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dancing_daisy wrote: »dmariet116 wrote: »kind of like most of the main forum here on MFP who say that only CICO matter.
A genuine question asked in a friendly way: what other mechanism can cause weight loss? I see people who don't believe in CICO quite often but to me its logic. I can't think of any other system of anatomy that would cause weight loss??
True the basic weight loss concept comes down to CICO, but WHAT you eat can affect so many processes in your body.
For example, look at fructose and glucose. Let's say you eat only fruit and sugars. Fructose and glucose are both found in table sugar. They are also both present in HFCS.
The issue with fructose is that unlike glucose, the cells do not immediately use it for energy. In fact, it is absorbed in the small intestine and goes straight to the liver, where it is converted into fat. This is why there is a condition called non-alcoholic fatty liver. It has to do with excess consumption of the sugar fructose.
I was vegan for over 10 years. I was overweight most of that time. Even when my "weight" was under control, my "FAT" wasn't. I had no muscle tone. I was a skinny fat person.
It is possible to lose WEIGHT with CICO but it is not always possible to lose FAT. If that makes sense.
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dmariet116 wrote: »dancing_daisy wrote: »dmariet116 wrote: »kind of like most of the main forum here on MFP who say that only CICO matter.
A genuine question asked in a friendly way: what other mechanism can cause weight loss? I see people who don't believe in CICO quite often but to me its logic. I can't think of any other system of anatomy that would cause weight loss??
For example, look at fructose and glucose. Let's say you eat only fruit and sugars. Fructose and glucose are both found in table sugar. They are also both present in HFCS.
The issue with fructose is that unlike glucose, the cells do not immediately use it for energy. In fact, it is absorbed in the small intestine and goes straight to the liver, where it is converted into fat. This is why there is a condition called non-alcoholic fatty liver. It has to do with excess consumption of the sugar fructose.
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I understand now people talking about CICO 'not being responsible for weight loss' are also discussing the types of calories/foods we are eating.
I've done a certain amount of Metabolic Biochem and Molecular Chemistry and I can elaborate on your explanation. There are number of different sugar types: glucose, fructose, maltose, sucrose, galactose - all of which are ring structures and sometimes found in chains. The number of Glycosidic bonds holding these structures together differs meaning some require more energy to break than others.
I find it interesting you were vegan and struggled with weight gain, I know a moderator on here was a vegetarian who had similar issues. I'm really beginning to believe sugar is a bigger problem than I ever realised.7 -
Yes @dancing_daisy!! Sugar can be a huge problem. Not only metabolizing it but also the addictive factor. You eat it, can't possibly use it all, store it as fat that your body cannot access because of insulin resistance, and then crave more sugar once it is depleted. The cycle starts again. It is not an issue of will power or weakness like so many people attribute obesity to.
You are truly HUNGRY because sugar essentially starves your body of energy and nutrition but feeds your ever growing belly fat reserve.5
