Daily check in for Keto friends...

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  • bowlerae
    bowlerae Posts: 555 Member
    I've been having the worst headaches when waking up this week. Not sure if the bulletproof coffee is causing it or helping it. I've started drinking BPC again in the mornings around 8-8:30. My headaches are gone by 9:30 but it may be because I'm more awake or it may be because of the BPC. But every morning they are there when I wake up. I have been having a lot of weird head ache activities ranging from migraines to weird sensations I've never felt before such as tingling (feels like it's actually tingling in my brain) and pain that feels like it's originating behind my eye. I'm actually afraid I should go to the doctor soon. Not sure if it's diet related or not. It's hard to pinpoint when they started (before eating low carb or after) and hard to determine what helps them subside (BPC and high fat, or not). I have always suffered from the occasional migraine, specifically when I wake up so I don't think it's a matter of keto flu but perhaps keto is making it worse. Or it's even possible that they would be happening regardless and keto is helping them subside. I have no idea! I've been trying to drink a lot of water as well.
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    I developed migraines last year in response to increased histamines. I tried to up my fermented foods and brewed my own Kombucha and a number of things. Leftovers and many other foods will continue adding to this - then it's a threshold thing, and wham, there it is. I've cut back and managed it, now, but I'm worried they'll return.

    However, with it feeling like it starts behind your eye, have you been tested for sleep apnea ever? Do you use any sort of a sleep tracker? About a decade or more ago, I would get piercing headaches so bad I almost couldn't move. Found out at a sleep study that my oxygen was dropping to 69% saturation within 2 hours. As point of reference, even during an asthma attack, most folks don't dip below 85-90%...

    However, I'm not sure where you live, @bowlerae, but here, fall allergy season just kicked up into high gear, and I had to switch ALL of my medications. I've been in allergy HADES. So that's a huge factor for me.


    BUT, all of this being said, my eyes and brain are things I personally cannot live without, so I would not put off going to the doctor. For all you know, you could have had an underlying problem for a long time, and the pain is coming from keto trying to fix things! There is absolutely no telling whatsoever. But it isn't worth the risk. Keep us in the loop.

    P.S. Are you taking a good bit of sodium before bed? I could be a keto "flu" electrolyte situation, too...I always forget about that, because I've been doing this too long, and even now, I supplement massively with sodium.
  • bowlerae
    bowlerae Posts: 555 Member
    KnitOrMiss wrote: »
    I developed migraines last year in response to increased histamines. I tried to up my fermented foods and brewed my own Kombucha and a number of things. Leftovers and many other foods will continue adding to this - then it's a threshold thing, and wham, there it is. I've cut back and managed it, now, but I'm worried they'll return.

    However, with it feeling like it starts behind your eye, have you been tested for sleep apnea ever? Do you use any sort of a sleep tracker? About a decade or more ago, I would get piercing headaches so bad I almost couldn't move. Found out at a sleep study that my oxygen was dropping to 69% saturation within 2 hours. As point of reference, even during an asthma attack, most folks don't dip below 85-90%...

    However, I'm not sure where you live, @bowlerae, but here, fall allergy season just kicked up into high gear, and I had to switch ALL of my medications. I've been in allergy HADES. So that's a huge factor for me.


    BUT, all of this being said, my eyes and brain are things I personally cannot live without, so I would not put off going to the doctor. For all you know, you could have had an underlying problem for a long time, and the pain is coming from keto trying to fix things! There is absolutely no telling whatsoever. But it isn't worth the risk. Keep us in the loop.

    P.S. Are you taking a good bit of sodium before bed? I could be a keto "flu" electrolyte situation, too...I always forget about that, because I've been doing this too long, and even now, I supplement massively with sodium.

    Yea there are many factors. My allergies were really bad last night and this morning. I have a new roommate and a dog that I'm slightly allergic too (never been allergic to a dog before until now). The migraines could be originating from that but the tingling and eye sensation happened a few weeks ago before the dog moved in, also before eating low carb again so that's of a greater concern to me (I think it's anxiety and I hope that's all it is). I don't track my sodium but I believe I get a pretty good amount. I could probably up it and the other electrolytes. My roommate eats whole30 and has these electrolyte water in the fridge I've been eyeing. I will purchase a case of those and see how those do for me, so long as they are sugar and carb-free. Thank you for the suggestions and feedback.
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    Best of luck, hon, and keep us in the loop!! Any time someone solves an issue, I tend to tuck the info away for a rainy day when someone else ends up needing it!
  • elize7
    elize7 Posts: 1,088 Member
    Reasons to love keto:

    Okay, this is making lemonade out of lemons due to the fact that I'm relosing weight I'd gained back from way excessive carbage, but...

    What other woe has you losing 3 pounds overnight? All water, but who cares? I love to see the numbers go down no matter where they start from! lol!

    For today, I'm happy with that!
  • wallyburns
    wallyburns Posts: 2 Member
    Good morning! I have read quite a few articles about having headaches while being in ketosis. One answer that comes up often is low electrolytes; sodium, potassium and magnesium.
  • 4031isaiah
    4031isaiah Posts: 1,253 Member
    I had a lot of reading to do to catch up with this thread. I'm finally up to speed. Life has been keeping me very busy lately and sticking to low carb but not strict keto.

    There seems to be a light at the end of my tunnel and it's going to end with a job change. My last day in my super stressful job is October 7. I start I a new position the day after Canadian Thanksgiving. I'm looking forward to it and hope that my body reacts positively to a les stressful environment.

    Christie
  • elize7
    elize7 Posts: 1,088 Member
    Hey Christie, great news about the job! I'm hoping for a similar new job situation which might be good for me too! Might even be a little fun. Fingers are crossed!
    I'm looking to refocus on keto myself...seem to do okay weekdays and lose it on weekends for about a half a year.
    Have kept the damage to about 20 pounds up from being down about 130, so it's not good, but it could be way worse. Wish I could find my way back to steady keto.
    This morning I even felt aches and pains in the bod, which had vanished while I was doing strict keto. Just one more reason to love keto. No pain as well as no gain! Sounds like a great keto motto! Lol.

    So that is my reason to love keto for today...how great it makes my physical body feel. Arthritis be gone!
    Keto on!

  • Hike4WD
    Hike4WD Posts: 13 Member
    Hi, everyone. I'm new here. About 5 years ago I had been on a VERY low fat diet, but my lipid panels were still bad. Then after 2 years on this diet, I had a heart attack. Two stents later, I read Gary Taube's book, "Good Calories, Bad Calories" and it changed my whole understanding of food. I realized that fat wasn't the bad
  • TheBuffster40
    TheBuffster40 Posts: 23 Member
    Quick tip/observation - I know scales that measure body fat percentage aren't very accurate but I've found it really helpful. I've not lost much weight in the past 4 weeks and would be quite downhearted as I'm lchf and doing it strictly. However scale says I've lost 2.5% body fat in that period which is brilliant. Now the readings for bf fluctuate a lot but the overall trend feels clear and reliable.
  • 4031isaiah
    4031isaiah Posts: 1,253 Member
    What brand of scale do you have?
  • 4031isaiah
    4031isaiah Posts: 1,253 Member
    My main struggle is finding satisfying breakfast ideas that are non-dairy. If I'm going to cave anywhere with carbs it's breakfast 'cause I get tired of just eggs. This morning I tried keto waffles... not bad!
  • TheBuffster40
    TheBuffster40 Posts: 23 Member
    It's a salter. It's nothing fancy but gives a bf reading. I wouldn't say the reading itself is accurate but I think as against itself it is reliable for the trend.
    It makes sense too - I've been feeling smaller even tho I don't see it on the tape measure. I'm less lumpy rather than smaller at my waist and hip measurements iyswim. I just look better. V encouraging to have one number that's going down as weight and measurements are negligible atm otherwise I think I'd discount what I see.
  • bowlerae
    bowlerae Posts: 555 Member
    Had the most amount of MCT this morning in the shortest timeframe ever. I think I have a pretty high tolerance for it as I have not had to go to the bathroom yet and I don't feel crampy or anything. I had 2 Tbsp in my BPC along with 1 Tbsp grassfed butter, 2 tsp heavy whipping cream, stevia and cinnamon. Also added 1 Tbsp MCT oil to my greek yogurt along with raspberries and stevia. I was likely going to have an additional 1 Tbsp tonight in my dinner which is zoodles with an avocado cream sauce. Would 4 Tbsp in a day be too much?
  • bowlerae
    bowlerae Posts: 555 Member
    Also checking out the Keto Summit right now while I'm work!
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    It's not too much if you tolerate it well. Therapeutic ranges of coconut oil are 8-12 TBSP...I can't see how MCT would be much different.
  • Claudette03
    Claudette03 Posts: 10 Member
    Starting Keto today! So glad I found this group and hoping being part of a like-minded community will help me stay on track. Keto goes against everything I know about diet and weight loss. I lost over 100 lbs eating a low fat diet in 2004 and have kept it off until this year. I have gained 33 lbs as a result of illness and letting my eating habits slip. It's easy to eat when you can't do anything else! I have a lot of body fat to lose and can't do anything but low impact exercise and that is why I am trying this. Got my measurements and starting pic out of the way and it is what it is. I can only go down from here!
  • 4031isaiah
    4031isaiah Posts: 1,253 Member
    Starting Keto today! So glad I found this group and hoping being part of a like-minded community will help me stay on track. Keto goes against everything I know about diet and weight loss. I lost over 100 lbs eating a low fat diet in 2004 and have kept it off until this year. I have gained 33 lbs as a result of illness and letting my eating habits slip. It's easy to eat when you can't do anything else! I have a lot of body fat to lose and can't do anything but low impact exercise and that is why I am trying this. Got my measurements and starting pic out of the way and it is what it is. I can only go down from here!

    Before pic and measurements is not something I have never done and don't know if I have the guts to do....
  • kittn_mittns
    kittn_mittns Posts: 13 Member
    Hey! My name is Kay. I started Keto originally around June, lost about 15 pounds in two months and then fell off the wagon because summer holidays are too tempting! I managed to gain all the weight back and feel even worse than I did before originally, so I'm getting back on and I'm going to keep going until I drop the weight I set out to lose! I tried to go without logging, but it turns out I have terrible personal accountability :wink:
  • 4031isaiah
    4031isaiah Posts: 1,253 Member
    Hey! My name is Kay. I started Keto originally around June, lost about 15 pounds in two months and then fell off the wagon because summer holidays are too tempting! I managed to gain all the weight back and feel even worse than I did before originally, so I'm getting back on and I'm going to keep going until I drop the weight I set out to lose! I tried to go without logging, but it turns out I have terrible personal accountability :wink:

    Wow! I totally could've written that entire post myself. I've been trying to get used to logging everything. I'm giving myself a week to try to get into the habit and I'm hoping to be consistent with it daily come October 1.
  • elize7
    elize7 Posts: 1,088 Member
    I never did before pics either. In fact, I have thrown out all photos I can find of myself that I don't like. I have big time body dysmorphia issues and only recently am beginning to deal with my body as is.
    Even trying to love it after a partial regain.

    My main issue now seems to be be lack of ability to regain my focus and direction for continuing this lifestyle consistantly.
    I really feel lost at sea. I'm back to emotional eating and self sabotaging my food plan...in spite of the desire not to.

    Just cannot seem to combine taking even normal life risks, setbacks and disappointments without over-reacting with comfort food. I'm stymied. Trying to be patient with myself and not beat myself up, but really can't seem to find a successful strategy for this area.
    I've tried hobbies, social events, household projects, creative expression...anything I can think of....but the first little heartache or rejection and I'm stuffing my face like a trooper!
    So frustrated I could scream and throw things. I don't want to gain back all my weight. I dont want fat to be my protection from living.
    And that is how I feel today.
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    @elize7 - I can't remember if I asked you about this before, but have you ever looked into something more like the Trim Healthy Mama program? I don't use it (yet) myself or anything, but it's essentially like an alternating LCHF/Keto plan and a low-ish carb, low fat plan... Basically, if your meal has fats, it should have under a certain number of carbs. If it has over a certain amount of carbs, it should have under a specific amount of fats.... All meals include reasonable protein, etc. You're just supposed to wait 3 hours before switching fuel sources. So if you wanted to eat keto for breakfast and lunch, then wanted carb stuff at dinner (still limited, just more allowed than on keto), you have the carb stuff and skip the fats. How you break it down is up to you. It just sounds like something that might end up having the flexibility for you. You can do the occasional meal with higher carbs and fats, but it has to be on a limited basis, etc. I keep coming back to this idea, though I just need to break down and buy the books - because I keep checking out the e-books and library books, and I'll make it part way through and not finish. I have a friend who lost 100 pounds in a little over a year doing it, and healed a lot of her health issues. She's finding it easier to stick with due to the flexibility. Just thought I would mention it as something to research.

    You know me, I'm all about making my own path, and I'm working hard within that right now... :)

    I just hate seeing you feel so tortured at not being able to stick with things through your more stressful times (lordy knows I am right there with you!)...
  • elize7
    elize7 Posts: 1,088 Member
    Thanks Knit! That sounds like something to check out.. it really might help to keep me on track. Three hours between fuel sources would be easy for me... and more carbs- planned- might keep me going. I actually had talked about something like this with my therapist and picked out a couple foods to substitute for those killer weekend temptations. Didn't even know it was a "thing."
    This weekend I think I'll start, and I'll keep you posted as to any successes. It really might help at the moment.

    I know I post a lot about my struggles, but I really have no intention of jumping ship.
    Adding life to my life is challenging and triggers my food and security issues bigtime; but believe me when I say...I plan to stick with it and keep trying.
    It's so nice to have people out there who care and understand and respond.

    Thanks for all your advice to me and to others whom I see you comment to. You are so awesome!
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    @elize7 - You are so welcome. Helping people like this is frankly, my passion. I don't know any other way to put it, really. So many of us share so many struggles. I cannot even begin to count the number of times I've started out to research something for a friend - only to find out something for myself along the way!

    That being said, the idea of the flexible program appeals to me so much, but I'm really terrified to feel like I"m stepping off keto, when in reality, I've already done that. I've been on repeat binge mode, though not faceplanting into all the bad foods, eating compulsively or eating even when I don't want something but can't think of anything else or eating one of something and not taking another breath until the entire package is gone, etc.

    The fact is, nutritional ketosis is a thing, but it isn't a good thing for everyone, and for some people, just lowering the carbs is enough to get fat adapted, which for me personally, is the goal, not maintaining ketosis, per se. I can slide in and out of NK without much of any changes I notice, as long as I keep it low carb. So remember, that just because full on keto is what got you here, that modified keto could be what keeps you here. It could be as simple as one meal a day is keto - or one meal a week - or whatever...

    I've been kind of in hiding with my own mess, because I can't figure out the direction I want to follow. I keep trying to keep low carb, as my mornings and lunches tend to be keto, at least M-F, because it's the easiest and my body responds best to those foods while performing for work, etc... I just can't find the balance. I know I have way too much going on, and that's why I'm stressed and finding it hard to focus, but I just keep looking for the lynchpin...haven't found it yet.

    So while I'm over here in my chaos sh!+ storm, take solace in the fact that my brain is still mostly working, even if my sanity isn't! LOL

    Wishing you luck and absolutely looking forward to hearing how your experiment goes!
  • Claudette03
    Claudette03 Posts: 10 Member
    KnitOrMiss wrote: »
    @elize7 - I can't remember if I asked you about this before, but have you ever looked into something more like the Trim Healthy Mama program? I don't use it (yet) myself or anything, but it's essentially like an alternating LCHF/Keto plan and a low-ish carb, low fat plan... Basically, if your meal has fats, it should have under a certain number of carbs. If it has over a certain amount of carbs, it should have under a specific amount of fats.... All meals include reasonable protein, etc. You're just supposed to wait 3 hours before switching fuel sources. So if you wanted to eat keto for breakfast and lunch, then wanted carb stuff at dinner (still limited, just more allowed than on keto), you have the carb stuff and skip the fats. How you break it down is up to you. It just sounds like something that might end up having the flexibility for you. You can do the occasional meal with higher carbs and fats, but it has to be on a limited basis, etc. I keep coming back to this idea, though I just need to break down and buy the books - because I keep checking out the e-books and library books, and I'll make it part way through and not finish. I have a friend who lost 100 pounds in a little over a year doing it, and healed a lot of her health issues. She's finding it easier to stick with due to the flexibility. Just thought I would mention it as something to research.

    You know me, I'm all about making my own path, and I'm working hard within that right now... :)

    I just hate seeing you feel so tortured at not being able to stick with things through your more stressful times (lordy knows I am right there with you!)...

  • Claudette03
    Claudette03 Posts: 10 Member
    What you're describing sounds like carb cycling. There are some good books out on the subject and other shows to be pretty effective. There is also a cheat day on most of the carb cycling plans.
  • Claudette03
    Claudette03 Posts: 10 Member
    4031isaiah wrote: »
    Starting Keto today! So glad I found this group and hoping being part of a like-minded community will help me stay on track. Keto goes against everything I know about diet and weight loss. I lost over 100 lbs eating a low fat diet in 2004 and have kept it off until this year. I have gained 33 lbs as a result of illness and letting my eating habits slip. It's easy to eat when you can't do anything else! I have a lot of body fat to lose and can't do anything but low impact exercise and that is why I am trying this. Got my measurements and starting pic out of the way and it is what it is. I can only go down from here!

    Before pic and measurements is not something I have never done and don't know if I have the guts to do....

    Measurements are key! The scale doesn't always show the results you have earned, especially when losing fat. But inches will be lost and it's so motivating to see that when the scale isn't moving.
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    What you're describing sounds like carb cycling. There are some good books out on the subject and other shows to be pretty effective. There is also a cheat day on most of the carb cycling plans.


    The main thing about THM and the way it works is that even the "carb days" are closer to a high end low carb plan. Most carb cycling I've seen is more about however much you want in a set amount of time, though admittedly, I haven't researched it. Also, with THM, you can switch that gear every other meal if you want... Carb cycling is generally a wider scale...
  • elize7
    elize7 Posts: 1,088 Member
    Hey Knit!
    Tried the new plan last night, earlier than I hoped, but when that urge hit I had a dinner with about 25 more carbs than usual (45 total), and just a wee bit more fat and protein. I felt very satisfied and figure I saved myself !hundreds!!! of carbs and fat!!! from my standard binge. And a couple thousand calories overall! This could really be a breakthrough for me.
    Then easy, peasy back to keto for breakfast.
    I don't usually eat lunch, and if I get the urge tonight, I'll do the same thing. Maybe tomorrow and saturday too!

    I feel pretty psyched! A new tool in the toolbag. Don't know if it's the cure, but I really felt full and satisfied after.
    Today, I also had an extra cup of bouillion before dinner which another fitness pal said had helped with sugar cravings...

    Hoping for another binge free evening. The final failsafe trick being...just go to bed!!

    # feeling fully armed for success.
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