Anyone here follow a ketogenic diet?

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  • idocdlw
    idocdlw Posts: 208 Member
    [quote="gregpesot;38282414Just can't see myself not eating and drinking some things??? Pizza? Beer? Bagels?[/quote]

    Wine is the only thing I cannot give up. I drink a couple of glasses of chianti every night. If I still lived in a sticks & bricks house with a garden tub...I could trade out the wine for a nightly soak, but I can't do that in the RV. When I drive to visit family who live in sticks & bricks with a garden tub, they always joke that "I drove xx miles/hours just to take a bath".
  • MyriiStorm
    MyriiStorm Posts: 609 Member
    @vmchavira - as you can see, there are a lot of us who follow a keto WOE. Did you have any questions for the group?
  • josgall
    josgall Posts: 17 Member
    edited December 2016
    Well, now that we're all in one spot... ummm ... since there's nothing better to do, I guess I'll hijack this thread... anyone want to chop to pieces my attempt at dropping into ketosis this week and tell me why I'm testing trace for ketosis all week and offer any suggestions? :smiley: Been been doing some light lifting at the gym so I've been trying to keep my protein up a bit without killing the keto. I tried to keep my protein at 1g/lb of lean body mass (or less) but I'm thinking it's still too high? Last time I was in ketosis was before my thanksgiving cheat time last week :-1:

    sorry @vmchavira , but hopefully you can help tear me to pieces on my eating this week as well haha!

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  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    josgall wrote: »
    Well, now that we're all in one spot... ummm ... since there's nothing better to do, I guess I'll hijack this thread... anyone want to chop to pieces my attempt at dropping into ketosis this week and tell me why I'm testing trace for ketosis all week and offer any suggestions? :smiley: Been been doing some light lifting at the gym so I've been trying to keep my protein up a bit without killing the keto. I tried to keep my protein at 1g/lb of lean body mass (or less) but I'm thinking it's still too high? Last time I was in ketosis was before my thanksgiving cheat time last week :-1:

    sorry @vmchavira , but hopefully you can help tear me to pieces on my eating this week as well haha!

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    Potentially??? Adaptation. Wasting fewer ketones. Fewer being turned into acetoacetate and more bhb. ??? Unless you're diabetic there's no reason to suspect protein.
    Otherwise... could be simple hydration levels.
    I have found that I can manipulate the results I get on pee sticks by drinking lots of water or the easiest way I was able to manipulate them to see lower results without actually eating carbs was drinking lots (about 64 ounces in about 4-5 hours) of coffee which resulted in emptying my bladder more often. Simple answer Is the sample tested was diluted. Not enough time went by to drop a lot of acetoacetate into my urine before my bladder was ready to empty.
    Otherwise, could be been associated with timing of testing. You release cortisol with exercise. Glucose will be released from the liver with stress (exercise) for a bit so it could've shown a lower result if close to exercise.
  • kammy92
    kammy92 Posts: 408 Member
    Just started Thursday. ......hoping low carb will help me lose 25 lbs. Thanks for letting me be apart of this group!
  • kirkor
    kirkor Posts: 2,530 Member
    josgall wrote: »
    anyone want to chop to pieces my attempt at dropping into ketosis this week and tell me why I'm testing trace for ketosis all week and offer any suggestions?

    What are you using to test?
  • I'm on week six of Keto, loving it so far! Especially now since my energy came back for my workouts.
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    Karlottap wrote: »
    Eating meat and fat as your primary source of food will keep you below 20 grams a day. Limit veggies (carbs add up quickly there!). Plus, you won't feel as hungry and control of choices (less desire for carbs) will be easier!

    I was keto for about 20 months. Have recently added back some carbs (like oatmeal and beans) since I've been in maintenance for about 7 months. Is weird to be in the place where I don't have weight to lose! Wouldn't be here without keto and mfp!!

    You all can do it too! Hang in there and Keto On!!

    Congrats! <3

    What's the verdict... was the Carb Reunion pretty easy on your system?
  • josgall
    josgall Posts: 17 Member
    kirkor wrote: »
    josgall wrote: »
    anyone want to chop to pieces my attempt at dropping into ketosis this week and tell me why I'm testing trace for ketosis all week and offer any suggestions?

    What are you using to test?

    I was using the ketosis test pee strips they sell at the drug store , is there another way? I haven't been doing this long enough to know
  • fatchimom
    fatchimom Posts: 256 Member
    kammy92 wrote: »
    Just started Thursday. ......hoping low carb will help me lose 25 lbs. Thanks for letting me be apart of this group!

    Welcome! You will love this group!!! Feel free to add me as a friend.
  • ProCoffeenator
    ProCoffeenator Posts: 523 Member
    josgall wrote: »
    Well, now that we're all in one spot... ummm ... since there's nothing better to do, I guess I'll hijack this thread... anyone want to chop to pieces my attempt at dropping into ketosis this week and tell me why I'm testing trace for ketosis all week and offer any suggestions? :smiley: Been been doing some light lifting at the gym so I've been trying to keep my protein up a bit without killing the keto. I tried to keep my protein at 1g/lb of lean body mass (or less) but I'm thinking it's still too high? Last time I was in ketosis was before my thanksgiving cheat time last week :-1:

    sorry @vmchavira , but hopefully you can help tear me to pieces on my eating this week as well haha!

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    If you were fully in ketosis for a while prior to your cheat your body will have an easier time reverting back to ketosis.
    The pee strips are really only good for the first run of getting into the swing of things. They measure what is being spilled (unused) by your system. Once you become adapted there should be little to no spilled ketones which is why many people fear they've dropped out of ketosis when using those strips for extended amounts of time.

    The amount of protein you are consuming should be fine, especially if you are lifting regularly. On average about 30g per three meals daily is a great range to be in for your consumption. It's when you are sitting down and eating three large steaks that you will see issues with that!
    It's not just diabetics that have protein convert to sugar. All the macros convert to sugar in excess they just convert at different times. Obviously we all know that carbs convert quickly, next up to convert would be proteins but that happens about 2 hours post meal. Following that is fat! Believe it or not! The reason fat converting is a non issues is because it takes all day and can barely be measured which is why there is no actual studies to show this... it's that low and that hard to measure.

    @josgall the best way to judge your ketosis levels at this point would be with a blood meter or a breath analysis both are rather expensive but will give you more reliable results. The inexpensive route is to know your body and trust yourself. How do you feel? You may or may not suffer some side effects re-entering ketosis. So waiting for Keto flu to hit is not a good indicator!

    Good luck!
    Keto on!!
  • kirkor
    kirkor Posts: 2,530 Member
    josgall wrote: »
    kirkor wrote: »
    josgall wrote: »
    anyone want to chop to pieces my attempt at dropping into ketosis this week and tell me why I'm testing trace for ketosis all week and offer any suggestions?

    What are you using to test?

    I was using the ketosis test pee strips they sell at the drug store , is there another way? I haven't been doing this long enough to know

    Ya, those are not to be used for titrating your carbs. They can't be used as a meal-to-meal or day-to-day measure of ketosis. There is no useful data (for the non-diabetic) to be gleaned from them. They measure only the excess of one type of ketone body. Blood tests are the only accurate way to know if you are in ketosis.

    Full explanation here:
    http://www.reddit.com/r/keto/comments/2wsu0u/psa_when_and_how_to_use_ketostix_on_a_ketogenic/
    http://ketopia.com/why-you-need-to-stop-worrying-about-the-color-of-your-ketostix/
  • kimmorrow30
    kimmorrow30 Posts: 19 Member
    20g carbs and under for me!
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