So bloody sick of...
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Cheese, eggs, butter and coconut oil. My calorie intake is down just because I can't face another meal of these items. I had a 1200 calorie deficit yesterday because I just couldn't make myself eat what I needed to eat. I'm a lacto-ovo vegetarian on keto, and my macros are good (usually below 10g total carbs and only 20-25g protein at any particular meal) and I'd like to keep them that way. Any suggestions for any other lacto-ovo vegetarian keto foods that work well with my macros? (5% total carbs, 75% fats, 20% protein). I'm happy on keto otherwise, but man, soooooo sick of these foods!!
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Would a few slices of avocado help? Maybe an avocado half with an egg baked in the middle, top it off with a little salsa or sour cream?0
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I saw this on facebook a couple days ago. Maybe they will have some receipes in here to help.
http://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/recipes/going-green0 -
What about cream of asparagus soup - or broccoli cheddar soup? You can use a vegetarian stock base. Also, egg drop soup could be done in the vegetarian stock base, too. Also, how do you prepare your eggs? There are about a million ways to make them...yolks runny, yolks firm, whites runny, whites firm, baked, fried, in quiche (crustless or a keto friendly crust), scrambles, omelettes, deviled, egg salad, etc., etc., etc. They can even be used to make baked custards and other things. http://www.ibreatheimhungry.com/2014/07/egg-fast.html Recipes are part of the way down.
Also, what about hulled hemp seeds, chia seeds, flax seeds, nuts, etc for proteins? They can be made into all kinds of things. Veggie mixed with a dressing and nuts is awesome. Also some of the leafier greens have protein...
I'm not a fan of soy, but you might be able to include soy proteins, too, if you're not at risk for hormonal issues with them.
Also, I wanted to ask - what is the reason you're vegetarian? Is it spiritual reason? A health reason? Because without an underlying NEED to keep to that program, you're naturally excluding a huge classification of foods that could help you stick to this WOE/WOL in an easier way. Supplements will be a requirement to make sure you are getting the vitamins naturally found in most meats that are not found in the items you're sticking to above.
Also, cream cheese, heavy cream, cottage cheese (this one's HUGE in protein)... all options...
@d090882 is a more restricted vegetarian, if I remember correctly, and he might be able to provide some recipe suggestions. Stir fries and zoodle dishes are good options here (mmm....homemade alfredo sauce, yes please!), just making sure to use some olive oil and/or soy sauce/coconut aminos. Mushrooms can be used as a meat substitute in many recipes.0 -
What about hummus? I also add whey protein and hemp protein to mug bread. I eat soy chorizo too.0
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Make a list of what you *can* eat, and keep it posted in your kitchen for inspiration.0
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Spinach with Almonds salad, edamame, cacao butter, vegan dark chocolate, leafy greens, avocados, macadamia nuts, olives, flax crackers, chia seeds, various oils. I'd ditto what KnitOrMiss asked. Determine your needs vs wants of being lacto-ovo vegetarian on Keto as dietary necessity or a WOE and adjust where you can. If you can open up to the possibility of fish you will have a huge variety of options. I love those huge Portobello mushrooms grilled as a steak! Good luck!
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I love this tofu and make it fairly often. http://minimalistbaker.com/crispy-peanut-tofu-cauliflower-rice-stir-fry/0
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KnitOrMiss wrote: »what is the reason you're vegetarian?
I've been a vegetarian for 30 years, so I won't be changing at this point in my life! I find that explaining the reasons why I became a vegetarian is a lightning rod for controversy, so I'd rather not explain.
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I'm afraid so many of the suggestions given, while VERY appreciated, will leave me having significantly more carbs than I have now. I am on a very low carb keto diet, aiming for a max of 20 total carbs per day, so nuts, vegetables, etc., are pretty much out except for treats.0
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lithezebra wrote: »I love this tofu and make it fairly often. http://minimalistbaker.com/crispy-peanut-tofu-cauliflower-rice-stir-fry/
Thank you, but this is very high in carbs and sugar for my diet.0 -
Low carb soul bread.0
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lithezebra wrote: »I love this tofu and make it fairly often. http://minimalistbaker.com/crispy-peanut-tofu-cauliflower-rice-stir-fry/
Thank you, but this is very high in carbs and sugar for my diet.
I leave the sugar out, or use a small amount of no carb sweetener such as erythritol. The tofu has some carbs, although if you use sprouted tofu you can get rid of a few more. The rest of the carbs, minus the fiber, are from non-starchy vegetables, which I need, and the almond or peanut butter, which help keep my dietary fat from consisting solely of saturated fat.0 -
When you say 20 total, do you mean 20 net? There is no advantage to being that low carb compared to 20 net, unless you are doing some kind of elimination diet.0
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I'm afraid so many of the suggestions given, while VERY appreciated, will leave me having significantly more carbs than I have now. I am on a very low carb keto diet, aiming for a max of 20 total carbs per day, so nuts, vegetables, etc., are pretty much out except for treats.
although im not a vegetarian is still eat nuts,veg and keep below <20 a day especially as you can take the fibre of carbs
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if your diet of food is so small and restrictive it's not going to be substanable,better to have more thus having variety and hopefully it will be easier and more enjoyable to stick to0
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I really dig vegetables sauteed in avocado oil or olive oil, or topped with butter. What about creamed spinach? Loads of fat in a serving.0
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Since the vegetarian part of your diet is a given, I wonder if I can ask why you are so restrictive of the carbs? What is the reason that you decided to be under 20 carbs/day? This might be the sticking point that leaves you a very monotonous diet.0
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I'm afraid so many of the suggestions given, while VERY appreciated, will leave me having significantly more carbs than I have now. I am on a very low carb keto diet, aiming for a max of 20 total carbs per day, so nuts, vegetables, etc., are pretty much out except for treats.
Also, something to consider is that you might be able to lose as much weight at 50 grams total carbs as 50 grams. Some people are very blessed that way. A way to know your upper level ketogenic threshold would be to pick a day of the week and increase your carbs that week. So if you're at 20 this week, next week would be 25 a day, the week after 30 a day, etc., until you stop losing weight, and then you bump back down 5 grams to the weight loss range. As long as those increasing carbs come from good quality carbs and not sugars, you might be surprised how much you can push the threshold, which would enable you to add more foods back in, making this dietary plan more sustainable for you personally.
Also, I wasn't asking you to justify your choice as a vegetarian, just to consider what might be things within your personal choices that you could be flexible on. Because honestly, if you don't find a way to expand what you allow yourself to eat, and you're already bored, you're unlikely to succeed long term.
Remember that nearly all recipes can include substitutions to make them lower carb...0 -
This is one of my favorite high fat recipes - and I think the chicken could easily be swapped out for paneer or a similar cheese (or maybe even hard boiled egg!). It says 6 servings, but to me, it makes more, so the carbs can be cut down further (I think it was 9, 8 net when I calculated it), and you can probably get away with less onion too, if that helps. Mainly, the sauce is the thing that is wonderful about this recipe - it's basically made of HWC, butter, tomato sauce, and curry (I have never been able to find tandoori masala, so I just use curry powder, which I add straight to the sauce).
http://allrecipes.com/recipe/141169/easy-indian-butter-chicken/?internalSource=search result&referringContentType=search results
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Oh, and I second the Soul Bread suggestion. I made some grilled cheese with it yesterday and it was AMAZING!
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Cheese, eggs, butter and coconut oil. My calorie intake is down just because I can't face another meal of these items. . . . Any suggestions for any other lacto-ovo vegetarian keto foods that work well with my macros? (5% total carbs, 75% fats, 20% protein). I'm happy on keto otherwise, but man, soooooo sick of these foods!!
Here is a chart that might give you some ideas. http://lowcarbediem.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Zero-Carb-Foods-Low-Carbe-Diem.jpg I'd also add olives to the list.
Ultimately, though, something has to give. Since you do not eat an entire category of foods, you may have to either put up with being sick of the ones you do eat - or (if ketosis is your goal), test how much higher you can go and still remain in ketosis. It is likely to be closer to 50 gross than 20.0 -
I'm afraid so many of the suggestions given, while VERY appreciated, will leave me having significantly more carbs than I have now. I am on a very low carb keto diet, aiming for a max of 20 total carbs per day, so nuts, vegetables, etc., are pretty much out except for treats.
I see your point. Just staying <50 carbs gross so nuts are a huge part of my WOE. While our macros are similar I do not limit any food choices except my carb count to stay in nutritional ketosis. Even then I know was you are talking about when it comes to options.
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DorkothyParker wrote: »When you say 20 total, do you mean 20 net? There is no advantage to being that low carb compared to 20 net, unless you are doing some kind of elimination diet.
No, I mean 20 total. There are differing opinions as to whether net carbs or total carbs should be used as a measure - I use total carbs.
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Since the vegetarian part of your diet is a given, I wonder if I can ask why you are so restrictive of the carbs? What is the reason that you decided to be under 20 carbs/day? This might be the sticking point that leaves you a very monotonous diet.
This is the keto diet. I didn't make it up, I just follow it!0 -
Thank you again, everyone, but I was just looking for ideas as to different recipes and food that would fit within my dietary restrictions - I am not looking to change my dietary restrictions at the current time.0
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This is one of my favorite high fat recipes - and I think the chicken could easily be swapped out for paneer or a similar cheese (or maybe even hard boiled egg!). It says 6 servings, but to me, it makes more, so the carbs can be cut down further (I think it was 9, 8 net when I calculated it), and you can probably get away with less onion too, if that helps. Mainly, the sauce is the thing that is wonderful about this recipe - it's basically made of HWC, butter, tomato sauce, and curry (I have never been able to find tandoori masala, so I just use curry powder, which I add straight to the sauce).
http://allrecipes.com/recipe/141169/easy-indian-butter-chicken/?internalSource=search result&referringContentType=search results
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Since the vegetarian part of your diet is a given, I wonder if I can ask why you are so restrictive of the carbs? What is the reason that you decided to be under 20 carbs/day? This might be the sticking point that leaves you a very monotonous diet.
This is the keto diet. I didn't make it up, I just follow it!
Are you keto for a medical issue? If not you may be able to raise your carb ceiling.
Unless someone is on keto for epilepsy or other medical issues (they'll have rigid macros in those cases), the keto diet works up to 50g for most people. Athletes tend to have increased tolerance to carbs so they may be able to stay in ketosis at higher grams than even that. 20g is preferred to get you into ketosis faster in the beginning. Many people find that they stay that low because they either like it or find their cravings stay dead better that low. Or they may lose faster. But it may not affect loss rate at all. Rate of weightloss if different for different people, regardless of their WOE. Or because they think they'll get a keto-trophy for being hardcore. There isn't one, btw.
I'll have been keto for 2 years on June 3, I'm just staying under 50g right now. I'm still keto.
Point being, once you are keto-adapted, you can start messing with your gram level if you need to and raise it. Just keep it below 50g. You can mess with it before then, it just takes a little longer to become adapted. And if it isn't a race...a few more days isn't going to make or break anyone.
If you have a blood ketone meter or a ketone breathalyzer, you can fine tune even further and pinpoint the exact point you exceed your carb threshold.
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Since the vegetarian part of your diet is a given, I wonder if I can ask why you are so restrictive of the carbs? What is the reason that you decided to be under 20 carbs/day? This might be the sticking point that leaves you a very monotonous diet.
This is the keto diet. I didn't make it up, I just follow it!
You didn't make it up, but you're also not following it either. Lyle McDonald didn't make it up, but he wrote "The Book" on it, and he uses net carbs and up to 50 grams a day. Actually, the carb amounts he discusses vary and even 60 grams seem to work for many. It would be easy to maintain ketosis at 50 total grams a day. It would probably be easy at nearly double that.
Volek and Phinney also didn't make up the keto diet, but they have written a comprehensive guide to it. They're quite comfortable with net carbs and 50 grams of net also.
Actually, almost every source I have says that 50 grams is usually a safe working amount for the upper limit of keto. The numbers 20 and 25 are used as a "for sure" number to account for the fact the most newbs don't realize how many carbs are in everything we eat.
Is it any coincidence that your vegetarianism and eating disorder started at the same time? You claim to be 10 years in remission after 20 years of an eating disorder, and that you've been vegetarian for 30 years. Perhaps you're not as recovered as you want us to believe. This diet plan you have yourself on is not going to work, is extremely restrictive, and you're going to need to bend on something. I'm fine if you're stuck with the vegetarian thing, but you need to get over the "20 total grams" nonsense. That is not what it means to be keto. It is a misinterpretation of the guidelines.0
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