What is going on? Is keto not working for me?

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  • dmariet116
    dmariet116 Posts: 530 Member
    @dmariet116 That's what I did this week....I just ate mainly fat with carbs under 20 (most days (one day was 21 and another was 24), but boy oh boy my calories are nearly 2000. Some days they are only 1500-1600. I am working on not counting calories, just keeping my protein moderate an my carbs low. Yesterday, I added even Kerrygold butter to my chicken bouillon...LOL!!!
    All this, yet.....still only miniscuile changes in measurements

    @saltysailors every little bit of change is good! Are you taking measurements and weighing? Maybe take some pictures for reference.. I really wish I had. I spent the past 5 years or so AVOIDING the camera.... eeek! :#

    Just keep the positive attitude, carbs low and keep hitting your protein requirements and the rest will fall into place. :)





  • 8healthy3
    8healthy3 Posts: 11 Member
    For me, as soon as I eat too much cheese or milk, I start gaining!
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    edited August 2016
    dmariet116 wrote: »
    @dmariet116 That's what I did this week....I just ate mainly fat with carbs under 20 (most days (one day was 21 and another was 24), but boy oh boy my calories are nearly 2000. Some days they are only 1500-1600. I am working on not counting calories, just keeping my protein moderate an my carbs low. Yesterday, I added even Kerrygold butter to my chicken bouillon...LOL!!!
    All this, yet.....still only miniscuile changes in measurements

    @saltysailors every little bit of change is good! Are you taking measurements and weighing? Maybe take some pictures for reference.. I really wish I had. I spent the past 5 years or so AVOIDING the camera.... eeek! :#

    Just keep the positive attitude, carbs low and keep hitting your protein requirements and the rest will fall into place. :)

    Excellent advice, @dmariet116 !

    I might also suggest giving this a try:
    • Keep a calorie target derived using a 10-15% calorie deficit on one of the keto-calculators (see the LCD Launch Pad for links); and
    • Set a strict daily "lockdown" calorie ceiling around 200 higher, which you never exceed. (Going into lockdown earlier in the day, if triggered, will also give you a longer fast before your first meal the next day.)

    Good luck!
  • Dragonwolf
    Dragonwolf Posts: 5,600 Member
    @dmariet116 That's what I did this week....I just ate mainly fat with carbs under 20 (most days (one day was 21 and another was 24), but boy oh boy my calories are nearly 2000. Some days they are only 1500-1600. I am working on not counting calories, just keeping my protein moderate an my carbs low. Yesterday, I added even Kerrygold butter to my chicken bouillon...LOL!!!
    All this, yet.....still only miniscuile changes in measurements

    What's your goal caloric intake?

    Don't be afraid of a swing of a few hundred calories (I'd say up to about 400-500 either way). Don't force yourself to eat if you're not hungry, and don't force yourself to "starve" if you are. Odds are very good that you'll even out over the course of a week or two to your daily goal.

    The body is a running tally. It doesn't reset each day like the calculators do. As a result, longer spans of time tend to be more accurate for things like intake trends.

    The same goes for weight loss trends. Even in the best of circumstances that I managed to do for myself, the scale would not move for weeks at a time. It would literally take a solid month before I'd get a "woosh" on the scale and "suddenly" drop about 5 pounds. Week to week? No movement, or possibly even an increase. If I just went by the week-to-week numbers, I would have given up long before seeing the results that were actually happening.
  • RowdysLady
    RowdysLady Posts: 1,370 Member
    kmn118 wrote: »
    I have found that relaxing my mind (e.g. sitting still for 5 minutes and listening to a golden oldie, watching the water from shore, etc.) helps stave off mind hunger. As the hunger cues become more obvious, less food is needed for satiety. As I am less hungry, I eat less fat and burn my own stores.

    You are my goddess...teach me to relax my mind...I couldn't do that if I was in a coma. I wish I could, I just can't. Rowdy is forever telling me "you think too much". About everything..good, bad, indifferent...sigh.
  • RowdysLady
    RowdysLady Posts: 1,370 Member
    8healthy3 wrote: »
    For me, as soon as I eat too much cheese or milk, I start gaining!

    This.
  • saltysailors
    saltysailors Posts: 101 Member
    edited August 2016
    dmariet116 wrote: »
    @dmariet116 That's what I did this week....I just ate mainly fat with carbs under 20 (most days (one day was 21 and another was 24), but boy oh boy my calories are nearly 2000. Some days they are only 1500-1600. I am working on not counting calories, just keeping my protein moderate an my carbs low. Yesterday, I added even Kerrygold butter to my chicken bouillon...LOL!!!
    All this, yet.....still only miniscuile changes in measurements

    @saltysailors every little bit of change is good! Are you taking measurements and weighing? Maybe take some pictures for reference.. I really wish I had. I spent the past 5 years or so AVOIDING the camera.... eeek! :#

    Just keep the positive attitude, carbs low and keep hitting your protein requirements and the rest will fall into place. :)




    I have been doing measurements, no pictures...I kind of avoid the camera.....I only weighed myself once at my son's house over 4th of July weekend....I don't have a scale at this home! I will take a picture...ugh!

  • saltysailors
    saltysailors Posts: 101 Member
    Dragonwolf wrote: »
    @dmariet116 That's what I did this week....I just ate mainly fat with carbs under 20 (most days (one day was 21 and another was 24), but boy oh boy my calories are nearly 2000. Some days they are only 1500-1600. I am working on not counting calories, just keeping my protein moderate an my carbs low. Yesterday, I added even Kerrygold butter to my chicken bouillon...LOL!!!
    All this, yet.....still only miniscuile changes in measurements

    What's your goal caloric intake?

    Don't be afraid of a swing of a few hundred calories (I'd say up to about 400-500 either way). Don't force yourself to eat if you're not hungry, and don't force yourself to "starve" if you are. Odds are very good that you'll even out over the course of a week or two to your daily goal.

    The body is a running tally. It doesn't reset each day like the calculators do. As a result, longer spans of time tend to be more accurate for things like intake trends.

    The same goes for weight loss trends. Even in the best of circumstances that I managed to do for myself, the scale would not move for weeks at a time. It would literally take a solid month before I'd get a "woosh" on the scale and "suddenly" drop about 5 pounds. Week to week? No movement, or possibly even an increase. If I just went by the week-to-week numbers, I would have given up long before seeing the results that were actually happening.

    I keep changing my goal calorie intake! I think initially I had it way too low at 1300 and I was hungry all the time while I was trying to get fat adapted....then I upped it to 2000 after I read you need it higher while in that phase...( but I had already been working at it 4-5weeks, so I might have messed that up) the I went down to 1400, but I kept going over (just a little, but it drove me crazy for MFP to keep red flagging me) so I upped it back to 2000 just to keep me mentally positive! Finally.....I finally am getting to the point where I am not feeling as hungry. I think I was having too much protein at once with carbs. While I am trying to keep the carbs at or below 20, sometimes I hit 24 ( these are total, not net) I was trying to make sure I hit my protein, but what I didn't take into account was that if I skipped a meal when I tried to make up the protein....I think it was not being utilized, but turning to glucose??? But I don't want to lose muscle....I want to lose fat! I do notice now that my calories vary from 1400-1500 on one day then 1900-2000 on another...but I feel like the variety is a good thing....keeps my body guessing so it won't further slow down my already SLOW metabolism! I am 2-1/2 months into this WOE and still have only minutely measurable changes.....but progress is progress...not matter how small
  • saltysailors
    saltysailors Posts: 101 Member
    RalfLott wrote: »
    dmariet116 wrote: »
    @dmariet116 That's what I did this week....I just ate mainly fat with carbs under 20 (most days (one day was 21 and another was 24), but boy oh boy my calories are nearly 2000. Some days they are only 1500-1600. I am working on not counting calories, just keeping my protein moderate an my carbs low. Yesterday, I added even Kerrygold butter to my chicken bouillon...LOL!!!
    All this, yet.....still only miniscuile changes in measurements

    @saltysailors every little bit of change is good! Are you taking measurements and weighing? Maybe take some pictures for reference.. I really wish I had. I spent the past 5 years or so AVOIDING the camera.... eeek! :#

    Just keep the positive attitude, carbs low and keep hitting your protein requirements and the rest will fall into place. :)

    Excellent advice, @dmariet116 !

    I might also suggest giving this a try:
    • Keep a calorie target derived using a 10-15% calorie deficit on one of the keto-calculators (see the LCD Launch Pad for links); and
    • Set a strict daily "lockdown" calorie ceiling around 200 higher, which you never exceed. (Going into lockdown earlier in the day, if triggered, will also give you a longer fast before your first meal the next day.)

    Good luck!
    RalfLott wrote: »
    dmariet116 wrote: »
    @dmariet116 That's what I did this week....I just ate mainly fat with carbs under 20 (most days (one day was 21 and another was 24), but boy oh boy my calories are nearly 2000. Some days they are only 1500-1600. I am working on not counting calories, just keeping my protein moderate an my carbs low. Yesterday, I added even Kerrygold butter to my chicken bouillon...LOL!!!
    All this, yet.....still only miniscuile changes in measurements

    @saltysailors every little bit of change is good! Are you taking measurements and weighing? Maybe take some pictures for reference.. I really wish I had. I spent the past 5 years or so AVOIDING the camera.... eeek! :#

    Just keep the positive attitude, carbs low and keep hitting your protein requirements and the rest will fall into place. :)

    Excellent advice, @dmariet116 !

    I might also suggest giving this a try:
    • Keep a calorie target derived using a 10-15% calorie deficit on one of the keto-calculators (see the LCD Launch Pad for links); and
    • Set a strict daily "lockdown" calorie ceiling around 200 higher, which you never exceed. (Going into lockdown earlier in the day, if triggered, will also give you a longer fast before your first meal the next day.)

    Good luck!
    I can try that....I sure wouldn't want to hit that "lockdown" calorie ceiling early....if I were to hit it at say 1:00, I would be starving way before I went to bed! I thought you weren't supposed to "go hungry" either.....eat when hungry, until start to feel satisfied, not stuffed, and don't eat if not hungry!
  • NonnaTurtle
    NonnaTurtle Posts: 105 Member
    8healthy3 wrote: »
    For me, as soon as I eat too much cheese or milk, I start gaining!

    Ha! Same here. :( Love-Hate relationship with cheese and cream *sigh*
  • saltysailors
    saltysailors Posts: 101 Member
    lodro wrote: »
    lithezebra wrote: »
    I think you should consider what your weaknesses are. Mine is fat, as much as it was ever carbs. I just lost 6 pounds eating moderately low carb, with more vegetables, higher protein, and cutting back on heavy whipping cream. That didn't happen when I was netting 20 grams of carbs/day and eating more fat. I haven't been drinking anything but water.

    There a few days when I'm not very hungry.....but others where I am more hungry...I'm still trying to figure it all out...when I cut back on fat, I get hungry....I actually just upped my calories a few weeks ago to see how that goes. I figure once my body heals and I get more fat adapted, then I can lower my calories

    That's how it worked for me. It took me about 3 months to make that change.

    I'm about 2-1/2 months into this WOE, so I figure I still have a way to go before I see results. I am just not like everyone else who see immediate results. And, I just have to accept that. I see so many others that just drop off the weight "I lost 30 pounds in 3 months, etc., ...." That is not going to happen to me....obviously....LOL! But, I am just going to keep on ketoing on and keep adjusting until I get it right!

  • saltysailors
    saltysailors Posts: 101 Member
    tribal351 wrote: »
    I found some foods I like early on in the program, and eat nearly the same diet every day. 3 eggs and a sausage (Aidells smoked chicken with habanero and jack cheese) for breakfast. Tuna, spinach, mayo and Parmesan cheese crisps for lunch. 2 eggs, another sausage, made into tacos with high fiber-low carb tortillas with white queso. Fits my macros perfectly with a 200-ish calorie deficit. Weekends I use trying out different keto recipes, will occasionally go over on calories but it keeps me interested. I may find something that can enter the daily rotation.

    Plan your meals, do some research to find items you like that you can eat consistently. Weekends stick to macros, but be willing to change the diet up a bit to keep it interesting and don't worry as much about calorie deficit.

    I need to do more planning! We have been renovating our home.....finally finished! And, it is now on the market. So, I haven't wanted to do a lot of planning and cooking because of that. Now, that it is done and on the market, I still don't want to do a lot of cooking because of the clean-up and I don't want a ton of groceries in the house that I have to pack up when we move. I have been trying to keep things simple for now.....I bake bacon in the oven a whole package at a time, boil eggs a dozen at a time, homemade mayo for deviled eggs, and meat....steaks, chicken thighs and hamburger. Avocados, cauliflower, cabbage,and Romaine lettuce. Changed or stopped several vegetables I was using, because they were higher carb... I keep forgetting about tomatoes, onions and peppers and how high carb they are (comparatively). I eat them, then when I log....I realize yikes! Too many carbs! So, I definitely NEED to plan ahead and I should pre-log to make sure......
    For today, I will plan my day and pre-log. I can do it one day at a time