What is up with this trend I'm seeing???
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That's about what my taco salads look like, though, admittedly, I also like to to throw in some black olive slices and sometimes skip the salsa in favor of some fresh tomato, sometimes I also put in jalapenos!1
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I don't get it either. In the past 11 months I've had two meals that weren't technically keto. I don't call them cheats because it was controlled, special occasions, and I had zero guilt. Plus I still probably didn't top 100 carbs for the day. One was my bday lasagna which I've had every year since I've eaten solid food. Gluten free due to celiac. The other was a gluten free cupcake on a day trip we took for our 10th anniversary. I was right back super low carb the next meal. No cravings. Still in ketosis the next day. Probably because I'm fully fat adapted and these two meals were 5 months apart! If I wanted to I'm sure I could find an excuse to eat cake or whatever weekly but why??? I'd never have fully fat adapted if I did that...
Also workouts. My first run after a full year off was better than when I ran regularly. The only difference was keto. I run and do higher intensity workouts with nearly zero carbs most days and have no problems. I think these people jump in and out and screw up their electrolytes...then it's an endless cycle where they think they need carb refeeds for performance.4 -
anewlifeat40 wrote: »RowdysLady wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »I get stuff tastes good, but lots of stuff I eat tastes good.
THIS. I'm sick of people asking me how the *kitten* I live without sugar, pasta, bread, etc. and I am a broken record, saying "I'm not deprived. I am loving every bite."
Heck - if it doesn't taste good I don't eat it. Why would I eat something I don't like just because it fits into my WOE? When I ate low fat for all those years I didn't eat rice cakes because they suck. So why would anyone do that now? There are so many wonderful foods in our WOE that just hit home for me. Tonight I sliced a pork roast up in thin slices and made pork/veggie stir fry and can I just tell you...it tastes wonderful with nearly no carbs - and the carbs that are in it are from veggies....oh so good!
Today I posted these pics of the taco salad I had for dinner and the keto crepes I had for lunch on my FB page and everyone was drooling over the pics... Total net carbs for these two very filling delicious meals was 24. I'll take this way of eating and feeling THIS great over crap carbs ANY day!
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Those crepes look like my breakfast tomorrow...recipe? *beg beg*3 -
I wouldn't worry too much about the vlogs if they don't line up with your way of doing things. Everyone will find a different way that works best for them.
There are likely just as many if not more sites that don't advocate partial keto weeks or cheat days, follow the ones that appeal to you. No need to understand why others don't do it that way, like someone else mentioned the science of long term studies on nutrition are still few so no one really knows the one true best way to do this, their likely isn't one. Everyone is just trying to find their path, it's unfortunate to see others being judged for their diet choices not meeting certain standards.6 -
Yes, indeed. Even in an ideal world, different folks would find their way to different diets. (Just looking at the compadres in our little world, some need a substantial wad of fiber in their daily diets, while others are left moaning if they consume more than a small amount....)
It does seem that the best of the nutrition gurus out there (Phinney, Volek, D'Agostino, Taubes, Noakes, Westman, Ames, Patrick, Perlmutter, etc.) are the ones who take pains to emphasize the profound individual differences we bring to the table.2 -
@auntstephie321 I don't think we mean to be judging anyone. It's just that when you are looking for accounts to follow you see #keto or whatever and then it's not keto. So it's frustrating. It kind of spreads misinformation to people who are just learning. Keto is not the right diet for everyone and that's fine! No judgement so long as they don't cloud the water by labeling their cheat meal #keto.
I have the same frustration when I see people without celiac make a big deal of ordering gluten free and then at the end of the meal get a regular dessert. That leads servers and other diners to assume all gluten free eaters do it by choice and isn't something to take seriously.
So basically eat how you feel your best. Just don't label it as something it isn't.3 -
Meh. She'd lose that scary wide backside if she did keto. Or not.... I wonder what she had "done" to end up looking like that. It's a bit weird, IMO.
It's the best smile she's got...... (which ain't sayin' much).
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Those crepes look like my breakfast tomorrow...recipe? *beg beg*
This is my personal blog... have at her!
https://anewlifeatforty.wordpress.com/2016/07/30/cream-cheese-crepes-recipe/
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auntstephie321 wrote: »I wouldn't worry too much about the vlogs if they don't line up with your way of doing things. Everyone will find a different way that works best for them.
There are likely just as many if not more sites that don't advocate partial keto weeks or cheat days, follow the ones that appeal to you. No need to understand why others don't do it that way, like someone else mentioned the science of long term studies on nutrition are still few so no one really knows the one true best way to do this, their likely isn't one. Everyone is just trying to find their path, it's unfortunate to see others being judged for their diet choices not meeting certain standards.
As a newb doing this for the first time, understanding everything is my main goal... LOL My whole issue is I don't HAVE a standard, I don't know enough to judge, it's all a great big sea of different approaches, so if I never question anything that seems weird I'm going to end up unintentionally sabotaging my goals... Of COURSE I'd love to have my cake and eat it too, but from what I've experienced and know so far, it seemed off to me... this group is a conglomeration of super informative and knowledgeable people, who also happen to be nice and supportive, so this felt like the natural place to ask questions about it.0 -
@anewlifeat40, that's a beautiful blog! Very nicely presented and beautiful food pix.
Congrats - you're clearly on the path to success: a lifetime of better health.1 -
@anewlifeat40, that's a beautiful blog! Very nicely presented and beautiful food pix.
Congrats - you're clearly on the path to success: a lifetime of better health.
Thanks! You just made my day! 2 -
Carbs are bad for me.
It would be like cycling poison and somehow thinking it is good to cycle carbs.
The lower carb body management system works. It isn't a diet. It has been a 3 year body transformation and completely new lifestyle
Cycling the old failed way of living in with the new successful one is crazy to me.
Just my opinion and if it works for others, rock on.
But no, so much no.2 -
anewlifeat40 wrote: »@anewlifeat40, that's a beautiful blog! Very nicely presented and beautiful food pix.
Congrats - you're clearly on the path to success: a lifetime of better health.
Thanks! You just made my day!
My pleasure! (But you did all the work.)1 -
auntstephie321 wrote: »I wouldn't worry too much about the vlogs if they don't line up with your way of doing things. Everyone will find a different way that works best for them.
There are likely just as many if not more sites that don't advocate partial keto weeks or cheat days, follow the ones that appeal to you. No need to understand why others don't do it that way, like someone else mentioned the science of long term studies on nutrition are still few so no one really knows the one true best way to do this, their likely isn't one. Everyone is just trying to find their path, it's unfortunate to see others being judged for their diet choices not meeting certain standards.
I'm not judging people finding the way that works for them, I just don't like bad science. It's also impossible to overstate the impact individual psychology and belief systems impact people's eating habits.
If people are cycling junk food and carbs and getting results, I'm happy for them. However, it's 97-99% likely that five years from now they will be just as heavy or heavier than they have ever been, precisely because they didn't address their ineffective psychology and belief systems.
It's like the alcoholic that insists on hanging out in bars. A few can do it, the huge majority cannot.1 -
anewlifeat40 wrote: »@anewlifeat40, that's a beautiful blog! Very nicely presented and beautiful food pix.
Congrats - you're clearly on the path to success: a lifetime of better health.
Thanks! You just made my day!
I totally agree! I've put you on my favorites list and will be keeping an eye on that really nice blog! Thank you for sharing
Now, off to buy ingredients! 1 -
I still struggle with binge eating issues and never choose to have cheat days but know they are going to happen every so often, if I were to plan them in, I would end up on longer binges I am hoping to get to the point where I am happy and not bingeing this is my ultimate goal1
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kathrout1973 wrote: »I still struggle with binge eating issues and never choose to have cheat days but know they are going to happen every so often, if I were to plan them in, I would end up on longer binges I am hoping to get to the point where I am happy and not bingeing this is my ultimate goal
One clever counter-cheat maneuver I've heard folks attest to here is to log the cheat foods ASAP (and while you're there, maybe steal a quick peek at your remaining macros...).
If you're not happy, hard to see how a binge is going to help much.... but then, if you log your cheat and then stop, you'll have something to be proud of: finding the emergency brake!
Good luck - hang in there, and imagine how nice it will be to look back in 1, 3, 6 months and marvel at your progress!4 -
Cheat days? Yeah I've had two of those and my digestive issues flared up. So what's the point of having them when I'll be in pain each week? Lol0
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I could never plan a cheat day or carb refeed. I have struggled with binge eating my whole life and I am definitely an emotional eater. I just had a really bad stressful week and decided to have some low carb beer to help me relax. Well that led to 3 beers, a donut and and 2 ice cream sandwiches last night!!!
Now I have to keep my head straight so not to turn a 1 day binge into a complete derailment.
I personally need to stay the course 100%.2 -
Wanted to add, I am having a chicken wrap tonight for dinner. However it's still low carb. Something like 35g net carbs and 49g total carbs for the day.
I somehow effortlessly manage to keep my carb intake at 5-15g a day. So, it's well within my carb budget to have 1 wrap or 1 slice of bread or whatever. Hoping this doesn't screw me up again (digestive wise). LOL.
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The responses here really highlight my point from earlier. You cannot take an eating method used by the elite (who have no self-control issues, and generally use gear) for mass and strength building, drop it into the wild as a typical dieting method, and expect it to work worth a damn.
It's like people who go into Atkins, assuming that they'll be able to keep eating 4000 kcal/day, just changing it from Cheetos to bacon, and expecting weight to fall off. The understanding of how and why has gotten so lost on the internet these days; it's almosy become surreal.5 -
"Refeed" sounds eerily like recycling, i.e., snacking on your own puke.
I won't even get into what "carb refeed" sounds like......2 -
anewlifeat40 wrote: »@anewlifeat40, that's a beautiful blog! Very nicely presented and beautiful food pix.
Congrats - you're clearly on the path to success: a lifetime of better health.
Thanks! You just made my day!
I totally agree! I've put you on my favorites list and will be keeping an eye on that really nice blog! Thank you for sharing Now, off to buy ingredients!
Cool! Thanks... Now I'll be more motivated to try new recipes and keep posting. 1 -
anewlifeat40 wrote: »anewlifeat40 wrote: »@anewlifeat40, that's a beautiful blog! Very nicely presented and beautiful food pix.
Congrats - you're clearly on the path to success: a lifetime of better health.
Thanks! You just made my day!
I totally agree! I've put you on my favorites list and will be keeping an eye on that really nice blog! Thank you for sharing Now, off to buy ingredients!
Cool! Thanks... Now I'll be more motivated to try new recipes and keep posting.
Please!1 -
It doesn't work for me and has triggered the return of bad habits and bad attitude. I'm struggling to get back to my former keto successes, and won't be fooled again.1
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I use them....but then for me keto is not a WOE. I need the variety and as i dont' like a lot of low carb foods (veggies...anything from the sea) I get bored quickly so the cheat meals give me that variety. I am fortunate to be able to control it and get right back on the wagon for the next meal so it's no additional risk.
I have also personally found cheat days to break weight loss stalling. I have seen repeatedly over the past 17 years I've used LCHF and keto that I can break through a plateau quickly and because I'm not patient by nature it's a win win
For me life is too short not to enjoy foods that I enjoy..but I respect that my situation is unique.2 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »
A lot of Strongman athletes will use pre-workout carb-ups, as will many powerlifters. These usually include a LOT of fast digesting sugars, like dextrose, and various refined sugars. This is because of their volume and intensity. Keto is great for endurance. It's *kitten* for intensity. When every move you make while training is an explosive one, loss of explosive performance won't do.GlitterRayne wrote: »To me it seems like they are taking carb ups or carbcycling to an extreme. I've heard that one day of adding more veg, or a sweet potato or something then going back to strict low carb high fat promotes more weight loss. I don't do it but I think that's what's going on. People are misunderstanding what it really is.
Jeff Volek is a powerlifter and one of the longest-running keto advocates. He might take issue with your *kitten* theory.
Volek probably would take issue with it but that doesn't mean Volek is correct.0 -
@anewlifeat40 I cook pretty darn good food but I have to admit it never looks so pretty
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I've learned that even a bite of something carb laden will send my gut over the edge. I made broccoli slaw and took one bite - it has sugar and was miserable almost immediately. That's happened a couple of times which makes it a pattern which means I just won't now. I can't even imagine eating oh say a Reese's Cup. GADS!0
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What derailed me on my low carb go around I first tried when in my teens, was someone advising me to have one cheat day a week. I wasn't gorging on junk. Just allowing whole grains or some rice or wheat pasta. Unfortunately, it wound up derailing me totally. Now, if I want a little cheat, it has to be for a real reason (i.e. One time since I started, I had some fried dough that comes around once a year for the Italian festival in my hometown- then hopped right back in and haven't been off since. One item for one meal.)3
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