Low carb lifestyle long term
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I am interested in what type of fats comprise the 80% figure... would that mean bacon and eggs or almonds and avocado? Or both?0
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As a healthcare professional, it was hard for me to accept fat, but I did know that low fat wasn't doing anyone any favors. Cholesterol Clarity is a very good read, as well as Grain Brain. I leaped in blind faith a year ago, after the knowledge I gained from the people here (just as you're doing)! Good luck! I'm very happy that I don't administer daily medications in my position! I would feel a true conflict of interest at this point!
I agree! Earlier I watched a video about the supporting reasons saturated fat and other fats actually help the heart. Someone kindly posted In this thread. It really put my thoughts to ease. It was over an hour long but seeing the studies from reputable colleges was well worth piece of mind.
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I am interested in what type of fats comprise the 80% figure... would that mean bacon and eggs or almonds and avocado? Or both?
gotta watch out for almonds they have a few more carbs than say macadamia nuts. anything more than a handful and you can start racking up the carbs.
can always cook with butter or bacon fat to add fat to your meat and veggies. just keep track of how much.
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I am interested in what type of fats comprise the 80% figure... would that mean bacon and eggs or almonds and avocado? Or both?
gotta watch out for almonds they have a few more carbs than say macadamia nuts. anything more than a handful and you can start racking up the carbs.
can always cook with butter or bacon fat to add fat to your meat and veggies. just keep track of how much.
How about supplements everyone??? I take a multi but should I change that? My calcium and iron looks low from logging anyway. What do you all take?0 -
Buildingit3157 wrote: »I am interested in what type of fats comprise the 80% figure... would that mean bacon and eggs or almonds and avocado? Or both?
gotta watch out for almonds they have a few more carbs than say macadamia nuts. anything more than a handful and you can start racking up the carbs.
can always cook with butter or bacon fat to add fat to your meat and veggies. just keep track of how much.
How about supplements everyone??? I take a multi but should I change that? My calcium and iron looks low from logging anyway. What do you all take?
Here was a recent discussion about supplements.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10363620/what-and-why-supplements#latest
But also check out the info in this post.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10358179/dizzy-weak-tired-headaches-cramping-muscles-electrolyte-imbalance-may-be-your-problem#latest0 -
I am interested in what type of fats comprise the 80% figure... would that mean bacon and eggs or almonds and avocado? Or both?
If someone is at 80% fats they are probably going for a carnivorous diet and aiming for no carbs (or plant foods). If fats are 80%, most would probably be saturated or monounsaturated fats from meats, dairy and eggs, with some variation from seafood. Some may add vegetable oils or fats.
As the percentage of fats comes down, and carbs go up, it is easier to add in fats from plants.
My fats are usually around 75%, and coconut oil makes up a good sized portion of that.0 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »Buildingit3157 wrote: »I am interested in what type of fats comprise the 80% figure... would that mean bacon and eggs or almonds and avocado? Or both?
gotta watch out for almonds they have a few more carbs than say macadamia nuts. anything more than a handful and you can start racking up the carbs.
can always cook with butter or bacon fat to add fat to your meat and veggies. just keep track of how much.
How about supplements everyone??? I take a multi but should I change that? My calcium and iron looks low from logging anyway. What do you all take?
Here was a recent discussion about supplements.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10363620/what-and-why-supplements#latest
But also check out the info in this post.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10358179/dizzy-weak-tired-headaches-cramping-muscles-electrolyte-imbalance-may-be-your-problem#latest
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So I do both ketonix and blood ketone. The ketonix registers the acetone and the blood will register the bhb. I am trying to see a correlation, but the ketonix will always register low 40s for me whereas blood ketones (depending on the time of day) will register .5 to 1.1
Thanks. Any particular tips for reliable yet cost-effective testing habits?
Don't bother with ketostix:
http://ketogains.com/2015/08/dont-fall-victim-to-ketone-envy-ever-wanted-to-know-what-it-means-to-have-more-or-less-ketones-and-how-should-we-measure-them/If you can leave this thread with one piece of knowledge it’s to stop using ketostix.
They are not for people in nutritional ketosis. They are for diabietic to ensure they aren’t going to go into diabetic ketoacidosis, which isn’t a problem for those with normal insulin function. The only thing you’ll do by using ketostix is freak yourself out wondering if that normal or if you did something wrong. Also, at worst case scenario, you could’ve done something wrong (eaten too many carbs) and caused ketones to stop being used because your body is trying to metabolize the glucose first so it flushes the ketones out of your urine and you think “whew, I’m still in ketosis” when in reality *you are only seeing ketones because you are not in ketosis.* See why they are misleading? There are many other backwards cases and I’m not going to go into them. Just don’t use the stix. Thank you.
https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/wiki/faq#wiki_all_about_ketostixSince Ketostix™ only register relative concentrations, rather than absolute amounts, changes in hydration state can affect the concentration of ketones which appear. A high water intake tends to dilute urinary ketone concentrations giving lighter readings. Ketones in the urine simply indicate an overproduction of ketones such that excess spill into the urine. So it is conceivable for someone to be in ketosis without showing urinary ketones.
Some individuals can never get past trace ketosis, while others always seem to show darker readings. There seems to be little rhyme or reason as to why some individuals will always show deep concentrations of urinary ketones while others will not. Some will show higher urinary ketones after a high fat meal, suggesting that dietary fat is being converted to ketones which are then excreted. Consuming medium chain triglycerides (MCT’s) has the same effect. Other individuals seem to only register ketones on the stick after extensive aerobic exercise. Finally, there appear to be daily changes in ketone concentrations, caused by fluctuations in hormone levels. Generally ketone concentrations are smaller in the morning and larger in the evening, reaching a peak at midnight. Many individuals report high ketones at night but show no urinary ketones the next morning while others report the opposite.0 -
Oh my Goodness! I woke up today (day 5 since I restarted ketosis) and the fog has lifted! Haha yay! I have energy oh my.0
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I am interested in what type of fats comprise the 80% figure... would that mean bacon and eggs or almonds and avocado? Or both?
If someone is at 80% fats they are probably going for a carnivorous diet and aiming for no carbs (or plant foods). If fats are 80%, most would probably be saturated or monounsaturated fats from meats, dairy and eggs, with some variation from seafood. Some may add vegetable oils or fats.
As the percentage of fats comes down, and carbs go up, it is easier to add in fats from plants.
My fats are usually around 75%, and coconut oil makes up a good sized portion of that.
Actually, a carnivorous diet only sits around 60-70% fat, naturally, surprisingly enough. Even with adding things like sour cream and butter, I've had a hard time pushing that 80% mark as a carnivore without just eating a bunch of fat by itself. @FIT_Goat's hamburger experiment has his fat only about 75% with the fattiest hamburger he can get his hands on. It is certainly possible to do it, but you generally have to consciously put forth effort into doing so.
An 80% fat diet would more likely be classical, therapeutic ketogenic. Some can rely a lot on vegetable oils, though coconut oil supplementation has become popular.0 -
I agree @Dragonwolf because without heavy coconut oil usage I do not think I could do 80%. I do therapeutic ketogenic to slow my death rate.
Folks I almost waited too late to learn how to eat for life instead of eating for death without knowing it.
Most of you are not 65 and messed up like me so make the WOE change that fits your own needs and do not look back. If I had done this at age 25 I expect I would have lived a normal life.0
