Five Days Dairy Free - 4th to 8th May (and beyond if it works!)
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They speak Yiddish in South Africa?0
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Isn't Yiddish 'Oi, oi, oi'? The South African version sounds more like 'iy, iy, iy' I suppose. If you haven't seen the film 'The Gods Must Be Crazy' do yourself a favour and try to get hold of it. Best film ever IMHO. It's G-rated too, and then you'll know aaaalll about how, and when, to say it
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Oh my gosh, the Gods must be crazy is FUNNY haven't seen it in yonks.
Weight wise, I didn't get a Monday reading, but will go by last Saturday's and this Saturday's. I'm also thinking less dairy might be good for my eczema? My legs have had constant irritation for the last 5 years. It just won't go however much steroid cream I use. It subsides a but then flares right up. Though to be fair my blood sugar was raised for most of those 5 years and being a t2 didn't help with healing. So it's been No summer skirts for me
I must say, I'm missing cheese
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@Spush, I know, I just *love* that film! Not to give anything away to others, but those hills on the way to and from collecting the teacher and then 'Where's the anti-christ?'. The whole thing is genius.
I believe passing dairy is good for eczema, sure I've read that somewhere. I hope it brings you some relief. In fact, lots of relief and get rid of the steroid cream forever, wouldn't that be fantastic? Now you mention it, David used to have to use that sometimes between his eyebrows, but he hasn't used it for so long it's expired.0 -
Well, I'm feeling free to eat cheese. This is day 5 for me, and no loss. I'm not really surprised; I haven't lost anything new since March. I keep thinking I must be doing something wrong that prevents any loss. It doesn't make sense to me that I'm eating below what it supposedly takes my body to function and I'm still not losing anything or even getting smaller.0
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Cook your bacon on low. If you can't walk away from it (or if you need a splatter shield) your burner is up too high. I used to do this all the time, then tried it on "2" on my stove top and wow what a difference. Just flip it over frequently. So glad I don't have to make a mess of the stove top anymore!
For cooking your eggs in a fry pan, you don't have to flip them. Just put a lid on the pan after you put them in and have added your salt and pepper. The whites will cook on both sides. Again, unless you love your whites crispy and your yolks solid, cook it low and slow baby.0 -
@Wheatless I wonder if having a high calorie day would kick start something for you? I've been considering it myself but don't know if I dare. What do you think - I'm game if you are. I think. Eeeekk!
@octobubbles I'll do that if I ever have to cook by myself again. I used to cook well enough, but I gave it up 8 years ago and am now completely hopeless. David usually pops the yolk and then turns the egg.
I added some butter tonight otherwise I would have been finishing the day with 56 grams of fat. I'm happy with butter added that this is sustainable, so I'll carry on with no cheese or cream for a bit longer.0 -
@GrannyMayOz Whooo. I've thought about that too. Dare we? Feels like jumping off a cliff. Without a parachute. But hey, at this point I'll try anything. Desperation demands action. What's the game plan?
Any savvy smart people want to advise us?0 -
Fully agree with all you've said, including 'what's the game plan'. I've no idea.wheatlessgirl66 wrote: »@GrannyMayOz Whooo. I've thought about that too. Dare we? Feels like jumping off a cliff. Without a parachute. But hey, at this point I'll try anything. Desperation demands action. What's the game plan?
Yes please!!!!! Should we start a new thread to ask a wider audience than this thread is receiving? If yes, are you happy for anyone to look at your diary so they can see what we've been eating until now? Is it open for everyone to view?wheatlessgirl66 wrote: »Any savvy smart people want to advise us?
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Yep, my diary is open. Everyone can have at it!0
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The Gods Must be Crazy was a wonderful film !
Day 1 - 98.7 / 217.14
Day 2 - 97.3 / 214.06
Day 3 - 97.1 / 213.62
Day 4 - 96.5 / 212.3
I'm liking this.......I think I will keep parts of this strategy as part of my normal routine. MY BPC isn't the same at work though, without my immersion blender...unless I get a cheap one for work to try to incorporate the butter better.
I do not miss the cheese yet, or the yogourt, and I'm glad to see I can make it without cream for my coffee as long as I have butter. It's the coffee issue. Maybe if I have my BPC at home, then I could incorporate a bit of cream for the work coffee only and see what happens. I think I was overdoing it on the cream, since I'd put it in my 3 big cups of coffee , then make a cream sauce or soup for supper quite often.
I was over in my calories yesterday since my daughter made a vanilla pudding with a can of coconut milk, egg yolks, some xylitol and some vanilla bean...delicious. We love to cook at my house, so it's my fear that there may be too much to eat at any given time at home, especially if I come home from work and something that I hadn't counted on is prepared and looking at me, calling from the fridge... But in this case, my plan to lose weight still came through even though I ate more than normal.
I have noticed a change in bathroom habits this week and I am more "regular" this week, so maybe the cheese constipation connection theory is correct. Or maybe the extra coconut products and avocado I have been eating are helping in that department. It's very interesting anyway.0 -
@Kitn oh, that's fantastic, wow!!! I'm so pleased you're doing so well. It's good to know that someone is LOL Keep up the great work, and I love that you're fine-tuning what works for you, in so many ways!!!0
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^^^^^This, Kitn---Really, really great!0
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Thanks ladies. You know, I'm not getting too excited yet. April had so many highs and lows and so many special occasions, and after going up and down all month, I still haven't reached the low I reached April 18 of 96.1 / 211.42. So in my mind, I'm still trying to catch up. It could be that 96.1 was a fluke, I really can't remember anything special about what lead up to that. I had lost 13-14 pounds in March, so to only have a net loss of 0.6 kg for April, I have a strong desire to get back on track.
It really does feel very freeing to try these different strategies, while removing myself from all the emotional stuff....the worrying I used to subject myself to while trying to lose weight, beating myself up etc. It is so interesting, I am really enjoying it. And now I do feel that I have a few more strategies in my bag of tricks, to help kick start things again.
I will be going out for very fancy Mother's day brunch on Sunday, so don;t be surprised to see my weight jump back up on Monday. But after that I think I'll just get right back on track.
http://www.thegatesonroblin.com/downloads/Brunch.pdf
I'll start with the shrimp and mussels with the beautiful marinated veggies, then move on to the omelet made to my liking, with bacon and sausages, smoked salmon and cream cheese, and then try to keep myself away from the dark chocolate fountain and strawberries. It is a beautiful brunch and I intend to enjoy it, but do not have any of the starchy things anymore.0 -
Here's a yummy dairy free recipe for those doing this. Enjoy!
http://paleogrubs.com/skillet-chicken-recipe0 -
@Kitn Well I surely hope for you that the weight stays gone and takes its friends with it! That brunch looks spectacular. Enjoy!
@lizziewonka thank you very much, that does look very tasty!0 -
awesome results @Kitnthecat - I wish! I am back down the .5 I was up yesterday so the same weight since weigh in. A nice NSV this a.m. though - was heading out to a doctors appt and the weather is to be in the 80's so I went and tried on some of my dress shorts and shorts that I could NOT take on my Mexico trip in January fit like a charm...yippee.
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Cross posting this to the 'Two Ladies' thread as well...
It looks *really* odd seeing a 40 in my carb goal column instead of the <15 that it's had in there since January, but here goes. Probably going to have to buy some sweet potato or rice, which will thrill David to bits, he's been missing them. Or maybe extra onion, capsicum (peppers) and tomato. Have been limiting onion to half a small one for so long ha ha!
Oh and I had butter yesterday, as well as a decent night's sleep after 3 that were a bit short. Back down 500 grams (1.1 lbs) of the weight I'd gained in the past 2 weeks. Was it the sleep? Was it the continuing lack of cheese and cream? Was it the addition of the butter? Far too many options, and to reproduce each in turn... well, life's too short even for this statistics-lover 0 -
@May Glad you went back down again! I agree that it is odd to see 40 as the carb goal. I didn't get that far yesterday, but it's better to increase in increments anyway. No loss for me, so I'm concluding that dairy can be back on my plate.
I wish eliminating it had been the answer, but kind of glad I can eat a little without gaining. 0 -
wheatlessgirl66 wrote: »@May Glad you went back down again! I agree that it is odd to see 40 as the carb goal. I didn't get that far yesterday, but it's better to increase in increments anyway. No loss for me, so I'm concluding that dairy can be back on my plate. I wish eliminating it had been the answer, but kind of glad I can eat a little without gaining.
Concluding anything after just a short time span is a gamble. But up to you how to fix your issues For example when someone has non-alcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFL) it can take up to several months depleting that organ fat, before other metabolic processes work properly again.
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Foamroller wrote: »
Concluding anything after just a short time span is a gamble. But up to you how to fix your issues For example when someone has non-alcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFL) it can take up to several months depleting that organ fat, before other metabolic processes work properly again.
I'm thinking I have no idea how complex this weight loss/health business is...How in the world does a simple person like me know exactly how to get it right.0 -
Everything is trial and error, I think. There may be so many more factors that we haven't even considered. I think I'm getting more analytical, yet more confident and calmer about it all. And I'm finally back to my low weight from last month. It's taken me almost 3 weeks to do it. So whichever right thing I have been doing this week, I want to keep doing it, especially when stalled. I think the most important lesson I have learned is to keep going even if I have a bad day....just keep swimming...
My high weight on Day 1 was the result of indulging on my birthday, because 2 days before that weight, I was at 96.7, almost at the point of getting back on track. It's very interesting for me to watch what happens if I eat a bit of sugar or more veggies....2 kg gained ! I think the weight I lost this week was recovery from the birthday gain, because after all, I had already supposedly lost that weight.
Day 1 - 98.7 / 217.14
Day 2 - 97.3 / 214.06
Day 3 - 97.1 / 213.62
Day 4 - 96.5 / 212.3
Day 5 - 96.1 / 211.42
Now at this point I'm back at square one. I just had a big breakfast which will carry me all day I hope, because I'd like to fast until tomorrow's supper of roast chicken. I'm in training for the brunch on Sunday. Yikes, hope I won't be back at the starting point again. I'll let you know how it goes.0 -
Looks great, @Kitnthecat! Just keep swimming is a good motto; that's what it boils down to. (My pessimistic side says, yeah--but it doesn't take much for the nose to slip under the water...) We might see the effects of increased carbs rather quickly, but then again, who knows. I'm re-reading Volek and Phinney's book and am reassured about the raise to 40. Will see if my body agrees.
Have a lovely brunch on Sunday! Happy Mother's Day!0 -
@Wheatless 11 hours from now I’ll know if I have any First Day results LOL Somehow or another I’ve had 41g carbs today. Net. I always use net, so I shouldn’t worry too much. Struggling with keeping the fat high though, through lack of logging brunch until after I ate it. I should have had butter on top.
@Foamroller Speaking for myself, the results last time I went dairy free (for only 5 days) seemed very fast and positive so I was hoping for a repeat performance, which didn’t happen. Obviously it was a slim hope, but worth a shot LOL Thank you for keeping us on the path of truth though.
@Kitn my goodness, you’re the shining star here, well done!!! I hope it stays gone for you.
I’ve remained free of any dairy except butter (which I haven’t had yet, but will shortly) today, but any result tomorrow could now be impacted by the raised carb level so there’s no way I can draw any conclusions about the dairy free challenge. Today was to have been the last day anyway so, for me, I’m declaring my scientific conclusion of ‘I haven’t got a clue!’ and backing away quietly into the forest
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I am down again.5 but if things stay true to form, I'll find it for tomorrow's weigh in, lol....so for the week, down .5
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@GrannyMayOz Fingers cross for you, hoping for a lower number for you in the morning---knowing that patience might be the order of the day. How did it feel to eat 41 carbs? It's kind of a big adjustment I think. I'm so used to not eating them, I don't even think about including very many.
"Backing away quietly into the forest..." LOL! Love it.
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Hi @happylife I'm glad that you had a weight loss, though it would have been wonderful if it was about ten times that. Still, downwards by any degree is a good thing
@wheatless Thank you, I hope so too. The extra carbs were surprisingly easy to spend. I got some sweet potato and had some with brunch and some after dinner and they were gone! I could actually have a coffee while we're out tomorrow even though I know that cow juice or soy milk aren't ideal.0 -
I'm watching you, GMO. Caffeine increases cortisol. Don't do it! And go to sleep already! 0
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sorry. thought i was on skype.0
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I'm watching you, GMO. Caffeine increases cortisol. Don't do it! And go to sleep already!
Sentence one - eeeeek!
Sentence two - curses! It's my one treat. It's instant coffee, and weak.
Sentence three - mumble, rumble, grumble.
Sentence four - almost. The Man got home from work at 1am and we're just sharing a... *whistles skywards* and will then send up zzzzzs
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