advice. I am trying to get my fat % up and this seems like a good way to do it... I'm just clearly doing it wrong! LOL
Then the nausea passed and I suddenly felt amazing. Like, really amazing. Almost euphoric! I felt like I was a furnace that had just been refueled... I had so much energy, and I wasn't even hungry until almost 3:00pm!
It was only because of this extremely positive after-effect that I decided to try it again today (cautiously). This time I used tea that was not brewed as long I halved the amount of coconut oil I used (as I've heard that can have a laxative effect). I drank slowly, making sure I was really listening to my body for any of the nasty effects I experienced yesterday. This time, I had no upset stomach, no migraine... the only problem is I was starving by 10:30am! I also don't seem to have the same energy level as before.
Was it a placebo effect? A fluke?
I am very curious to see if anyone has had any similar experiences and/or advice. I am trying to get my fat % up and this seems like a good way to do it... I'm just clearly doing it wrong! LOL
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Oh gosh, that doesn't sound a fun experience. I drink instant coffee with coconut *milk* in it. Is instant coffee an option for you? I have had coconut milk in tea and it's not all that brilliant. I'm imagining that coconut oil would be worse still.
It takes a little while to learn how to easily reach your macros each day so don't get too worried. Butter or cream or coconut milk/cream can be nice additions to add to other foods as well.
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I have heard several times that coconut oil can make you feel nauseated if you are not used to it. I had the same problem....minus the 'furnace'. Haven't tried Bulletproof coffee for that reason but I have read you can add quarter the amount then build up your tolerance. I just prefer putting butter on everything,lol.
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I can do instant, I just prefer to wait until I'm at work so I can have my Timmy Ho Ho's!
I'm thinking of maybe adding some full-fat cream but I'm having trouble finding some that is grass fed.
More butter is pretty much my answer for anything and everything.
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I do instant and any cream I can get here (Dubai) that doesn't have thickeners added. Nothing as sophisticated and natural as grass fed anything here! Lol. We do have Timmy Ho Ho ' though if you mean Tim Hortons???
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jumanajane wrote: »We do have Timmy Ho Ho ' though if you mean Tim Hortons???
Yes, I absolutely do. 0 -
You changed too many things at once. You probably drank it too fast which is why you felt sick. Try the original amounts and drink it slowly and see what happens.0
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Did you try it with butter in it ? I don't put heavy cream in my BPC, just 1 part MCT oil and 2 parts unsalted butter. Maybe you're not used to the coconut oil ?
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Originally I used about 25g of butter, 1 tbsp of coconut oil per 500ml brewed tea.... today I only used 1/2 tbsp of coconut oil because that's what I suspected made me feel so ill. In retrospect, it was probably not the best idea to chug it like a sports drink.0
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bluefish86 wrote: »Yesterday I tried bulletproof coffee for the first time (well, bulletproof tea really as I don't have a coffee maker at home). It looked and smelled amazing... so I banged back very quickly and almost immediately I got the feeling that I was going to **** myself. For the next 3-4 hours I was incredibly nauseated and had a wicked migraine. It was like the worst hangover ever.
Then the nausea passed and I suddenly felt amazing. Like, really amazing. Almost euphoric! I felt like I was a furnace that had just been refueled... I had so much energy, and I wasn't even hungry until almost 3:00pm!
It was only because of this extremely positive after-effect that I decided to try it again today (cautiously). This time I used tea that was not brewed as long I halved the amount of coconut oil I used (as I've heard that can have a laxative effect). I drank slowly, making sure I was really listening to my body for any of the nasty effects I experienced yesterday. This time, I had no upset stomach, no migraine... the only problem is I was starving by 10:30am! I also don't seem to have the same energy level as before.
Was it a placebo effect? A fluke?
I am very curious to see if anyone has had any similar experiences and/or advice. I am trying to get my fat % up and this seems like a good way to do it... I'm just clearly doing it wrong! LOL
It took me a good week to two to really get used to it. I was used to EATING my breakfast... Once I balanced everything out, it helped. I notice that if I drink some broth or just have a little salt straight an hour or two after my bullet proof tea, it keeps me feeling full and staving off that hungry feeling. I think it is just the electrolytes tipping out of balance from more fluids and without sodium, and I'm SOOO not putting salt in my tea.
I drink my tea pretty quickly now, but I've been drinking it a couple months. I didn't like the butter in it (though it is fabulous in broth), so I do 1-2 TBSP of coconut oil (usually aiming for 1 TBSP, but difficult to measure at work, so it's an estimate) with 4 TBSP of heavy whipping cream. I brew my tea double strength (two tea bags in 12-15 oz water), and use one packet of powdered stevia (just enough to take that edge off the tannins), so it is about 4.5 grams of carbs...but I'm generally not hungry until lunch - and if I am, I just have some salty and fatty goodness, and I'm right as rain.
When I first started, I tried gradually upping my coconut oil quickly, and that was bad. I had to step it back down and only up it a little here or there. I used to use 3 oz of HWC, and I'm going to cut that back even more (didn't like the coconut oil I tried), but there is a line on the measuring stuff I use that is easier for "on the go" and I honestly just keep forgetting to nudge back.
I have noticed something, though. I can't have anything with vinegar within an hour or two either side of anything with coconut oil - it has me sprinting for the bathroom... (Pickles used to be my go-to salt boost.) And coconut oil is a great fuel/energy boost. 0 -
I keep hearing about heavy whipping cream...hiw much fat does it have per 100ml? Here there is just "cream".0
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GrannyMayOz wrote: »
To my understanding, HWC and cream are the same thing, or may be the equivalent to what many refer to as "double cream." We also have a "light cream," as well as half & half (because heaven forbid we just have cream and milk).0 -
Maybe try adding an egg or two with the BPC. It helped me with the nausea I first felt when I tried it. Basically pairing it with a bit of protein.0
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Maybe try adding an egg or two with the BPC. It helped me with the nausea I first felt when I tried it. Basically pairing it with a bit of protein.
I did this, too, for a bit - pairing it with food - but I only have to do that now on HUNGRY days. But it definitely eased the adjustment. 0 -
popsugar.com/food/Difference-Between-Heavy-Cream-Whipping-Cream-13491580
https://google.com/#q=heavy+whipping+cream+nutrition
At Wal-Mart in Murray KY the house brand is $4 per quart (32 oz.) which is about 3200 calories per quart. It is 36% or > butter fat by law. Drinking it straight tastes like the boiled custard that we can get around Christmas time from the milk case.
Half and Half milk has about a 1/3 if the calories/fat as Heavy Whipping cream. A cup of plain coffee with 10 to the 15 g/1 tablespoon little creamer cups will give one about 200 calories of mainly fat which can be a cheap snack at McDonalds.0 -
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As a kid the eggs were always raw but cooking the mix with the eggs mixed in at 160-180 F degrees is recommended to make the eggs safe from bacteria.0
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GaleHawkins wrote: »As a kid the eggs were always raw but cooking the mix with the eggs mixed in at 160-180 F degrees is recommended to make the eggs safe from bacteria.
The coffee is generally brewed at that temperature (160-185F), so the act of mixing the coffee and the egg, while the coffee is still hot will do it. As an added bonus, that slight cook will denature the avidin in the egg white, so it no longer prevents biotin absorption.
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-egg-coffee/
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-egg-coffee-frappe/
That said, you're more likely to pick up salmonella from your tomatoes than you are from eggs, anyway. http://www.medicaldaily.com/salmonella-food-poisoning-most-common-vegetables-not-meat-3250700 -
Dragonwolf wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »As a kid the eggs were always raw but cooking the mix with the eggs mixed in at 160-180 F degrees is recommended to make the eggs safe from bacteria.
The coffee is generally brewed at that temperature (160-185F), so the act of mixing the coffee and the egg, while the coffee is still hot will do it. As an added bonus, that slight cook will denature the avidin in the egg white, so it no longer prevents biotin absorption.
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-egg-coffee/
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-egg-coffee-frappe/
That said, you're more likely to pick up salmonella from your tomatoes than you are from eggs, anyway. http://www.medicaldaily.com/salmonella-food-poisoning-most-common-vegetables-not-meat-325070
Any suggestions on common brands of pasteurized eggs? I though Eggsland's Best were, but it wasn't on the carton anywhere...0 -
Adding egg would negate the insulin-sparing effects of original recipe butter+MCT BPC.0
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I make a double in the morning. Pod coffee, butter and only sometimes coconut oil. Blended til it's really frothy. I drink one at home and put the rest in my flask for mid morning. It's about 350 cals for both (if you care about cals) and it keeps me from being hungry until I get home from work at about 1pm. I used to use cream, but I've discovered you don't need it, the butter when whipped is creamy enough. Oh, and I use salted butter. I used to use unsalted, but one day I ran out and the salted is actually really good. Better even.0
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Adding egg would negate the insulin-sparing effects of original recipe butter+MCT BPC.
Caffeine itself can raise insulin levels, so...yeah...
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I would suggest getting a french press if you are opposed to getting a coffee machine. I don't think I could stomach putting that much fat into tea. By the way, even with tea you are supposed to put it in a blender with the fat and blend it. Not sure if you are doing that or not? I use organic coffee brewed strong, 1-2 tablespoons butter, 1 tablespoon unrefined organic coconut oil, and 1 tablespoon MCT oil blended until I get a froth on top.
Nausea can be pretty common at first. our body has to get used to running off of fat instead of carbs and sometimes that transition isn't pleasant. If you find that you are still hungry try pairing your coffee with a bit of protein. Eat a slice of cheese or make an egg or two until you get used to it.0 -
Maikanyenga wrote: »
I meant on the side. lol. Sorry for the confusion!0 -
I have used BPC off and on, I go through spurts... they suggest you build up the coconut oil over a few days to weeks, as some folks can be sensitive to it. I have used up to tbsp of coconut oil without issue, but I built up to that.
I like to add natural vanilla and a little organic cacao powder sometimes, like a healthy mocha! 0 -
For people outside the US, the fat content of creams available can vary quite widely from the US standard (which tends to be on the low side) because they are set individually by country, but generally HWC=Double Cream, which in both cases is the go-to cream for whipping due to it's higher fat content. Single cream is fine if you're not whipping, and it's best to do a search for all the creams available in your area to determine what's what--the range can vary a surprisingly high amount. One of the biggest suppliers in my area, for example, has a single cream that's just a hair under the standards for double cream, and is perfect. Otherwise I'm stuck paying out the nose for (admittedly amazing) organic double cream which is seasonally produced and often difficult to find as they are a small company and their restaurant distribution takes priority.0
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Every now and then when I am pressed for time, I make my own version of egg coffee, just like I make my BPC but with a raw egg blended in with it. You can't really tell that the egg is there. Some people put sweeteners or flavours like cinnamon and vanilla in with it, and I used to make it kind of like a cross between eggnog and a latte, but now I just like it plain, with egg, butter and MCT oil.0
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Now I'm confused. I thought coconut oil was MCT oil. What is? I've been using 1tbsp butter, 1tbsp coconut oil, & 1 tbsp cream & 1/4 packet Splenda or stevia. Is there another oil I need to add?0
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No you're OK with what you are using. MCT oil is coconut oil, and it is a liquid. I also buy coconut oil in a jar and it is solid in our climate, only becomes liquid in the heat. I use the liquid kind in my coffee, and I don't notice a coconut flavour. My solid coconut oil has a coconut aroma and flavour, but you could use that in your coffee, either one will do.0
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Thanks Kitnthecat. Noticed solid stuff today at Sobeys, didn't know what the difference was tho.0
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