LCHF and weight lifting/strength training?
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LolaDeeDaisy23 wrote: »I know everyone says to remain keto during lifting and there's no need to cycle carbs but honestly I feel like my strength is not what it used to be pre-keto. I don't have that power behind my lifts anymore. I feel like I have more intensity when I have higher carb days? Could it be all in my head? I've been keto for a year now.
It won't be the same as when you eat lots of carbs. However, I do think you will still improve. Just on keto level.0 -
LolaDeeDaisy23 wrote: »I know everyone says to remain keto during lifting and there's no need to cycle carbs but honestly I feel like my strength is not what it used to be pre-keto. I don't have that power behind my lifts anymore. I feel like I have more intensity when I have higher carb days? Could it be all in my head? I've been keto for a year now.
If pushing performance is your primary concern, and carbs aren't a problem for you, you could consider a CKD (or modified CKD). I'll personally be sticking strict keto for at least a couple of months, the perhaps switching to APD, then back, and back once more, so I can compare the two through stages of development.
Keep in mind though, by the time I reach month six, and my noob gains are trashed out again, I'll be extremely stim heavy, so my results will probably not be comparable to anything for someone who's not trying to set their internal organs on fire.0 -
Shadowmf023 wrote: »I'm well aware that it takes a LONG time to build actual bigger muscles, and not just strength. My body however, is quite skinnyfat so I will HAVE to go that route. Either by doing a recomp or a few bulk and cuts. Not sure which one is best though. Otherwise I'll just look flabby after I lose the weight.
For now, the goal is just to lose 14-20lb while keeping the (very little) muscle I have. I guess I'll decide what to do after that.
I wouldn't call my trainer competent. Lol. But at least I know what I want. So he has to follow my instruction
While trainers should listen to their clients and design programs tailored towards their goals, if he is not totally competent he may not possess the right knowledge to design said program.
And you being the client, may or may not, know if the program is right for you.
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samanthaluangphixay wrote: »Shadowmf023 wrote: »I'm well aware that it takes a LONG time to build actual bigger muscles, and not just strength. My body however, is quite skinnyfat so I will HAVE to go that route. Either by doing a recomp or a few bulk and cuts. Not sure which one is best though. Otherwise I'll just look flabby after I lose the weight.
For now, the goal is just to lose 14-20lb while keeping the (very little) muscle I have. I guess I'll decide what to do after that.
I wouldn't call my trainer competent. Lol. But at least I know what I want. So he has to follow my instruction
While trainers should listen to their clients and design programs tailored towards their goals, if he is not totally competent he may not possess the right knowledge to design said program.
And you being the client, may or may not, know if the program is right for you.
It definitely has to be a two way street, when it comes to PTs and starting lifting. For example, if something is actually painful for you (not just causing soreness, but actual pain, you'll know the difference), you need to be able to express that, and he needs to listen. At the same time, if you're just being a total sissy one day because of DOMS, he needs to be able to recognize and address this, and you need to be willing to listen.
Every time I see someone on these boards say "wait until soreness is gone before training again", I want to reach through the monitor and slap the lack of understanding out of them.3 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »samanthaluangphixay wrote: »Shadowmf023 wrote: »I'm well aware that it takes a LONG time to build actual bigger muscles, and not just strength. My body however, is quite skinnyfat so I will HAVE to go that route. Either by doing a recomp or a few bulk and cuts. Not sure which one is best though. Otherwise I'll just look flabby after I lose the weight.
For now, the goal is just to lose 14-20lb while keeping the (very little) muscle I have. I guess I'll decide what to do after that.
I wouldn't call my trainer competent. Lol. But at least I know what I want. So he has to follow my instruction
While trainers should listen to their clients and design programs tailored towards their goals, if he is not totally competent he may not possess the right knowledge to design said program.
And you being the client, may or may not, know if the program is right for you.
It definitely has to be a two way street, when it comes to PTs and starting lifting. For example, if something is actually painful for you (not just causing soreness, but actual pain, you'll know the difference), you need to be able to express that, and he needs to listen. At the same time, if you're just being a total sissy one day because of DOMS, he needs to be able to recognize and address this, and you need to be willing to listen.
Every time I see someone on these boards say "wait until soreness is gone before training again", I want to reach through the monitor and slap the lack of understanding out of them.
Mm. I have the opposite problem. I keep going until failure. Which he called me out on once. I'm trying to not do it anymore, but sometimes it's hard to tell when the next one will be " the last one" or "the one before last".
He doesn't train with me though. I exercise alone and just follow his program. I did tell him to keep it heavy.
And I have DOMS this morning. I'm still going to exercise. Just need to walk/bike a little longer for it to go away.
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Shadowmf023 wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »samanthaluangphixay wrote: »Shadowmf023 wrote: »I'm well aware that it takes a LONG time to build actual bigger muscles, and not just strength. My body however, is quite skinnyfat so I will HAVE to go that route. Either by doing a recomp or a few bulk and cuts. Not sure which one is best though. Otherwise I'll just look flabby after I lose the weight.
For now, the goal is just to lose 14-20lb while keeping the (very little) muscle I have. I guess I'll decide what to do after that.
I wouldn't call my trainer competent. Lol. But at least I know what I want. So he has to follow my instruction
While trainers should listen to their clients and design programs tailored towards their goals, if he is not totally competent he may not possess the right knowledge to design said program.
And you being the client, may or may not, know if the program is right for you.
It definitely has to be a two way street, when it comes to PTs and starting lifting. For example, if something is actually painful for you (not just causing soreness, but actual pain, you'll know the difference), you need to be able to express that, and he needs to listen. At the same time, if you're just being a total sissy one day because of DOMS, he needs to be able to recognize and address this, and you need to be willing to listen.
Every time I see someone on these boards say "wait until soreness is gone before training again", I want to reach through the monitor and slap the lack of understanding out of them.
Mm. I have the opposite problem. I keep going until failure. Which he called me out on once. I'm trying to not do it anymore, but sometimes it's hard to tell when the next one will be " the last one" or "the one before last".
He doesn't train with me though. I exercise alone and just follow his program. I did tell him to keep it heavy.
And I have DOMS this morning. I'm still going to exercise. Just need to walk/bike a little longer for it to go away.
Try some Epsom salt baths for those DOMS. They help me when I get cocky and do another set with a new heavy weight.
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samanthaluangphixay wrote: »Shadowmf023 wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »samanthaluangphixay wrote: »Shadowmf023 wrote: »I'm well aware that it takes a LONG time to build actual bigger muscles, and not just strength. My body however, is quite skinnyfat so I will HAVE to go that route. Either by doing a recomp or a few bulk and cuts. Not sure which one is best though. Otherwise I'll just look flabby after I lose the weight.
For now, the goal is just to lose 14-20lb while keeping the (very little) muscle I have. I guess I'll decide what to do after that.
I wouldn't call my trainer competent. Lol. But at least I know what I want. So he has to follow my instruction
While trainers should listen to their clients and design programs tailored towards their goals, if he is not totally competent he may not possess the right knowledge to design said program.
And you being the client, may or may not, know if the program is right for you.
It definitely has to be a two way street, when it comes to PTs and starting lifting. For example, if something is actually painful for you (not just causing soreness, but actual pain, you'll know the difference), you need to be able to express that, and he needs to listen. At the same time, if you're just being a total sissy one day because of DOMS, he needs to be able to recognize and address this, and you need to be willing to listen.
Every time I see someone on these boards say "wait until soreness is gone before training again", I want to reach through the monitor and slap the lack of understanding out of them.
Mm. I have the opposite problem. I keep going until failure. Which he called me out on once. I'm trying to not do it anymore, but sometimes it's hard to tell when the next one will be " the last one" or "the one before last".
He doesn't train with me though. I exercise alone and just follow his program. I did tell him to keep it heavy.
And I have DOMS this morning. I'm still going to exercise. Just need to walk/bike a little longer for it to go away.
Try some Epsom salt baths for those DOMS. They help me when I get cocky and do another set with a new heavy weight.
I'm aware! Going to get some epsom salts from the pharmacy today. Thanks babe
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Shadowmf023 wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »samanthaluangphixay wrote: »Shadowmf023 wrote: »I'm well aware that it takes a LONG time to build actual bigger muscles, and not just strength. My body however, is quite skinnyfat so I will HAVE to go that route. Either by doing a recomp or a few bulk and cuts. Not sure which one is best though. Otherwise I'll just look flabby after I lose the weight.
For now, the goal is just to lose 14-20lb while keeping the (very little) muscle I have. I guess I'll decide what to do after that.
I wouldn't call my trainer competent. Lol. But at least I know what I want. So he has to follow my instruction
While trainers should listen to their clients and design programs tailored towards their goals, if he is not totally competent he may not possess the right knowledge to design said program.
And you being the client, may or may not, know if the program is right for you.
It definitely has to be a two way street, when it comes to PTs and starting lifting. For example, if something is actually painful for you (not just causing soreness, but actual pain, you'll know the difference), you need to be able to express that, and he needs to listen. At the same time, if you're just being a total sissy one day because of DOMS, he needs to be able to recognize and address this, and you need to be willing to listen.
Every time I see someone on these boards say "wait until soreness is gone before training again", I want to reach through the monitor and slap the lack of understanding out of them.
Mm. I have the opposite problem. I keep going until failure. Which he called me out on once. I'm trying to not do it anymore, but sometimes it's hard to tell when the next one will be " the last one" or "the one before last".
He doesn't train with me though. I exercise alone and just follow his program. I did tell him to keep it heavy.
And I have DOMS this morning. I'm still going to exercise. Just need to walk/bike a little longer for it to go away.
Wow, someone who actually understands that moving and using the muscles gets rid of DOMS. I like you more all of the time. Haha.
The most common response I usually see is silly stuff like "take a break", "take it easy", "take the day off", "be a whiny failure like me so I don't feel so bad about it", "abloobloobloo". You made my day better already.
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Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Shadowmf023 wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »samanthaluangphixay wrote: »Shadowmf023 wrote: »I'm well aware that it takes a LONG time to build actual bigger muscles, and not just strength. My body however, is quite skinnyfat so I will HAVE to go that route. Either by doing a recomp or a few bulk and cuts. Not sure which one is best though. Otherwise I'll just look flabby after I lose the weight.
For now, the goal is just to lose 14-20lb while keeping the (very little) muscle I have. I guess I'll decide what to do after that.
I wouldn't call my trainer competent. Lol. But at least I know what I want. So he has to follow my instruction
While trainers should listen to their clients and design programs tailored towards their goals, if he is not totally competent he may not possess the right knowledge to design said program.
And you being the client, may or may not, know if the program is right for you.
It definitely has to be a two way street, when it comes to PTs and starting lifting. For example, if something is actually painful for you (not just causing soreness, but actual pain, you'll know the difference), you need to be able to express that, and he needs to listen. At the same time, if you're just being a total sissy one day because of DOMS, he needs to be able to recognize and address this, and you need to be willing to listen.
Every time I see someone on these boards say "wait until soreness is gone before training again", I want to reach through the monitor and slap the lack of understanding out of them.
Mm. I have the opposite problem. I keep going until failure. Which he called me out on once. I'm trying to not do it anymore, but sometimes it's hard to tell when the next one will be " the last one" or "the one before last".
He doesn't train with me though. I exercise alone and just follow his program. I did tell him to keep it heavy.
And I have DOMS this morning. I'm still going to exercise. Just need to walk/bike a little longer for it to go away.
Wow, someone who actually understands that moving and using the muscles gets rid of DOMS. I like you more all of the time. Haha.
The most common response I usually see is silly stuff like "take a break", "take it easy", "take the day off", "be a whiny failure like me so I don't feel so bad about it", "abloobloobloo". You made my day better already.
Glad to be of service. Lol1 -
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LOL what's that supposed to mean? 0
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