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I don't believe the good doctor is coming back! My father is type 2 diabetic and has struggled with trying to keep his blood sugar under 150 (fasting) for a long time. He also takes statins, suffering the muscle pain that can be a side effect. He stopped the statins and his fasting blood sugars have been in the 70s and 80s! THAT IS REAL!!! "Good doctor" could really help some people if he wanted to! Big Pharma, big insurance be dam~€©¡¡.
That makes me really sad. The idea of another doctor willing to go against the grain a bit to guide and empower patients to achieve better health and not just pop another pill washed down with their soda or "healthy" juice is exciting.
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When one is in great health with great HDL and triglycerides levels total cholesterol can float where it may based on my research and personal view.0
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He's doing what most do, sticking his head in the sand and ignoring the results in front of him! Typical. More worried about malpractice lawsuits than his patients apparently, sorry "good doctor" if you return! Those of us in the medical profession are supposed to help people. Inform yourself!0
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Let's not jump to conclusions. Even he said he's seen the failure of following the recommended "good" advice with his own medical experience. This is a whole lot of new information to assess and digest. It could be that he's giving it a fair investigation and looking into it for himself. We can't expect someone to just flip to the exact opposite position just because a bunch of people on the internet say so.
If anything, he needs to consider it for his own health first.0 -
As I ended with he needs to "Inform himself". Believe me, I know physicians are technically the "middle man". Their regulations and guides they have to follow are amazing! The insurance companies, and now government, have taken true autonomous patient care out of their hands. I hope he is choosing to educate himself more on this topic so his patients may possibly benefit. I came across harsh, and I apologize for that. It's a exciting to see a physician actually asking questions about this woe and " pouncing" is hard to control. I truly hope he is watching!
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GaleHawkins wrote: »When one is in great health with great HDL and triglycerides levels total cholesterol can float where it may based on my research and personal view.
I only find ranges when I look for these numbers. What are "great" numbers considered to be?
Trigs - 76
HDL - 50 (why is 60 the upper range here? I thought the more HDL we had the better??)
Ugh, cholesterol is so complicated!
And yes, because of the ratio between those two, I wasn't as worried about my total cholesterol or LDL levels...0 -
KnitOrMiss wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »When one is in great health with great HDL and triglycerides levels total cholesterol can float where it may based on my research and personal view.
I only find ranges when I look for these numbers. What are "great" numbers considered to be?
Trigs - 76
HDL - 50 (why is 60 the upper range here? I thought the more HDL we had the better??)
Ugh, cholesterol is so complicated!
And yes, because of the ratio between those two, I wasn't as worried about my total cholesterol or LDL levels...
There is a limit where too much HDL is still too much, but I think it's actually like 100+, 60 is a decent buffer and one of those "most people won't hit that" things, I think. I could be mistaken, though.
On another note, you all might be interested in following Dr. Eric Topol. He's been working on disrupting the current status quo of medicine from the inside and believes the future of medicine will be more patient centric, which is cool. He's still got some conventional mindsets, but what he's doing is still really cool.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/books/review/the-patient-will-see-you-now-by-eric-topol.html0 -
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And now the politics comes in. :-/
But turnabout is fair play.
These kind of forums are not terribly friendly to the 'overall' medical profession, and would be places "where angels fear to tread'.
It would take considerable cajoness to identify yourself as a doctor or nutritionist on these forums.
Apologies sir, for any conclusion jumping and tar and feathering. This bunch has had a pretty tough rodeo with our health, and getting one's life back makes for strong opinions.0 -
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Apology accepted.
Now regarding the "overall" medical profession, be assured that my PCP will be getting an earful regarding my experience with LCHF diet and DM2. He will also receive the books "Blood Sugar 101" and "Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution: The Complete Guide to Achieving Normal Blood Sugars".
So, so glad to hear that this WOE is gaining interest of some in the medical community. I am glad we have doctors who are open-minded to look into the efficacy of something that goes so much against the traditional grain. I wish I could've gotten a good doctor when I was younger instead of getting someone who told me for years that my symptoms were in my head and refused to run tests because he thought he knew better.0 -
Apology accepted.
Now regarding the "overall" medical profession, be assured that my PCP will be getting an earful regarding my experience with LCHF diet and DM2. He will also receive the books "Blood Sugar 101" and "Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution: The Complete Guide to Achieving Normal Blood Sugars".
:-) Where is that ginormous smiley button?!?!0 -
Passion about a topic is hard to tone down. Gaining my life back (I'm an RN who has been unable to work for ten years) causes that. I'm returning to work! Lchf/keto did that for me. I have an application to an outpatient surgery center and should have an interview within a week! I never dreamed I would get here! I didn't begin this woe for health. I thought it was to lose weight. So the improvements have been totally unexpected, but so exciting. I will try to reign it in a bit though. Thanks for coming back! It's great to have you here! 0
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I guess you missed where I said I'd OFFER a statin before you went on your rant. Teabagger per chance?
1. Ad hominem attacks are against the rules of both MFP and this group.
2. It's probably not a good idea to level such an attack against a moderator (not that you should be leveling such attacks at anyone to begin with, but toward a mod just seems especially bad).
3. You're still very quick to suggest/offer/consider statins off of a single number, which I do honestly find disturbing. That said, my "rant" was less about you in particular and more about the state of the healthcare industry (of which you and other doctors are victims almost as much as the patients are, and your actions are but a symptom of the larger problem, for all of the reasons already mentioned and more). The other items were things I thought you'd be interested in, nothing more.0 -
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MD's can be caught between a rock and hard place when treating today. I know the LCHF community under the radar for the most part yet today.0
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@Dragonwolf. Since you attacked me first. Unprovoked. A simple apology would have been far more appropriate than your rant about ad hominim attacks etc.
Don't be a hater.
I don't see anywhere where @Dragonwolf attacked or insulted you.
She doesn't need to apologize to you for commenting on the issue. Expressing that she disagreed with you is not a personal attack. Calling someone a name, intending to call into question the person's character in the doing (ad hominem), and making insulting comments is considered a personal attack, and that's not mentioning the rudeness in your tone. We don't do that here. We are here to discuss and support. We won't always agree, but we will be respectful in the disagreeing.
Personal attacks DO violate site community guidelines as can be read here: http://myfitnesspal.com/welcome/guidelines1. No Attacks or Insults and No Reciprocation
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I participate here to learn and contribute. I apologize to any and all. Yes. I was guilty of advising and following bad nutritional and dietary strategies. I was also guilty of propagating ideas that are frankly harmful.
This and the DM2 boards have taught me a lot and have given me hope. In one month my FBG has gone from the mid-120s to the low 80s.I'm beginner but I talk to every patient I can who will listen to me. I've already generated a lot of interest among them and physicians I come in contact with. I write about it in Facebook.
Hey you are on the right track and will continue to help others see the light. You are in the position to help many yet you want to operate in a way that does not make your liability insurance carrier stressed out.
I have been studying very LCHF hard for over a year now and grasping the science behind it is hard for me. Yes I get it all figured out then learn of some new research that questions my position so it is back to the drawing board.
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Btw: I want to personally apologise to the OP for the thread hijacking! Your labs look great! Keep it up! 0
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Talk about the redrawing the drawing board. Until a short while ago, I was personally convinced that no matter how low my BG would go with my LCHF diet, I would always take my metformin, baby aspirin, ARB, statin, and CoQ10 until I die.
I'm now hopeful that I'll be able to eliminate all of them. This is despite having DM2 for 11 years. Wow!
For me the science is easy to understand. I've also found it very easy to go from a low fat high carbs and protein 20/40/40 (f/c/p) Pritikin-like diet to a LCHF 60/20/20 Adkins-like diet.
I can't wait to see what happens to my A1c, lipid panel, liver function tests, and urine analysis protein test over the next year.
I'm glad you're here. It's good to have a different view of things. I feel like everyone ganged up on you and I'm sure that wasn't the intention. Can't we all just get along???!!!0
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