Protein/Fat
Panda_Poptarts
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Hi Guys -
I'd love if you could take a look at my protein / fat intake over the last 30 days, and see how it looks. Is it normal that my grams of protein and fat are pretty similar?
I'd love if you could take a look at my protein / fat intake over the last 30 days, and see how it looks. Is it normal that my grams of protein and fat are pretty similar?
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Looks fine to me (assuming you're trying for 1200 a day), except the 10th looks really low. What is that? 600 calories?0
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I'm actually eating 1600 - 1800. Am I off in that case?
We were all sick on the 10th. I was throwing up quite a bit and subsisted mostly on broth
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That makes sense for the 10th.
It would depend on your carbs, but it looks like you're hitting around 100g of protein and 100 grams of fat (despite the goal), which would be 1300 calories. The extra 450 calories in fat are being left on the table.
That's not a problem, if it is happening naturally because you are honestly no hungry. But, if you're avoiding fat or trying to cut the calories, that will be a problem. And, as your weight goes down and your fat/calories goes up, you shouldn't fight it. That's especially true since you're under your real goal now.0 -
@FIT_Goat This might help:
As you can see, I have been sitting near that 1300 / 1400 calorie mark for quite some time. I realized this was likely an unhealthy number for me during the past couple of weeks, and bumped up to 1800(ish). I strive for 1800, but sometimes just can't eat that much!
For the record, I determined that 1300/1400 was unhealthy due to frequent strenuous exercise and not eating back those calories, which indicates that I was netting low. At this point, I'm not avoiding calories - although, there is a HUGE part of me that really wants to. It's challenging to say "I'm at 1840" and be okay with that, but I'm improving
Given that - how do the last couple weeks look? I'm happy to make any changes I need to to ensure that I'm doing this right, and giving myself the best chance of success.
Edit to add: Carbs are typically around 20g, plus or minus 5g.
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I think it looks good, I wonder if upping the fat and lowering the protein a little might get the scale moving for you again.0
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For maintaining weight, your daily protein should be 1 Gram per Lb weight. .5 Gram per Lb weight, if you are trying to lose weight. Also depends how active you are.0
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It looks good the last few weeks. Don't touch the protein. Protein needs to be higher when losing than when maintaining. Right around 100g is probably fine.0
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auntstephie321 wrote: »I think it looks good, I wonder if upping the fat and lowering the protein a little might get the scale moving for you again.
This, if your eating 1300/1400 and not working out. If your working out you might need more protein?? I think macros for me are best at 75%fat/ 20%pro/ 5% carbs To High protein slows me way down
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I tend to do better with higher protein but I've heard others mention that too much slows down their progress.
Eta: if you're working out I think you'd do better with more than 1300/1400 kcal in which case upping the fat would be helpful in getting there.0 -
auntstephie321 wrote: »I think it looks good, I wonder if upping the fat and lowering the protein a little might get the scale moving for you again.
Can you recommend some ways to up fat without adding extra protein? I'm getting a lot of my fats from dairy, which definitely has some protein.
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auntstephie321 wrote: »I tend to do better with higher protein but I've heard others mention that too much slows down their progress.
Eta: if you're working out I think you'd do better with more than 1300/1400 kcal in which case upping the fat would be helpful in getting there.
I'm up to 1800 now for the past 2 weeks.
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Pretty active I think! 8-10hrs a week of strenuous exercise.0
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To increase fat without adding protein: use hwc in coffee, scrambled eggs, or make an Alfredo type sauce to put over meat, add butter to everything, or coconut oil too. This is where fat bombs can come in handy, if you like them. Remember though that fat grams aren't a goal to strive for each day. You add fat to increase satiety from the foods you eat, but if you aren't hungry you don't have to meet that number.0
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I think butter and coconut oil are very important sources of fats that are under used when just beginning. Getting fat from dairy seems to so often be the go to. But dairy can actually be a problem if consumer in too large amounts. Not always, but I think more people are sensitive to it than even realize.
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To increase fat without adding protein: use hwc in coffee, scrambled eggs, or make an Alfredo type sauce to put over meat, add butter to everything, or coconut oil too. This is where fat bombs can come in handy, if you like them. Remember though that fat grams aren't a goal to strive for each day. You add fat to increase satiety from the foods you eat, but if you aren't hungry you don't have to meet that number.
I feel like I'm not always staying full long after a meal. I do awesome with breakfast, which is usually 30 to 50 grams of fat, then nay not be hungry for quite awhile. However, my dinner never seems to last more than 2 hours. Sounds like I may need to kick it up a notch.
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »I think butter and coconut oil are very important sources of fats that are under used when just beginning. Getting fat from dairy seems to so often be the go to. But dairy can actually be a problem if consumer in too large amounts. Not always, but I think more people are sensitive to it than even realize.
Because cheese is awesome, am I right? I do use HWC in my coffee, but I'm not using much butter or oil at this point. I'll give it a try!
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I agree with sunny, more butter or coconut oil will get you higher on the fat and will likely help you feel full longer.
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http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/Panda_Poptarts?date=2016-02-23 <- I'm going to assume "Meal 4" is dinner.
The turkey cutlets and stuff like it are what kill you with protein vs fat. Turkey and chicken breast are great for getting more protein in, but not so much if you're trying to keep protein down or need to get fat up. The chicken thighs are a good start, or a good option if the bird is your only meat choice, but eat the skins, too!
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/Panda_Poptarts?date=2016-02-22 <- case in point. Chicken thigh =. Skinless = 
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Also, ditch the yogurt dressing for regular blue cheese dressing if you're choosing the yogurt one because of calories or fat content (if you like the flavor better, that's a different matter).
Trading those things should get you at least a good step toward more fat without too much more protein.0 -
Avocado That's my fat bomb. 0
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Dragonwolf wrote: »
The turkey cutlets and stuff like it are what kill you with protein vs fat.
Do you eat poultry? Occasionally I love the stuff. We buy it because it's cheap I got these packages of turkey cutlets for $2 for 6 cutlets - total steal! I was going to do a cream sauce, and ran out of time before my lunch break 
I'll start getting bone-in skin-on chicken instead!
Most of the blue cheese dressings I've found are high in carb. Do you have a recommendation for a brand? I definitely prefer the full fat blue cheese over the yogurt type, primarily due to the consistency of the yogurt type.
Thanks so much for the tips. This is a huge change, but so totally worth it. I'm about a month in now and loving it. I lost 5 inches this month!!!
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Congats on your weight loss. I love chicken. To vary results and add fats I cook with coconut oil plus create dressings n sauces with ingredients such as butter, philadelphia cream cheese, cheese , olive oil and seeds or a few nuts. Avocado is also useful. Eggs are a staple.0
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http://www.renees.com/en/productinfo.aspx?id=re028
Renee's blue cheese dressing is 0 carb per serving.0 -
SamandaIndia wrote: »Congats on your weight loss. I love chicken. To vary results and add fats I cook with coconut oil plus create dressings n sauces with ingredients such as butter, philadelphia cream cheese, cheese , olive oil and seeds or a few nuts. Avocado is also useful. Eggs are a staple.
With 16 chickens in my backyard, eggs are generally a staple here too
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I still eat a lot of lean meats. What I do to make it work is eat less of the meat and add a sauce. If I didn't have time for a sauce, I would add butter.0
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Panda_Poptarts wrote: »Dragonwolf wrote: »
The turkey cutlets and stuff like it are what kill you with protein vs fat.
Do you eat poultry? Occasionally I love the stuff. We buy it because it's cheap I got these packages of turkey cutlets for $2 for 6 cutlets - total steal! I was going to do a cream sauce, and ran out of time before my lunch break I'll start getting bone-in skin-on chicken instead!
Most of the blue cheese dressings I've found are high in carb. Do you have a recommendation for a brand? I definitely prefer the full fat blue cheese over the yogurt type, primarily due to the consistency of the yogurt type.
Thanks so much for the tips. This is a huge change, but so totally worth it. I'm about a month in now and loving it. I lost 5 inches this month!!!
I do, sometimes. Turkey's usually just a Thanksgiving thing, though I sometimes get deli turkey, then put mayo and cheese on them and make roll-ups. Usually, bird meals are chicken. I'm not a dark meat fan, though, so it's not a frequent thing, and always with the skin (rain salt on whole chicken, roast at 400 for an hour, and you'll have the best chicken skin ever), and just accept the higher protein meal. If there's leftovers, I tend to slather it in butter. I do do fried wings occasionally, but it's literally a single given meal, and it's however the wing joint makes them (naked, though, no sauce).
And to clarify -- it's not to say that you can't, you just have to remember that it's a protein-heavy meat and make sure to compensate for that.
My staple meats are pork and bison, usually. The bison's a little on the lean side, so I cook/eat it with liberal amounts of butter.
I can't help with the Blue Cheese dressing. I hate blue cheese with the passion of a thousand suns. I'd check the "natural" or "organic" brands, though. The condiments in general tend to have less added sugar (and therefore, fewer carbs) than the typical brands.Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »I still eat a lot of lean meats. What I do to make it work is eat less of the meat and add a sauce. If I didn't have time for a sauce, I would add butter.
That works, too, but by the looks of her diary, I suspect she's getting sick of drowning everything in butter!
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Oh. I thought she said most fat was coming from dairy. As in cream and cheese...
But... Too much butter? Is that a thing? Lol
Just kidding. I know it can become overwhelming.0 -
samanthaluangphixay wrote: »http://www.renees.com/en/productinfo.aspx?id=re028
Renee's blue cheese dressing is 0 carb per serving.
I was really excited when I checked the link and saw the blue cheese and the Caesar dressing because I love both. But now that I've started really paying attention to labels with this new woe I did a google search on Canola oil and didn't like what I was reading. Especially if you check out what they say on the "Food Renegade" website. But other sites say it's good for you. Sometimes I want to throw my hands up in exasperation.0 -
Dragonwolf wrote: »Panda_Poptarts wrote: »Dragonwolf wrote: »
The turkey cutlets and stuff like it are what kill you with protein vs fat.
Do you eat poultry? Occasionally I love the stuff. We buy it because it's cheap I got these packages of turkey cutlets for $2 for 6 cutlets - total steal! I was going to do a cream sauce, and ran out of time before my lunch break I'll start getting bone-in skin-on chicken instead!
Most of the blue cheese dressings I've found are high in carb. Do you have a recommendation for a brand? I definitely prefer the full fat blue cheese over the yogurt type, primarily due to the consistency of the yogurt type.
Thanks so much for the tips. This is a huge change, but so totally worth it. I'm about a month in now and loving it. I lost 5 inches this month!!!
I do, sometimes. Turkey's usually just a Thanksgiving thing, though I sometimes get deli turkey, then put mayo and cheese on them and make roll-ups. Usually, bird meals are chicken. I'm not a dark meat fan, though, so it's not a frequent thing, and always with the skin (rain salt on whole chicken, roast at 400 for an hour, and you'll have the best chicken skin ever), and just accept the higher protein meal. If there's leftovers, I tend to slather it in butter. I do do fried wings occasionally, but it's literally a single given meal, and it's however the wing joint makes them (naked, though, no sauce).
And to clarify -- it's not to say that you can't, you just have to remember that it's a protein-heavy meat and make sure to compensate for that.
My staple meats are pork and bison, usually. The bison's a little on the lean side, so I cook/eat it with liberal amounts of butter.
I can't help with the Blue Cheese dressing. I hate blue cheese with the passion of a thousand suns. I'd check the "natural" or "organic" brands, though. The condiments in general tend to have less added sugar (and therefore, fewer carbs) than the typical brands.Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »I still eat a lot of lean meats. What I do to make it work is eat less of the meat and add a sauce. If I didn't have time for a sauce, I would add butter.
That works, too, but by the looks of her diary, I suspect she's getting sick of drowning everything in butter!
There are recipes for blue cheese dressing and many other luscious sauces. A PITA maybe, but delicious.
I too hate blue cheese. I want to like it. But do not. I had some Buffalo Blue Cheese once that wasn't' so bad. But it was Wishbone brand I think and I can taste the PUFA oils in processed salad dressings anymore so blurgh. No thanks. I won't even eat Ranch anymore if I don't make it myself. Last time I had a salad, I put sour cream and salsa on it and mixed it up. I have a recipe from FluffyChix that I've made before. So I'll be having that next time I do ranchy stuff.
@Dragonwolf -I'll take that dark meat off your hands. Love the stuff.
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@baconslave I found some packets of dry dip mix that are low carb yesterday. Really yummy mixed with sour cream as a dip for pork rinds. Salami slathered in mayo got my vote, too. And hello fat on that one!
I do get sick of butter. Don't get me wrong, I like it. But sometimes it makes food more oily than I am accustomed to. I prefer my butter cold or on bread.... which I don't currently eat. Lol.
I'll keep fiddling with it. I've literally been googling high fat foods to get more options.
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »Oh. I thought she said most fat was coming from dairy. As in cream and cheese...
But... Too much butter? Is that a thing? Lol
Just kidding. I know it can become overwhelming.
Don't get me wrobg, there is a lot of cheese going on over here. A. Lot. Of. Cheese.
Am I the only one who feels like meat and cheese is all the grocery store has to offer that's keto friendly sometimes???0
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