Getting Enough Fiber
lithezebra
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For those of you who consider fiber important, what are your favorite ways to get enough of it on a low carb diet?
I just discovered sauerkraut, high in fiber, low in sugar, and I'm going to look into kimchee as soon as I can get to an Asian market.
I just discovered sauerkraut, high in fiber, low in sugar, and I'm going to look into kimchee as soon as I can get to an Asian market.
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I noticed that a serving of Metamucil actually isn't too high carb. I think it was 4 or 5 carbs. I don't have a problem with a low fiber diet though so I haven't needed to utilize its "assistance."0
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Yes, sauerkraut and kimchee are definitely the way to go for fermented fiber and sodium!
If you want your own bacteria to do the fermenting, Perlmutter recommends FODMAPs -- asparagus, artichokes, onions, leek, garlic, legumes, etc.
I'm not picky. Any fibrous veggies will do for me, but I'm trying to increase sodium, so the pre-fermented stuff is on my list.0 -
Yes, sauerkraut and kimchee are definitely the way to go for fermented fiber and sodium!
If you want your own bacteria to do the fermenting, Perlmutter recommends FODMAPs -- asparagus, artichokes, onions, leek, garlic, legumes, etc.
I'm not picky. Any fibrous veggies will do for me, but I'm trying to increase sodium, so the pre-fermented stuff is on my list.
I do want to feed my micro-beasties, and keep them healthy! I've been eating artichokes....asparagus is definitely going on the menu.
Yeah, I got the sauerkraut for the salt, and then noticed the high fiber and lack of sugar.
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lithezebra wrote: »Yes, sauerkraut and kimchee are definitely the way to go for fermented fiber and sodium!
If you want your own bacteria to do the fermenting, Perlmutter recommends FODMAPs -- asparagus, artichokes, onions, leek, garlic, legumes, etc.
I'm not picky. Any fibrous veggies will do for me, but I'm trying to increase sodium, so the pre-fermented stuff is on my list.
I do want to feed my micro-beasties, and keep them healthy! I've been eating artichokes....asparagus is definitely going on the menu.
Yeah, I got the sauerkraut for the salt, and then noticed the high fiber and lack of sugar.
Love sauerkraut too. Coconut flakes, celery and almonds are dailies for me. Fiber runs about 50% of the carb count on these.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »lithezebra wrote: »Yes, sauerkraut and kimchee are definitely the way to go for fermented fiber and sodium!
If you want your own bacteria to do the fermenting, Perlmutter recommends FODMAPs -- asparagus, artichokes, onions, leek, garlic, legumes, etc.
I'm not picky. Any fibrous veggies will do for me, but I'm trying to increase sodium, so the pre-fermented stuff is on my list.
I do want to feed my micro-beasties, and keep them healthy! I've been eating artichokes....asparagus is definitely going on the menu.
Yeah, I got the sauerkraut for the salt, and then noticed the high fiber and lack of sugar.
Love sauerkraut too. Coconut flakes, celery and almonds are dailies for me. Fiber runs about 50% of the carb count on these.
How do you use the coconut flakes, just have them plain, or do you add them to other dishes?
PS I just remembered that I have a great Indian green bean recipe with coconut.0 -
lithezebra wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »lithezebra wrote: »Yes, sauerkraut and kimchee are definitely the way to go for fermented fiber and sodium!
If you want your own bacteria to do the fermenting, Perlmutter recommends FODMAPs -- asparagus, artichokes, onions, leek, garlic, legumes, etc.
I'm not picky. Any fibrous veggies will do for me, but I'm trying to increase sodium, so the pre-fermented stuff is on my list.
I do want to feed my micro-beasties, and keep them healthy! I've been eating artichokes....asparagus is definitely going on the menu.
Yeah, I got the sauerkraut for the salt, and then noticed the high fiber and lack of sugar.
Love sauerkraut too. Coconut flakes, celery and almonds are dailies for me. Fiber runs about 50% of the carb count on these.
How do you use the coconut flakes, just have them plain, or do you add them to other dishes?
PS I just remembered that I have a great Indian green bean recipe with coconut.
I have used coconut flake as part of a crust for "breaded" baked meats--like chicken tenders. Do an egg wash, mix together coconut flakes with almond flour, crushed chicharrones, and spices to use as the crust. Pretty darn tasty!0 -
I eat them for snacks!
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I have the same concern with fibre... I haven't started low carbing yet, but i HAVE to aim for 35g minimum a day for the plumbing to work. I'm hoping the high fat content will give me the same results as high fibre...0
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lithezebra wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »lithezebra wrote: »Yes, sauerkraut and kimchee are definitely the way to go for fermented fiber and sodium!
If you want your own bacteria to do the fermenting, Perlmutter recommends FODMAPs -- asparagus, artichokes, onions, leek, garlic, legumes, etc.
I'm not picky. Any fibrous veggies will do for me, but I'm trying to increase sodium, so the pre-fermented stuff is on my list.
I do want to feed my micro-beasties, and keep them healthy! I've been eating artichokes....asparagus is definitely going on the menu.
Yeah, I got the sauerkraut for the salt, and then noticed the high fiber and lack of sugar.
Love sauerkraut too. Coconut flakes, celery and almonds are dailies for me. Fiber runs about 50% of the carb count on these.
How do you use the coconut flakes, just have them plain, or do you add them to other dishes?
PS I just remembered that I have a great Indian green bean recipe with coconut.
I just dump them in a bowl and eat with a spoon.
Drinking a gallon of water a day is as important as fiber I find. I just got into heavily into Wobenzymes enzymes and got reminded about the need for a lot of water.0 -
I treat Metamucil/psyllium as not real carbs and do not log them. I eat leafy salad greens with no dressing and raw jicama0
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Chia seeds - high in carbs yes - but equally high in fiber - so use in small amounts.0
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My strategy is low fiber, magnesium ascorbate and a very good probiotic. I learned that the hard way, you might say.
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I'm concerned about my gut microbes. I know that science has barely scratched the surface of human gut ecology, and I don't want to mess too much with a microbial community that has kept me in good health so far.0
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lithezebra wrote: »I'm concerned about my gut microbes. I know that science has barely scratched the surface of human gut ecology, and I don't want to mess too much with a microbial community that has kept me in good health so far.
That's why I've added in fermented foods to my regular consumption. For me, in particular, I'm using Kombucha. Grains and sugars actually destroy gut health, so I don't understand the logic of wanting to keep adding fiber, beyond veggies. Naturally fermented foods like sauerkraut, kimchi, kefir, etc., restore gut bacteria and balance, and it's a noticeable difference. Within the first day or two of starting slowly with the kombucha (naturally fermented tea), I could very clearly see and feel a difference...0 -
I eat fermented foods. There is a logic to eating a variety of carbs, such as soluble fiber, insoluble fiber, and some of the weird complex polysaccharides found in onions, for example, because those are things that gut microbes eat. Microbes that don't eat don't thrive. The caveat is that we don't yet know which microbes are good for you, and how to feed them selectively.
I still have to eat a small amount of wheat, rye or barley, regularly, until I have my small intestine biopsy in December to test for celiac disease, lest I get a false negative. After that, I'll experiment. There may be things in grains that are good for you. It's clear that a diet too heavy in grains is bad for a lot of people.0 -
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I don't really worry about fiber. I eat fermented food, like sauerkraut and pickles and in small quantities. Lately I've been on a mostly carnivorous diet (meat + dairy with very little veggies), but haven't had any digestion issues, which I like to attribute to my MCT oil consumption.0
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Today I'm dumping my "fiber baggage". Goodbye beans and avocados. If I need fiber I'll figure it out with a little help from my friends on this board.
I felt great eating a serving of beans everyday and not eating grains; that was the best digestion I've ever had. That's what I'm going back to if my ketosis experiment doesn't get the results I want.0 -
lithezebra wrote: »Today I'm dumping my "fiber baggage". Goodbye beans and avocados. If I need fiber I'll figure it out with a little help from my friends on this board.
I felt great eating a serving of beans everyday and not eating grains; that was the best digestion I've ever had. That's what I'm going back to if my ketosis experiment doesn't get the results I want.
It just goes to show how we're all different! I had a few black beans (green beans and I are friends) a couple weeks back, a couple days apart, and I was so blocked up. Wishing you success, in whatever form that comes.0 -
KnitOrMiss wrote: »lithezebra wrote: »I'm concerned about my gut microbes. I know that science has barely scratched the surface of human gut ecology, and I don't want to mess too much with a microbial community that has kept me in good health so far.
That's why I've added in fermented foods to my regular consumption. For me, in particular, I'm using Kombucha. Grains and sugars actually destroy gut health, so I don't understand the logic of wanting to keep adding fiber, beyond veggies. Naturally fermented foods like sauerkraut, kimchi, kefir, etc., restore gut bacteria and balance, and it's a noticeable difference. Within the first day or two of starting slowly with the kombucha (naturally fermented tea), I could very clearly see and feel a difference...
What kind of Kombucha tea do you drink....I see there is a Kombucha Green tea?0 -
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Time2LoseWeightNOW wrote: »
This is a useful article, on counting net carbs or total carbs. If you find that net carbs work for you, the avocado shouldn't be a problem. If you need to include fiber in your carbs to get the results you want, then you might want to skip avocado. Another variation would be to subtract insoluble fiber and count soluble fiber.....on the other hand insoluble fiber seems to lower blood sugar.
I'm eat avocados, for now, and counting net carbs, because I think vegetables and fiber have benefits beyond helping some people poop.
http://ketodietapp.com/Blog/post/2014/11/30/Total-Carbs-or-Net-Carbs-What-Really-Counts0 -
esaucier17 wrote: »KnitOrMiss wrote: »lithezebra wrote: »I'm concerned about my gut microbes. I know that science has barely scratched the surface of human gut ecology, and I don't want to mess too much with a microbial community that has kept me in good health so far.
That's why I've added in fermented foods to my regular consumption. For me, in particular, I'm using Kombucha. Grains and sugars actually destroy gut health, so I don't understand the logic of wanting to keep adding fiber, beyond veggies. Naturally fermented foods like sauerkraut, kimchi, kefir, etc., restore gut bacteria and balance, and it's a noticeable difference. Within the first day or two of starting slowly with the kombucha (naturally fermented tea), I could very clearly see and feel a difference...
What kind of Kombucha tea do you drink....I see there is a Kombucha Green tea?
I'm making my own at this point, but the only type I could get locally was GT brand. The Green one had spirulina and mess added to it and was hit and miss as far as how it tasted. You can use actual green tea to make it, etc. There are tons of other brands and flavors out there if you're closer to a health or organic store... I already prefer the flavor and probiotic punch of my homebrew far above and beyond what i could buy in the store, though, tbh. I'm still playing around with flavor profiles. LOL0 -
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Lamb shanks were on sale, which takes care of my protein deficiency for the day. They smell divine in the crock pot.0
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lithezebra wrote: »Lamb shanks were on sale, which takes care of my protein deficiency for the day. They smell divine in the crock pot.
That sounds yummy, do you have a recipe? I'm all kinds of short on time this weekend and would love an easy crock pot recipe.0 -
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This is a useful article, on counting net carbs or total carbs. If you find that net carbs work for you, the avocado shouldn't be a problem. If you need to include fiber in your carbs to get the results you want, then you might want to skip avocado. Another variation would be to subtract insoluble fiber and count soluble fiber.....on the other hand insoluble fiber seems to lower blood sugar.
I'm eat avocados, for now, and counting net carbs, because I think vegetables and fiber have benefits beyond helping some people poop.
http://ketodietapp.com/Blog/post/2014/11/30/Total-Carbs-or-Net-Carbs-What-Really-Counts[/quote]
Thank you, Lithezebra, I'll read this. I find I do need the extra fiber as of now, but hopefully when I fully find myself in low carb or even better in Keto, then I can rely on the fats. I feel the same way about my veggies, though, so I may not get into Keto , we'll see... Thanks!!0 -
One medium avocado has 3 g of net carbs + 10 g fiber. So it's a great food. My problem with LCHF is that I have zero hunger. I've only been LCHF for 5 weeks and 3 days. I've already lost 9 lb. I'm going to blame the avocados for the reason I can't eat my protein requirements. I do resistance training. I don't want my muscles to melt away.
Basically I'm saying that getting my protein is more important vs getting my fiber. If I get hungry and need a snack, I'm eating an avocado. quote]
Good planning, I was just curious if you thought they were not the best to have on low carb..... I can see why now, if it causing too much satiety and you aren't making your protein reqmnts. Thanks!!0 -
Sorry, I never can get those quote boxes to work in the correct order for me!0
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