To caffeine or not to caffeine!

kirstie1978
kirstie1978 Posts: 29 Member
I did low carb a few years ago and was told to avoid caffeine as it can mimic insulin spike. However I recall reading they have also recently decided caffeine is good for your metabolism?! I tend to drink caffeine until afternoon about 2/3pm and decaf thereafter (before all this decaf was a banned word for me!) so just wanted to see people's thoughts etc. Thanks
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  • Carnivorekat
    Carnivorekat Posts: 370 Member
    I have to admit I am drinking decaf as I tend to drink too much coffee - but I haven't seen any problems when I was drinking caffeine with the woe
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    I consume caffeine and, because I'm a type 1 diabetic, I'm testing my BG several times every day. I don't notice any BG spike (which for a non-T1D is what would cause an insulin spike). If it mimics an insulin spike without actually creating an insulin spike, then wouldn't the effect by hypoglycemia? I haven't heard that it is common for non-diabetic coffee-drinkers to have low BG. This is very confusing to me.
  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
    edited June 2016
    If caffeine could cause such, I'd never get into ketosis, and I have no problem staying there. I tend to throw down well over 1000 mg of caffeine on a daily basis.

    ETA: never not caffeine.
  • NattySchmatty
    NattySchmatty Posts: 103 Member
    I'm new to this but I have been steadily losing and haven't given up my coffee. I have a large one in the morning and then again after lunch. I quit the powdered creamer though.
  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
    I'm new to this but I have been steadily losing and haven't given up my coffee. I have a large one in the morning and then again after lunch. I quit the powdered creamer though.

    I used to use flavored liquid creamers, and my god were they horrible at keeping me from dropping weight. It was just too easy to overuse the stuff. These days, I just drink it black, unless I am making BPC in the morning.
  • DianaElena76
    DianaElena76 Posts: 1,241 Member
    I'll stop drinking coffee when they pry it out of my cold, dead hands. No disrespect intended.

    This.
  • NattySchmatty
    NattySchmatty Posts: 103 Member
    These days, I just drink it black, unless I am making BPC in the morning.

    I haven't tried BPC yet. I probably should. How do you make yours?

  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    I've never heard that it can spike insulin before. The only reasons I'm aware that someone might avoid it are related to how they feel or because of the neurotoxicity associated with it. However, even Dave Asprey drinks coffee and that dude is a nut case about avoiding things that are harmful. Lol
    He of course, only drinks his coffee though. :smiley:
  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
    edited June 2016
    These days, I just drink it black, unless I am making BPC in the morning.

    I haven't tried BPC yet. I probably should. How do you make yours?

    2 cups (16 oz.) Eight O'clock Hazelnut
    2 tbsp. unsalted butter
    2 tbsp Coconut oil
    1 tbsp heavy cream
    1 tbsp Vanilla extract

    Hit them with a blender of some sort (I use an immersion blender), consume the delicious, fatty goodness.
  • SuperCarLori
    SuperCarLori Posts: 1,248 Member
    These days, I just drink it black, unless I am making BPC in the morning.

    I haven't tried BPC yet. I probably should. How do you make yours?

    2 cups Eight O'clock Hazelnut
    2 tbsp. unsalted butter
    2 tbsp Coconut oil
    1 tbsp heavy cream
    1 tbsp Vanilla extract

    Hit them with a blender of some sort (I use an immersion blender), consume the delicious, fatty goodness.

    I'm drooling...
  • Kimo159
    Kimo159 Posts: 508 Member
    These days, I just drink it black, unless I am making BPC in the morning.

    I haven't tried BPC yet. I probably should. How do you make yours?

    2 cups (16 oz.) Eight O'clock Hazelnut
    2 tbsp. unsalted butter
    2 tbsp Coconut oil
    1 tbsp heavy cream
    1 tbsp Vanilla extract

    Hit them with a blender of some sort (I use an immersion blender), consume the delicious, fatty goodness.

    Yummm... I usually only do butter, coconut oil and heavy cream. 1tbsp of each. But hazelnut coffee and vanilla extract on top of that....that sounds amazing!
  • NattySchmatty
    NattySchmatty Posts: 103 Member
    I know right?! That sounds amazing.
  • Kimo159
    Kimo159 Posts: 508 Member
    Yeah, I don't really care what it does to my body. I will not give up my morning cuppa. I love coffee so much.
  • NattySchmatty
    NattySchmatty Posts: 103 Member
    edited June 2016
    Another BPC question- Do you eat breakfast with it or have it instead? I've read different things... I feel like this is something I can really get into. I seriously love coffee.
  • Kimo159
    Kimo159 Posts: 508 Member
    Another BPC question- Do you eat breakfast with it or have it instead? I've read different things... I feel like this is something I can really get into. I seriously love coffee.

    The first few days I had it with breakfast. Then I thought I would try to just have it alone and eat breakfast a bit later. I'm finding I'm not hungry until about 2-3 hours after I drink my BPC.
  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
    edited June 2016
    Another BPC question- Do you eat breakfast with it or have it instead? I've read different things... I feel like this is something I can really get into. I seriously love coffee.

    I normally just have it by itself. It's about 500 calories all on it's own.

    ETA: after that's gone, if I feel like I need more caffeine, I'll just roll through another cup or five, black.
  • KarlaYP
    KarlaYP Posts: 4,436 Member
    I drink lots of coffee (30 oz. "Yeti" cup, and I drink one and a half cups a day), but I do half caf, but will have full strength if that's all that's available. Also, I use just hwc (1 tbsp to approximately 10 oz.). Used to do the sugar free syrup, but sucralose isn't kind to my body!

    I drink this almost everyday then am not hungry until around noon time.
  • dmariet116
    dmariet116 Posts: 530 Member
    Gotta have my coffee!!! Heavy cream always and sometimes butter or coconut oil. I only drink this in the morning though. 2 cups is my limit
  • kpk54
    kpk54 Posts: 4,474 Member
    I drink decaf everything. Good thing. The BPC recipe above caused me to leave the computer and make another pot just to try it with vanilla. If not decaf, I'd be up all night.

    BTW: Vanilla is an awesome addition! Thanks for that!
  • RowdysLady
    RowdysLady Posts: 1,370 Member
    I added caffeine in the form of BPC I had two cups this morning and stay in ketosis just fine :smile:
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    I think coffee actually helped me to lose weight early on. I was never big on coffee unless it had a lot of cream in it but I was up to about 5 cups a day of regular coffee. Then I quit dairy a few weeks ago and after one cup of black coffee I said no more. There was Zero impact from stopping coffee cold turkey. On this WOE if I decide I do not like something then it is history. :)

    I am down to 1 tablespoon of coconut oil in a cup of green tea first thing each morning.
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    I just add MCT or coconut oil and occasionally butter. I actually prefer salted butter...
    I skip the cream but when I add butter it's creamy to me.
    I sometimes have coffee later in the day too and I'm more likely to add cream and coconut manna at that time of day. (no MCT, coconut oil or butter). If I'm skipping lunch, I'll still add one or two of those things to keep me going.
  • treehugnmama
    treehugnmama Posts: 816 Member
    I was a tea drinker but I didn't really like it without sugar so I switched to herbal teas no caffine. I do make sugar free fraps a couple times a week mmmm but I use caffine free so a family member that can't have caffine can share.
  • KarlynKeto
    KarlynKeto Posts: 323 Member
    edited June 2016
    Coffee is a BIG part of my diet, I couldn't imagine doing Keto without it. I only drink 2-3 cups per day, but dang I do love every single drop. It doesn't impact insulin for me. I've read some of the anti caffeine theories and they are as weak as my dads cheap coffee (pun intended!!) There is much research that says caffeine has its benefits too, so that is what I chose to believe.
  • karebear5891
    karebear5891 Posts: 141 Member
    I love coffee. I don't drink it for the caffeine, though the caffeine addiction has been a side effect. I love how it tastes, I love sipping it, I love the smell of it. I'd never make it if I had to give it up. The BPC has made my life, and I thoroughly enjoy my drink of it every morning :smiley:
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    I just add MCT or coconut oil and occasionally butter. I actually prefer salted butter...
    I skip the cream but when I add butter it's creamy to me.
    I sometimes have coffee later in the day too and I'm more likely to add cream and coconut manna at that time of day. (no MCT, coconut oil or butter). If I'm skipping lunch, I'll still add one or two of those things to keep me going.

    Quick refresher? . What's the advantage of MCT oil over coconut oil?
  • budonyan
    budonyan Posts: 38 Member
    I drink black coffee like all day and I still have lost 15 pounds so it works for me!