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  • jenngerpeacox
    jenngerpeacox Posts: 205 Member
    I have decided not to even talk to my own mother about my weight loss journey/WOE anymore (it will be interesting when she comes to visit for a week next month). She has been very critical any time she happens to call when I'm eating (asks what I'm eating) and then gives me a hard time. Or she will call when I'm exercising and tells me I'm overdoing it. Or she says I'm losing too much weight (that was the latest discussion this morning after I sent some pics of me and the kids). I've tried to encourage her, not to join me but to just cut out some carbs and sugar. She is obese, diabetic(but not on meds yet), and she goes to a nutritionist every week who she doesn't even listen to (but wants to bring up my WOE). Sorry for the rant!! Besides her I have the occasional acquaintance who gives me the look when I have a pile of meat and cheese on my plate, but I also have some very supportive friends. My husband teases me but he can see the difference in me, energy, less pain and weight loss and he's supportive too.
  • LowCarbInScotland
    LowCarbInScotland Posts: 1,027 Member
    I have no frustrations about the "public perception" of the way I eat. I've never experienced any negative feedback from friends, family, medical professionals or restaurant staff. Though to be honest, I couldn't care less about what people think and I have zero interest in explaining myself to anyone. I don't spend time on social media outside of our private little room here and I'm sure people say stupid opinionated things, but I'm not interested in anyone's opinion of my health or the efforts I'm taking to improve my health, so any type of negative commentary out there on the www would have zero impact on me.
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    edited January 2017
    I have been eating carnivote for 23days now, and the only person in my real life who knows is my husband because I don't want to hear anyone else's opinion about it! So far I haven't had any issues at the few restaurants I've gone to, and even navigated a Wendy's with 4 patties ala cart, in a bowl with an add on of cheese and bacon. Though the lady who helped me was a bit confused, we navagated it. :)
    macchiatto wrote: »
    Not much. If they do I'll tell them about the positive effects I've experienced in addition to weight loss, and about Dr. Wahls and her protocol for MS, and/or mention that my primary care dr, cardiologist and MS specialist are all supportive, my blood work is great, etc. I don't really talk much about not really eating fruit or more starch vegetables because then they'd probably give me a harder time ...

    You have MS? Could I ask you about your symptoms and what relief you might have found? My sister has MS at 35 years old ... :frowning: sorry to thread jack!
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »
    The worst are the people that tell you they "tried it" (admit they didn't read about it), and say how sick it made them and then accuse you of advocating it when you're just discussing it with others that also eat that way, and say you're going to make people sick in the process. Which I guess is why they butted into a conversation others were having in the first place since it was of no interest to them.
    All while completely ignoring that you've already stated how much healthier it has made you...
    and continue to say that you basically aren't listening to THEM.... LOL
    yep. That's frustrating.

    I'm with you there.

    I find it saddest when biting my tongue around friends I suspect might enjoy an improvement in their quality of life but just aren't interested (particularly a pre-diabetic friend with Stage 4 liver cancer who goes through 5 bottles of Ensure a day at her family doctor's recommendation).
  • Misskim121211
    Misskim121211 Posts: 28 Member
    It's funny, I haven't told anyone about my WOE because I don't want to have to explain myself..lol. My daughter has celiac disease so it is really easy to avoid a lot of carbs. I also have a lot of tummy issues so if anyone does ask any questions I just say my dr wants me to eat this. This works for me so I don't care what anyone has to say..lol
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    @Sunny_Bunny_,

    It really IS odd - I think many of us are more careful with diet talk than religion, politics, and everything else combined.

    I had a similar experience with my dad, who had liver and stomach cancer. In addition to starting Ensure :s, he also took up smoking again, which may have done him less harm.
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    edited January 2017
    anglyn1 wrote: »
    I have another friend who is a nurse and goes on about low carb being bad for your kidneys. Then I have a relative who is a pediatric nurse who thinks ketosis and ketoacidosis are the same thing. She tried to tell me I was going to die on this diet. I asked her to explain from her medical perspective how if they are the same then I've lived over a year with a deadly condition? Also I'm not diabetic so I can't get ketoacidosis. Meanwhile she is overweight with a strong family history of diabetes and eats allllllll the carbs.

    Eegads :o some of the health care folks are the least open-minded of all!

    When I fantasize of carrying around a satchel of articles, "Keto does not cause *kitten* kidney disease" is in the top 10.

    On a brighter note, my 20s nurse stepdaughter asked me the other day, "WTF is with our food?" She gets a daily dose about the SAD from her contemporaries in the hospital where she works. B)
  • genmon00
    genmon00 Posts: 604 Member
    edited January 2017
    People can't argue with results so those who know me know I follow Low carb ( i try not to get into the HF part cuz it seems to confuse them lol) My diabetes is totally under control, my labs are great and I'm losing weight. Since I live in a place where people will literally try anything that they believe might possibly magically help them lose weight, they are more willing to believe me lol
  • macchiatto
    macchiatto Posts: 2,890 Member
    Kirstie155 wrote: »
    I have been eating carnivote for 23days now, and the only person in my real life who knows is my husband because I don't want to hear anyone else's opinion about it! So far I haven't had any issues at the few restaurants I've gone to, and even navigated a Wendy's with 4 patties ala cart, in a bowl with an add on of cheese and bacon. Though the lady who helped me was a bit confused, we navagated it. :)
    macchiatto wrote: »
    Not much. If they do I'll tell them about the positive effects I've experienced in addition to weight loss, and about Dr. Wahls and her protocol for MS, and/or mention that my primary care dr, cardiologist and MS specialist are all supportive, my blood work is great, etc. I don't really talk much about not really eating fruit or more starch vegetables because then they'd probably give me a harder time ...

    You have MS? Could I ask you about your symptoms and what relief you might have found? My sister has MS at 35 years old ... :frowning: sorry to thread jack!

    Sure! I had my first attack at 24, definite diagnosis at 30. Tried 4 different meds so far and am now happy with Gilenya, plus a few meds for symptoms. I'll send you a private message with more info.
  • ABeautifulDistraction
    ABeautifulDistraction Posts: 348 Member
    My only problem in this arena is my MIL. I've been on a couple medically supervised WOE for close to 2 years now, and anytime my doctor tweaks something she has a negative opinion to share (including telling my husband my food allergies are just the latest fad). When she found out he was eating keto with me she scolded him and said we would be nutrient deficient and ketoacidosis would make us sick.
    But, she never gets my diagnoses right and is about 70 pounds overweight herself, so I ignore her.
  • DietPrada
    DietPrada Posts: 1,171 Member
    Lol one of my friends is a vegan. The other eats light and easy. We always complain about being fat. The vegan is convinced she's going to outlive everyone, because she saw a show on SBS no doubt made by vegans which said so. They know low carb has helped me lose weight, but we don't talk about the other reasons it's the best way for me to eat. They are convinced when I'm done "dieting" I'll go back to eating "normal food" (carbs).
  • camtosh
    camtosh Posts: 898 Member
    edited February 2017
    I told a menopausal friend last week while we were out for dinner with a larger group about my weight loss on lchf, and how another friend had inspired me with her losses. She was all interested, but said, "Aren't you worried about heart disease?" So I told her my triglycerides had dropped (to 44! down from 124 in 2010) and that the diet helps prevent heart disease. Don't worry about your cholesterol, etc. She looked skeptical, but said she would read more about it. So I shared with her the 2 J. Moore Clarity ebooks. Dunno if she will read them, but worth a try! She needs to lose about 30lbs. Most women in our group look disbelieving when I mention eating high fat--the vegans especially.
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
    edited February 2017
    EbonyDahlia wrote: »
    Lol one of my friends is a vegan. The other eats light and easy. We always complain about being fat. The vegan is convinced she's going to outlive everyone, because she saw a show on SBS no doubt made by vegans which said so. They know low carb has helped me lose weight, but we don't talk about the other reasons it's the best way for me to eat. They are convinced when I'm done "dieting" I'll go back to eating "normal food" (carbs).

    LOL, the healthiest vegans eat lots of green veg, protein from legumes/beans, nuts and not so much from lots of grains and fruit. Interesting Alive magazine this Feb 2017 on vegan eating. Alot of the recipes fit fine into a low carb <100g net plan... which shows you that just because you are vegan doesn't mean you are high carb. Fatter, unhelthy vegans tend to eat more processed food and higher amounts of cheap grains like corn, rice, wheat.

    Not preaching or disagreeing BTW, just found it very enlightening myself.
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    canadjineh wrote: »
    EbonyDahlia wrote: »
    Lol one of my friends is a vegan. The other eats light and easy. We always complain about being fat. The vegan is convinced she's going to outlive everyone, because she saw a show on SBS no doubt made by vegans which said so. They know low carb has helped me lose weight, but we don't talk about the other reasons it's the best way for me to eat. They are convinced when I'm done "dieting" I'll go back to eating "normal food" (carbs).

    LOL, the healthiest vegans eat lots of green veg, protein from legumes/beans, nuts and not so much from lots of grains and fruit. Interesting Alive magazine this Feb 2017 on vegan eating. Alot of the recipes fit fine into a low carb <100g net plan... which shows you that just because you are vegan doesn't mean you are high carb. Fatter, unhelthy vegans tend to eat more processed food and higher amounts of cheap grains like corn, rice, wheat.

    Not preaching or disagreeing BTW, just found it very enlightening myself.

    That's exactly how I thought vegans and vegetarians ate but I haven't met one yet personally that actually eats many real vegetables. Like the majority of the SAD population, the people I know consider potatoes and corn veggies and those along with endless pasta and bread and occasional salad are the staples of their diet.
  • DietPrada
    DietPrada Posts: 1,171 Member
    Correct. I have nothing against any way of eating, it's all personal choice, but I don't know any vegans who don't eat heaps of pasta and potatoes and such.
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
    I know a couple vegetarians here in town (not vegans... they do use some dairy and honey) that are pretty fit athletes but sadly, as with any healthy diet they aren't the norm... even for vegan/vegetarians.
    Oops, just noticed it should read *healthy* in my previous post.
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    edited February 2017
    EbonyDahlia wrote: »
    Correct. I have nothing against any way of eating, it's all personal choice, but I don't know any vegans who don't eat heaps of pasta and potatoes and such.

    You may not recognize them without the carb accessories.... :*

    There are plenty in this group, probably some laughing this monent at the idea of being pasta-suckers!

    (And others weary of the public perception of their varied diets... :s .)
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »
    canadjineh wrote: »
    EbonyDahlia wrote: »
    Lol one of my friends is a vegan. The other eats light and easy. We always complain about being fat. The vegan is convinced she's going to outlive everyone, because she saw a show on SBS no doubt made by vegans which said so. They know low carb has helped me lose weight, but we don't talk about the other reasons it's the best way for me to eat. They are convinced when I'm done "dieting" I'll go back to eating "normal food" (carbs).

    LOL, the healthiest vegans eat lots of green veg, protein from legumes/beans, nuts and not so much from lots of grains and fruit. Interesting Alive magazine this Feb 2017 on vegan eating. Alot of the recipes fit fine into a low carb <100g net plan... which shows you that just because you are vegan doesn't mean you are high carb. Fatter, unhelthy vegans tend to eat more processed food and higher amounts of cheap grains like corn, rice, wheat.

    Not preaching or disagreeing BTW, just found it very enlightening myself.

    That's exactly how I thought vegans and vegetarians ate but I haven't met one yet personally that actually eats many real vegetables. Like the majority of the SAD population, the people I know consider potatoes and corn veggies and those along with endless pasta and bread and occasional salad are the staples of their diet.

    You're looking for (veggie) love in all the wrong places! (Or you're missing what's in plain view.) ;)
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    RalfLott wrote: »
    Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »
    canadjineh wrote: »
    EbonyDahlia wrote: »
    Lol one of my friends is a vegan. The other eats light and easy. We always complain about being fat. The vegan is convinced she's going to outlive everyone, because she saw a show on SBS no doubt made by vegans which said so. They know low carb has helped me lose weight, but we don't talk about the other reasons it's the best way for me to eat. They are convinced when I'm done "dieting" I'll go back to eating "normal food" (carbs).

    LOL, the healthiest vegans eat lots of green veg, protein from legumes/beans, nuts and not so much from lots of grains and fruit. Interesting Alive magazine this Feb 2017 on vegan eating. Alot of the recipes fit fine into a low carb <100g net plan... which shows you that just because you are vegan doesn't mean you are high carb. Fatter, unhelthy vegans tend to eat more processed food and higher amounts of cheap grains like corn, rice, wheat.

    Not preaching or disagreeing BTW, just found it very enlightening myself.

    That's exactly how I thought vegans and vegetarians ate but I haven't met one yet personally that actually eats many real vegetables. Like the majority of the SAD population, the people I know consider potatoes and corn veggies and those along with endless pasta and bread and occasional salad are the staples of their diet.

    You're looking for (veggie) love in all the wrong places! (Or you're missing what's in plain view.) ;)

    I know real veggie loving vegans are out there. Definitely. I just have only met people that want to eat the SAD diet without animal products. I think the same carb addictions that apply to SAD eaters apply to the vegans that I happen to specifically know.
    I actually know a young girl that was telling me how her diet consists of pretty much pasta and quinoa and some kind of vegan gummy bears she was thrilled to have found. She said she doesn't like vegetables. We were talking because we were at a bonfire together and the rest of us made sure to make several veggie items without butter so she could eat too. But she didn't like any of the veggies anyone made. She only eats potatoes, corn and salads occasionally.
    Then later the discussion turned to all her physical and mental ailments and anxiety. She even had to leave to the bonfire early because too many people were there. Also talked about having to work out for 1.5 hours every day to maintain her weight.
    I very carefully and not pushy at all asked how she gets nutrients and such if she's not eating any veggies. She ensured me her enriched pasta was sufficient.
    This is the only kind of "vegan", which I actually use loosely because I don't believe this girl is a good representative of it, I've ever met. I really only know like 3 vegans and a few vegetarians. Everyone I know is heavy on the grain and starch and very very light on actual veggies.
  • nomorepuke
    nomorepuke Posts: 320 Member
    Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »
    RalfLott wrote: »
    Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »
    canadjineh wrote: »
    EbonyDahlia wrote: »
    Lol one of my friends is a vegan. The other eats light and easy. We always complain about being fat. The vegan is convinced she's going to outlive everyone, because she saw a show on SBS no doubt made by vegans which said so. They know low carb has helped me lose weight, but we don't talk about the other reasons it's the best way for me to eat. They are convinced when I'm done "dieting" I'll go back to eating "normal food" (carbs).

    LOL, the healthiest vegans eat lots of green veg, protein from legumes/beans, nuts and not so much from lots of grains and fruit. Interesting Alive magazine this Feb 2017 on vegan eating. Alot of the recipes fit fine into a low carb <100g net plan... which shows you that just because you are vegan doesn't mean you are high carb. Fatter, unhelthy vegans tend to eat more processed food and higher amounts of cheap grains like corn, rice, wheat.

    Not preaching or disagreeing BTW, just found it very enlightening myself.

    That's exactly how I thought vegans and vegetarians ate but I haven't met one yet personally that actually eats many real vegetables. Like the majority of the SAD population, the people I know consider potatoes and corn veggies and those along with endless pasta and bread and occasional salad are the staples of their diet.

    You're looking for (veggie) love in all the wrong places! (Or you're missing what's in plain view.) ;)

    I know real veggie loving vegans are out there. Definitely. I just have only met people that want to eat the SAD diet without animal products. I think the same carb addictions that apply to SAD eaters apply to the vegans that I happen to specifically know.
    I actually know a young girl that was telling me how her diet consists of pretty much pasta and quinoa and some kind of vegan gummy bears she was thrilled to have found. She said she doesn't like vegetables. We were talking because we were at a bonfire together and the rest of us made sure to make several veggie items without butter so she could eat too. But she didn't like any of the veggies anyone made. She only eats potatoes, corn and salads occasionally.
    Then later the discussion turned to all her physical and mental ailments and anxiety. She even had to leave to the bonfire early because too many people were there. Also talked about having to work out for 1.5 hours every day to maintain her weight.
    I very carefully and not pushy at all asked how she gets nutrients and such if she's not eating any veggies. She ensured me her enriched pasta was sufficient.
    This is the only kind of "vegan", which I actually use loosely because I don't believe this girl is a good representative of it, I've ever met. I really only know like 3 vegans and a few vegetarians. Everyone I know is heavy on the grain and starch and very very light on actual veggies.

    Sounds like she has an eating disorder to me. I used be like that when I was younger. I picked to eat everyday a couple items that I liked the most, called myself a "vegetarian" . I would crave meat and all that jazz, and inflict myself to throw up after eating those. It's a nightmare. I wouldn't wish it for my worst enemy.
  • Cadori
    Cadori Posts: 4,810 Member
    Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »
    canadjineh wrote: »
    EbonyDahlia wrote: »
    Lol one of my friends is a vegan. The other eats light and easy. We always complain about being fat. The vegan is convinced she's going to outlive everyone, because she saw a show on SBS no doubt made by vegans which said so. They know low carb has helped me lose weight, but we don't talk about the other reasons it's the best way for me to eat. They are convinced when I'm done "dieting" I'll go back to eating "normal food" (carbs).

    LOL, the healthiest vegans eat lots of green veg, protein from legumes/beans, nuts and not so much from lots of grains and fruit. Interesting Alive magazine this Feb 2017 on vegan eating. Alot of the recipes fit fine into a low carb <100g net plan... which shows you that just because you are vegan doesn't mean you are high carb. Fatter, unhelthy vegans tend to eat more processed food and higher amounts of cheap grains like corn, rice, wheat.

    Not preaching or disagreeing BTW, just found it very enlightening myself.

    That's exactly how I thought vegans and vegetarians ate but I haven't met one yet personally that actually eats many real vegetables. Like the majority of the SAD population, the people I know consider potatoes and corn veggies and those along with endless pasta and bread and occasional salad are the staples of their diet.

    Absolutely! There are several in my office...fruity yogurt, crackers, potatoes and pasta.
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    Cadori wrote: »
    Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »
    canadjineh wrote: »
    EbonyDahlia wrote: »
    Lol one of my friends is a vegan. The other eats light and easy. We always complain about being fat. The vegan is convinced she's going to outlive everyone, because she saw a show on SBS no doubt made by vegans which said so. They know low carb has helped me lose weight, but we don't talk about the other reasons it's the best way for me to eat. They are convinced when I'm done "dieting" I'll go back to eating "normal food" (carbs).

    LOL, the healthiest vegans eat lots of green veg, protein from legumes/beans, nuts and not so much from lots of grains and fruit. Interesting Alive magazine this Feb 2017 on vegan eating. Alot of the recipes fit fine into a low carb <100g net plan... which shows you that just because you are vegan doesn't mean you are high carb. Fatter, unhelthy vegans tend to eat more processed food and higher amounts of cheap grains like corn, rice, wheat.

    Not preaching or disagreeing BTW, just found it very enlightening myself.

    That's exactly how I thought vegans and vegetarians ate but I haven't met one yet personally that actually eats many real vegetables. Like the majority of the SAD population, the people I know consider potatoes and corn veggies and those along with endless pasta and bread and occasional salad are the staples of their diet.

    Absolutely! There are several in my office...fruity yogurt, crackers, potatoes and pasta.

    Uh,.that's most of the American population.....
  • Cadori
    Cadori Posts: 4,810 Member
    RalfLott wrote: »
    Cadori wrote: »
    Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »
    canadjineh wrote: »
    EbonyDahlia wrote: »
    Lol one of my friends is a vegan. The other eats light and easy. We always complain about being fat. The vegan is convinced she's going to outlive everyone, because she saw a show on SBS no doubt made by vegans which said so. They know low carb has helped me lose weight, but we don't talk about the other reasons it's the best way for me to eat. They are convinced when I'm done "dieting" I'll go back to eating "normal food" (carbs).

    LOL, the healthiest vegans eat lots of green veg, protein from legumes/beans, nuts and not so much from lots of grains and fruit. Interesting Alive magazine this Feb 2017 on vegan eating. Alot of the recipes fit fine into a low carb <100g net plan... which shows you that just because you are vegan doesn't mean you are high carb. Fatter, unhelthy vegans tend to eat more processed food and higher amounts of cheap grains like corn, rice, wheat.

    Not preaching or disagreeing BTW, just found it very enlightening myself.

    That's exactly how I thought vegans and vegetarians ate but I haven't met one yet personally that actually eats many real vegetables. Like the majority of the SAD population, the people I know consider potatoes and corn veggies and those along with endless pasta and bread and occasional salad are the staples of their diet.

    Absolutely! There are several in my office...fruity yogurt, crackers, potatoes and pasta.

    Uh,.that's most of the American population.....

    Yes...but no MEAT...because that's the bad part :lol:
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    Cadori wrote: »
    RalfLott wrote: »
    Cadori wrote: »
    Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »
    canadjineh wrote: »
    EbonyDahlia wrote: »
    Lol one of my friends is a vegan. The other eats light and easy. We always complain about being fat. The vegan is convinced she's going to outlive everyone, because she saw a show on SBS no doubt made by vegans which said so. They know low carb has helped me lose weight, but we don't talk about the other reasons it's the best way for me to eat. They are convinced when I'm done "dieting" I'll go back to eating "normal food" (carbs).

    LOL, the healthiest vegans eat lots of green veg, protein from legumes/beans, nuts and not so much from lots of grains and fruit. Interesting Alive magazine this Feb 2017 on vegan eating. Alot of the recipes fit fine into a low carb <100g net plan... which shows you that just because you are vegan doesn't mean you are high carb. Fatter, unhelthy vegans tend to eat more processed food and higher amounts of cheap grains like corn, rice, wheat.

    Not preaching or disagreeing BTW, just found it very enlightening myself.

    That's exactly how I thought vegans and vegetarians ate but I haven't met one yet personally that actually eats many real vegetables. Like the majority of the SAD population, the people I know consider potatoes and corn veggies and those along with endless pasta and bread and occasional salad are the staples of their diet.

    Absolutely! There are several in my office...fruity yogurt, crackers, potatoes and pasta.

    Uh,.that's most of the American population.....

    Yes...but no MEAT...because that's the bad part :lol:

    Well, maybe if you have a chronic infection that needs treatment. ;)
  • Citrislazer
    Citrislazer Posts: 312 Member
    People's nasty comments use to bug me when I first started low carb eating. I typically don't talk to others about my eating habits, but I'll oblige when asked about it. If I encounter a low carb nay-sayer, I talk about it in terms of focusing on eating nutritionally dense food first, avoiding processed foods, no foods with added sugars, and making sure about half my meal is veggies with a good portion of lean meat. Generally, everyone's reaction is like, "Wow, that's really healthy!" I go one to talk about the physical and mental benefits I've experienced since eating in this manner, and then eventually add something like, "so, technically, I eat low carb." I've found this method to be the easiest for nay-sayers to understand and have converted several people over the last few years. My fiance's parents decided to try eating low carb for the first time last week. Low carb results speak for themselves. :-)
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