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Face and Neck Skin Care

RowdysLady

I've noticed that I seem to have saggy baggy puffiness under my eyes since dropping this weight. More under the left than the right but both for sure. No dark circles, which is what I used to have. Also getting that waddle under my neck. Not wrinkles, yet, but the skin is loose. Of all the places I have loose skin (everywhere) I'd like the most to firm/tighten/improve my face and neck. I can hide everything else under clothes.

I've been using L'Oreal Age Perfect Night Cream all over and L'Oreal Age Perfect Eye Renewal around my eyes. I'm not convinced they are helping.

Any success out there? I'm willing to spend the money for this (I really don't spend money on me so this is worth it) if anyone knows of anything that's really helpful for these areas. I prefer to avoid surgical/procedural solutions.

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KetoLady86

I have the lorial as well...Im not sure which cream I have thoug...i used to put the jergins skin firming cream on my face and neck, but dont do any face regimin as I should. I notice under my neck some sagging skin, just a little. I hate it

Cyndi146

My eyes are looking better than they have in a really long time. I come from a family with deep set eyes and DARK circles underneath.... all the time. I posted this pic in the NSV thread a while back because I feel they look so much better. That said, if I could afford Nerium Day & Night cream ($100/mo) I would be all over it. Used it for one month and was already seeing better elasticity.

RowdysLady

@Cyndi146 There is a noticeable difference. Yay!! I had the darkness but that's pretty well gone. The puffiness you had I now have. I assume I was puffy before but my fat filled cheeks hid it better? Hm...$100 a month...that may be a little steeper than I was hoping for. It really works though, eh? Maybe it'd be worth it to get rid of the turkey waddle under my neck...

Sunny_Bunny_

I worked for Lancome for a few years, L'Oréal is a company of theirs. Generally, the drugstore versions of their products are thought to be (not official) the old formulas of Lancome products or current products slightly diluted. If you compare the names and ingredients and even packaging to some degree, you can see similarities.
Using their high end products for years, I can say that I noticed a difference in my skin, but I can't say it was enough to warrant that expense. Now that I don't work there and don't get free/reduced products, I honestly just use coconut oil for moisture.
I do still love one product of theirs though. I wish I knew what was in it exactly. It's called Genifique. It's a serum that actually does improve the overall color, texture, brightness and plumpness of the skin. When I worked there, I always put it on the back of one of my hands but not the other and the difference was pretty amazing. Even now, one of my hands appears slightly more firm/plump and better texture and color.
I have read about vitamin C serums and so many things they describe and what people say about it them and even pictures of what they look like reminds me of Genifique. So, I at least wonder if there is VitC involved.

But, give your body plenty of collagen and it'll do its best for skin and all tissues in general on its own as well.

KnitOrMiss

Remember, too, as a person healing from tons of healing toxicities and interference, that ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING you put ON your skin, will end up INSIDE your body. So if you refuse to eat soy because of estrogen, you darned sure don't want it on your skin. If you're anti-wheat, make sure there are no wheat/oatmeal related things in your products. And so on and so forth.

This is makeup, skin care, soap, perfume, all of it. I can't remember which person I follow, I think the ThyroidPharmacist chick, she has a whole list of what to avoid and such. I know the parabens, sulfates, and such are pretty well know for shampoo, but I freaked out reading the list of my chapstick ingredients. For real!! It was bad. I have two brands I will use now, and that's IT...

So, just food for thought, ladies.

Though I honestly am in search of a serum right now myself that is affordable, works, and is safe. My good friend bought me an Arbonne system for Christmas last year, and I liked some of it, meh on some, but I liked the overall system (wash, serum, lotion, and under eye gel)...so I'm looking for something more affordable. I can't do CO oil all the time. For whatever reason, it doesn't absorb well for me on it's own, not without an hour or so to absorb. I'm using some shea stuff at the moment, in addition to the Arbonne I still have left...

HawkPNP

I'm one of those people that watches what is in my skin products....same with makeup. For a while I was making all of our skin care products, soaps, etc....(nerd alert!).

That said, I really love using jojoba oil with a drop of frankincense and copaiba oil. It sounds silly but it was worked wonders in my wrinkles and around me eyes.

I have never explored Nerium -- but I have seen a lot of great results on Facebook when people are posting their pictures/their friends. I looks like it works well if that is a direction you are looking for.

bametels

About a year of a more or less stable weight (post-weight loss), I saw considerable improvement in my saggy neck without the use of any special products. I think it simply takes time for the skin to adjust to the new you. That said, unless you are very young or your loss is minimal, I don't think you can expect a complete reversal of sagging skin.

Catawampous

I like jojoba oil myself. My skin seems to take it in better. I can't really say it does anything like you are looking for RowdysLady but it does make me feel better when I look in the mirror.

ladipoet

KnitOrMiss wrote: »

I can't do CO oil all the time. For whatever reason, it doesn't absorb well for me on it's own, not without an hour or so to absorb.

Hey @KnitOrMiss ...here's a little trick I learned. When you are using a straight oil of some kind that doesn't soak in or absorbe well, add a few drops of aloe vera to it. I do think when I use argan oil on my hands and face. Here's the kind of aloe I use (please note: it has menthol in it so keep it AWAY from your eyes 'cause that *kitten* stings like *kitten*!!)

http://www.sunfood.com/msm-aloe-gel-4-oz.html

I also suggest trying this:

https://www.badgerbalm.com/p-475.aspx?searchEngineName=organic-rose-face-oil

I will be trying it shortly myself but I 've heard good things about this stuff. Fwiw, I found it at Thrive Market for a much better price though (36% less) than buying it directly from badger.

SuperCarLori

Gah I'm such a tomboy!! I wash my face and smear some coconut oil around....I too, have some looser skin my neck and some new wrinkles

but I'm not that concerned. Cause I'm that one who wears jeans and a T-shirt, doesn't ever EVER do ANYTHING to her hair and doesn't wear makeup. Maybe mascara on an occasion.

I'm sorry I didn't help.... As a tomboy, I really should either tiptoe past this type of post, or run the other way asap.

canadjineh

I've blind tested high end cosmetics for Elle Canada Magazine several years and filled out a journal log on products (which only show a code number so we aren't swayed by the brand) and how they react with my skin and results I've found. My favorites turned out to be Chanel, Guerlain, and a bit more affordable... Clarins. Right now I'm regularly using L'Oreal Silky Sheer BB SPF 50 Ultra Light Finish Beauty Balm with Vit E. It has a very faint shimmer tint and it feels awesome on the skin and my skin is staying soft & clear, but then I've always used sunscreen on my face so really at 52 all I have to deal with is those 'heavy concentration' lines between my brows. I only get little pouches under my eyes when I really grin.

KnitOrMiss

ladipoet wrote: »

KnitOrMiss wrote: »

I can't do CO oil all the time. For whatever reason, it doesn't absorb well for me on it's own, not without an hour or so to absorb.

Hey @KnitOrMiss ...here's a little trick I learned. When you are using a straight oil of some kind that doesn't soak in or absorbe well, add a few drops of aloe vera to it. I do think when I use argan oil on my hands and face. Here's the kind of aloe I use (please note: it has menthol in it so keep it AWAY from your eyes 'cause that *kitten* stings like *kitten*!!)

http://www.sunfood.com/msm-aloe-gel-4-oz.html

I also suggest trying this:

https://www.badgerbalm.com/p-475.aspx?searchEngineName=organic-rose-face-oil

I will be trying it shortly myself but I 've heard good things about this stuff. Fwiw, I found it at Thrive Market for a much better price though (36% less) than buying it directly from badger.

I was excited until I saw rose oil...My nasal allergies are so terrible I can't do any florals, even in pure essential oils...instant sinus headache!

RowdysLady

Thanks to everyone. @SuperCarLori - we are yet again alike. I don't do any of that other stuff either; no make up, my hair is almost always in a pony or chopped off short...but I kinda miss my "younger" looking skin. Having said that at 42 years old there is only so much I can do I suppose!

MyriiStorm

I make my own skin care products (cleanser, face & body moisturizers, lip balm, scrubs) because I'm extremely allergic to fragrances. Shea butter is one of my favorite ingredients for most of them, as I find it helps make my skin smoother and more firm. And coconut oil is great to add as a moisturizing ingredient.

ladipoet

KnitOrMiss wrote: »

I was excited until I saw rose oil...My nasal allergies are so terrible I can't do any florals, even in pure essential oils...instant sinus headache!

Well, that's a huge bummer @KnitOrMiss. My sympathies...I was not aware of your nasal allergies.

:'(

baconslave

I'm taking collagen. I've been at it for just over a month and am noticing small differences in the neck waddle and loose skin.

I have the eye puffy. Some of that is due to the garbage I have to put in my eyes at night due to Sjogren's.

So I have no answers for that.

RowdysLady

I'm making Rowdy take collagen (and cinnamon and tumeric and cucurmin) for his arthritis. I purchased pills at first but think I'm going to buy the powder and sneak it into his tea. I can drink it in my water and put it in food. Seems this may be a help for many things that "ail us".

Bubba1922

When I have money Kiehls super corrective cream, when I have not a mix of olive oil and honey massaged in before shower.

CeliaSea

I asked my dermatologist about this directly. She said sagging is best mitigated by nutrients that are ingested, not applied topically. She told me to keep drinking water, add a high-quality collagen powder and a silica supplement, and have a lot of patience.

RowdysLady

YAY! @CeliaSea I'm on the right track with the water and I ordered the collagen this morning. Silica...going to Amazon now...

bowlerae

I haven't been wearing makeup much lately. This weekend was the first time in over a month that I've worn makeup. I've also started using the Oil Cleansing Method which you can find a lot of information about online, mostly beauty or natural living blogs. I wash my face daily with 25% castor oil, 75% other oil, plus a few drops essential oils. At first I tried sweet almond oil as the other oil, that was ok. Now I'm trying jojoba oil which I like better. I am currently using lavender and tea tree EO and I like those but I'm looking forward to experimenting with different ones in the future. Castor oil is antibacterial and really helps with dissolving stubborn dirt and oil buildup but it is very drying which is why you need another more moisturizing oil. My skin is combination which I really sensitive dry spot near my nose so I do less castor oil than someone with oily skin would do. Also, if my mix gets a little too drying (too much castor) then I just touch up the dry spots with a blend of coconut oil and essential oils on those troublesome spots.

Anyways, it keeps my skin very clean and moisturized which has greatly improved the clarity of my skin and even out my complexion. Also, it has thickened my eyebrows and eye lashes a bit (I make a point to massage the lashes and eyebrows for several minutes by themselves).

RowdysLady

When Rowdy and I met I was wearing make up for work and of course because he and I were new. About 3 months in he says to me "I can't stand make up on women". I stopped wearing it and haven't looked back! So freeing! I am so prone to break outs that the idea of "oil" scares me, even coconut oil. I did buy collagen powder - OH! I put it in Rowdy's tea when I made it this morning and it's all cloudy. I am not sure he'll drink it - it is tasteless as I tried it in water already but the tea looks gross now. Anywho... I also got the silica caps that were recommended above. Going to give the internal stuff a try since the external stuff doesn't seem to be working. I took a pic on Friday and we'll see what happens in a month I suppose!

Sarahb29

Rowdys I have days where I go to work with zero makeup too, but I do bring it with me just in case someone schedules me into some sort of bigwig meeting or something! I have Rosacea so people are just going to deal with me looking like Pikachu half the time.

As far as creams go I don't use anything great or grand, I use Curel "ultra healing" because I like how soft my skin feels after I put it on, and use it every morning and night. Gold bond makes a nice cream too. Vasoline is another underrated product.

I find that it's not the product that you use, but the AMOUNT of times you use it that's important. If you only put on sunblock once a day and spend all day outdoors, you get hit with UV rays once it wears off. So you have to keep slathering it on throughout the day (or at least I do anyway). I also only get foundation with SPF in it, this one is my favorite so far:

http://www.ulta.com/outlast-stay-fabulous-3-in-1-foundation?productId=xlsImpprod4930113

Also - drink water, water water. You gotta keep your skin hydrated to keep it in top shape

Low carb in itself seems to have improved both my hair and my skin too.

coloradoartstudio

I used to be a Lancome user...but have simplified everything.

I love using coconut oil around my eyes. I've been using the Alba Botanica (with sea kelp) line for facial care. It does have a fragrance though.

I've never heard of ingesting collagen or silica - I'll have to check that out. At 50, my skin is starting to show its age - especially in the décolletage area. I'm a side sleeper and I wake up with wrinkles on my chest every morning that seem to even out within a few hours.

kpk54

coloradoartstudio wrote: »

I used to be a Lancome user...but have simplified everything.

I love using coconut oil around my eyes. I've been using the Alba Botanica (with sea kelp) line for facial care. It does have a fragrance though.

I've never heard of ingesting collagen or silica - I'll have to check that out. At 50, my skin is starting to show its age - especially in the décolletage area. I'm a side sleeper and I wake up with wrinkles on my chest every morning that seem to even out within a few hours.

LOL. I had to google that term just to be sure of the reference. I have always been one to be somewhat "modest" in my attire and have found as I age (62) I am a little more modest just because nothing is as cute, pretty, attractive @ 62 as it was at 25,35,45,55. I'm content at 62. Some are better, some are worse. I am, what I am. Nothing wrong with striving to be the best one can be though. Taking care of oneself is important.

RowdysLady

coloradoartstudio wrote: »

I used to be a Lancome user...but have simplified everything.

I love using coconut oil around my eyes. I've been using the Alba Botanica (with sea kelp) line for facial care. It does have a fragrance though.

I've never heard of ingesting collagen or silica - I'll have to check that out. At 50, my skin is starting to show its age - especially in the décolletage area. I'm a side sleeper and I wake up with wrinkles on my chest every morning that seem to even out within a few hours.

I've heard a lot of people here talking about collagen for lots of things. I decided a while back I needed to get Rowdy on it for his arthritis to see if it helps. I was giving him pills but when I ran out I bought the powder. So I'm drinking that in my BPC each morning now (just started this weekend). I am hoping that by putting the collagen in Rowdy's tea that he drinks every day he'll start to feel better and not even realize why...Except I made a new batch of tea today and the freaking collagen turned the tea from a lovely tea color to a washed out chocolate milk color. And of course the tea container is clear glass. He is pretty good about eating whatever I give him but I'm not sure how he's going to take to his tea being such a gross color... I wouldn't want to drink it and I know the collagen adds no flavor what so ever as I tried it in water already.

anglyn1

I keep forgetting to actually take my collagen. I too feel like losing my double chin left me with some loose neck skin. Some days I ignore it and others I kind of obsess over it to be honest. I've never found any sort of face cream to do much and honestly believe most are a scam. While my obsession over my neck is pretty vain I'm usually not that type. I'm kind of lazy so other than lip gloss I don't even wear make-up most days. Just the weekend or if I'm going to an event. At 38 I'm definitely seeing a few wrinkles and such but it's not as bad as it could be. My only real issues are the neck and also the crease between my eyebrows. I've had that for years though because I have really light eyes and I'm very sensitive to light so I squint a lot.

RowdysLady

@anglyn1 because I take so many supplements already for my RNY surgery years back it's easy to remember one more in my coffee. I am kinda the same way - some days I don't even think about it. I think when I'm feeling less secure in myself I notice things like the bags and the waddle. I have always had a fear of not being quite good enough and when that creeps in I see all the imperfections. I really noticed this stuff when I realized how far off the Keto track I'd become and thus feeling inferior again. Trying to feel better about myself for sure, in general.

It's kinda amazing how much one is willing to say about one's self on a mostly anonymous forum...yep....I feel inferior often at times. There, I said it. Goes back to always being a fat kid that never had friends, methinks... Even though as an adult I conquered most of it...

jassnip

@RowdysLady look up the Fasciablaster by Ashley Black.

anglyn1

@RowdysLady I think it's normal to feel inferior. At least I hope so! lol.