do you ever get frustrated with public perception with your diet?
Options
Replies
-
I live in Southern California which is kind of the land of alternative eating styles, so I don't get any flack. The only thing I hear is people saying "Oh, I've done low carb, it's miserable, you're hungry all the time" which is so not true, but fat is still demonized here so I just smile and let them admire my grit and determination.
7 -
People can't argue with results so those who know me know I follow Low carb ( i try not to get into the HF part cuz it seems to confuse them lol) My diabetes is totally under control, my labs are great and I'm losing weight. Since I live in a place where people will literally try anything that they believe might possibly magically help them lose weight, they are more willing to believe me lol1
-
Kirstie155 wrote: »I have been eating carnivote for 23days now, and the only person in my real life who knows is my husband because I don't want to hear anyone else's opinion about it! So far I haven't had any issues at the few restaurants I've gone to, and even navigated a Wendy's with 4 patties ala cart, in a bowl with an add on of cheese and bacon. Though the lady who helped me was a bit confused, we navagated it.
macchiatto wrote: »Not much. If they do I'll tell them about the positive effects I've experienced in addition to weight loss, and about Dr. Wahls and her protocol for MS, and/or mention that my primary care dr, cardiologist and MS specialist are all supportive, my blood work is great, etc. I don't really talk much about not really eating fruit or more starch vegetables because then they'd probably give me a harder time ...
You have MS? Could I ask you about your symptoms and what relief you might have found? My sister has MS at 35 years old ...
sorry to thread jack!
Sure! I had my first attack at 24, definite diagnosis at 30. Tried 4 different meds so far and am now happy with Gilenya, plus a few meds for symptoms. I'll send you a private message with more info.0 -
My only problem in this arena is my MIL. I've been on a couple medically supervised WOE for close to 2 years now, and anytime my doctor tweaks something she has a negative opinion to share (including telling my husband my food allergies are just the latest fad). When she found out he was eating keto with me she scolded him and said we would be nutrient deficient and ketoacidosis would make us sick.
But, she never gets my diagnoses right and is about 70 pounds overweight herself, so I ignore her.1 -
Lol one of my friends is a vegan. The other eats light and easy. We always complain about being fat. The vegan is convinced she's going to outlive everyone, because she saw a show on SBS no doubt made by vegans which said so. They know low carb has helped me lose weight, but we don't talk about the other reasons it's the best way for me to eat. They are convinced when I'm done "dieting" I'll go back to eating "normal food" (carbs).1
-
I told a menopausal friend last week while we were out for dinner with a larger group about my weight loss on lchf, and how another friend had inspired me with her losses. She was all interested, but said, "Aren't you worried about heart disease?" So I told her my triglycerides had dropped (to 44! down from 124 in 2010) and that the diet helps prevent heart disease. Don't worry about your cholesterol, etc. She looked skeptical, but said she would read more about it. So I shared with her the 2 J. Moore Clarity ebooks. Dunno if she will read them, but worth a try! She needs to lose about 30lbs. Most women in our group look disbelieving when I mention eating high fat--the vegans especially.1
-
EbonyDahlia wrote: »Lol one of my friends is a vegan. The other eats light and easy. We always complain about being fat. The vegan is convinced she's going to outlive everyone, because she saw a show on SBS no doubt made by vegans which said so. They know low carb has helped me lose weight, but we don't talk about the other reasons it's the best way for me to eat. They are convinced when I'm done "dieting" I'll go back to eating "normal food" (carbs).
LOL, the healthiest vegans eat lots of green veg, protein from legumes/beans, nuts and not so much from lots of grains and fruit. Interesting Alive magazine this Feb 2017 on vegan eating. Alot of the recipes fit fine into a low carb <100g net plan... which shows you that just because you are vegan doesn't mean you are high carb. Fatter, unhelthy vegans tend to eat more processed food and higher amounts of cheap grains like corn, rice, wheat.
Not preaching or disagreeing BTW, just found it very enlightening myself.3 -
canadjineh wrote: »EbonyDahlia wrote: »Lol one of my friends is a vegan. The other eats light and easy. We always complain about being fat. The vegan is convinced she's going to outlive everyone, because she saw a show on SBS no doubt made by vegans which said so. They know low carb has helped me lose weight, but we don't talk about the other reasons it's the best way for me to eat. They are convinced when I'm done "dieting" I'll go back to eating "normal food" (carbs).
LOL, the healthiest vegans eat lots of green veg, protein from legumes/beans, nuts and not so much from lots of grains and fruit. Interesting Alive magazine this Feb 2017 on vegan eating. Alot of the recipes fit fine into a low carb <100g net plan... which shows you that just because you are vegan doesn't mean you are high carb. Fatter, unhelthy vegans tend to eat more processed food and higher amounts of cheap grains like corn, rice, wheat.
Not preaching or disagreeing BTW, just found it very enlightening myself.
That's exactly how I thought vegans and vegetarians ate but I haven't met one yet personally that actually eats many real vegetables. Like the majority of the SAD population, the people I know consider potatoes and corn veggies and those along with endless pasta and bread and occasional salad are the staples of their diet.1 -
Correct. I have nothing against any way of eating, it's all personal choice, but I don't know any vegans who don't eat heaps of pasta and potatoes and such.2
-
I know a couple vegetarians here in town (not vegans... they do use some dairy and honey) that are pretty fit athletes but sadly, as with any healthy diet they aren't the norm... even for vegan/vegetarians.
Oops, just noticed it should read *healthy* in my previous post.1 -
EbonyDahlia wrote: »Correct. I have nothing against any way of eating, it's all personal choice, but I don't know any vegans who don't eat heaps of pasta and potatoes and such.
You may not recognize them without the carb accessories....
There are plenty in this group, probably some laughing this monent at the idea of being pasta-suckers!
(And others weary of the public perception of their varied diets...
.)
1 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »canadjineh wrote: »EbonyDahlia wrote: »Lol one of my friends is a vegan. The other eats light and easy. We always complain about being fat. The vegan is convinced she's going to outlive everyone, because she saw a show on SBS no doubt made by vegans which said so. They know low carb has helped me lose weight, but we don't talk about the other reasons it's the best way for me to eat. They are convinced when I'm done "dieting" I'll go back to eating "normal food" (carbs).
LOL, the healthiest vegans eat lots of green veg, protein from legumes/beans, nuts and not so much from lots of grains and fruit. Interesting Alive magazine this Feb 2017 on vegan eating. Alot of the recipes fit fine into a low carb <100g net plan... which shows you that just because you are vegan doesn't mean you are high carb. Fatter, unhelthy vegans tend to eat more processed food and higher amounts of cheap grains like corn, rice, wheat.
Not preaching or disagreeing BTW, just found it very enlightening myself.
That's exactly how I thought vegans and vegetarians ate but I haven't met one yet personally that actually eats many real vegetables. Like the majority of the SAD population, the people I know consider potatoes and corn veggies and those along with endless pasta and bread and occasional salad are the staples of their diet.
You're looking for (veggie) love in all the wrong places! (Or you're missing what's in plain view.)
0 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »canadjineh wrote: »EbonyDahlia wrote: »Lol one of my friends is a vegan. The other eats light and easy. We always complain about being fat. The vegan is convinced she's going to outlive everyone, because she saw a show on SBS no doubt made by vegans which said so. They know low carb has helped me lose weight, but we don't talk about the other reasons it's the best way for me to eat. They are convinced when I'm done "dieting" I'll go back to eating "normal food" (carbs).
LOL, the healthiest vegans eat lots of green veg, protein from legumes/beans, nuts and not so much from lots of grains and fruit. Interesting Alive magazine this Feb 2017 on vegan eating. Alot of the recipes fit fine into a low carb <100g net plan... which shows you that just because you are vegan doesn't mean you are high carb. Fatter, unhelthy vegans tend to eat more processed food and higher amounts of cheap grains like corn, rice, wheat.
Not preaching or disagreeing BTW, just found it very enlightening myself.
That's exactly how I thought vegans and vegetarians ate but I haven't met one yet personally that actually eats many real vegetables. Like the majority of the SAD population, the people I know consider potatoes and corn veggies and those along with endless pasta and bread and occasional salad are the staples of their diet.
You're looking for (veggie) love in all the wrong places! (Or you're missing what's in plain view.)
I know real veggie loving vegans are out there. Definitely. I just have only met people that want to eat the SAD diet without animal products. I think the same carb addictions that apply to SAD eaters apply to the vegans that I happen to specifically know.
I actually know a young girl that was telling me how her diet consists of pretty much pasta and quinoa and some kind of vegan gummy bears she was thrilled to have found. She said she doesn't like vegetables. We were talking because we were at a bonfire together and the rest of us made sure to make several veggie items without butter so she could eat too. But she didn't like any of the veggies anyone made. She only eats potatoes, corn and salads occasionally.
Then later the discussion turned to all her physical and mental ailments and anxiety. She even had to leave to the bonfire early because too many people were there. Also talked about having to work out for 1.5 hours every day to maintain her weight.
I very carefully and not pushy at all asked how she gets nutrients and such if she's not eating any veggies. She ensured me her enriched pasta was sufficient.
This is the only kind of "vegan", which I actually use loosely because I don't believe this girl is a good representative of it, I've ever met. I really only know like 3 vegans and a few vegetarians. Everyone I know is heavy on the grain and starch and very very light on actual veggies.1 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »canadjineh wrote: »EbonyDahlia wrote: »Lol one of my friends is a vegan. The other eats light and easy. We always complain about being fat. The vegan is convinced she's going to outlive everyone, because she saw a show on SBS no doubt made by vegans which said so. They know low carb has helped me lose weight, but we don't talk about the other reasons it's the best way for me to eat. They are convinced when I'm done "dieting" I'll go back to eating "normal food" (carbs).
LOL, the healthiest vegans eat lots of green veg, protein from legumes/beans, nuts and not so much from lots of grains and fruit. Interesting Alive magazine this Feb 2017 on vegan eating. Alot of the recipes fit fine into a low carb <100g net plan... which shows you that just because you are vegan doesn't mean you are high carb. Fatter, unhelthy vegans tend to eat more processed food and higher amounts of cheap grains like corn, rice, wheat.
Not preaching or disagreeing BTW, just found it very enlightening myself.
That's exactly how I thought vegans and vegetarians ate but I haven't met one yet personally that actually eats many real vegetables. Like the majority of the SAD population, the people I know consider potatoes and corn veggies and those along with endless pasta and bread and occasional salad are the staples of their diet.
You're looking for (veggie) love in all the wrong places! (Or you're missing what's in plain view.)
I know real veggie loving vegans are out there. Definitely. I just have only met people that want to eat the SAD diet without animal products. I think the same carb addictions that apply to SAD eaters apply to the vegans that I happen to specifically know.
I actually know a young girl that was telling me how her diet consists of pretty much pasta and quinoa and some kind of vegan gummy bears she was thrilled to have found. She said she doesn't like vegetables. We were talking because we were at a bonfire together and the rest of us made sure to make several veggie items without butter so she could eat too. But she didn't like any of the veggies anyone made. She only eats potatoes, corn and salads occasionally.
Then later the discussion turned to all her physical and mental ailments and anxiety. She even had to leave to the bonfire early because too many people were there. Also talked about having to work out for 1.5 hours every day to maintain her weight.
I very carefully and not pushy at all asked how she gets nutrients and such if she's not eating any veggies. She ensured me her enriched pasta was sufficient.
This is the only kind of "vegan", which I actually use loosely because I don't believe this girl is a good representative of it, I've ever met. I really only know like 3 vegans and a few vegetarians. Everyone I know is heavy on the grain and starch and very very light on actual veggies.
Sounds like she has an eating disorder to me. I used be like that when I was younger. I picked to eat everyday a couple items that I liked the most, called myself a "vegetarian" . I would crave meat and all that jazz, and inflict myself to throw up after eating those. It's a nightmare. I wouldn't wish it for my worst enemy.1 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »canadjineh wrote: »EbonyDahlia wrote: »Lol one of my friends is a vegan. The other eats light and easy. We always complain about being fat. The vegan is convinced she's going to outlive everyone, because she saw a show on SBS no doubt made by vegans which said so. They know low carb has helped me lose weight, but we don't talk about the other reasons it's the best way for me to eat. They are convinced when I'm done "dieting" I'll go back to eating "normal food" (carbs).
LOL, the healthiest vegans eat lots of green veg, protein from legumes/beans, nuts and not so much from lots of grains and fruit. Interesting Alive magazine this Feb 2017 on vegan eating. Alot of the recipes fit fine into a low carb <100g net plan... which shows you that just because you are vegan doesn't mean you are high carb. Fatter, unhelthy vegans tend to eat more processed food and higher amounts of cheap grains like corn, rice, wheat.
Not preaching or disagreeing BTW, just found it very enlightening myself.
That's exactly how I thought vegans and vegetarians ate but I haven't met one yet personally that actually eats many real vegetables. Like the majority of the SAD population, the people I know consider potatoes and corn veggies and those along with endless pasta and bread and occasional salad are the staples of their diet.
Absolutely! There are several in my office...fruity yogurt, crackers, potatoes and pasta.2 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »canadjineh wrote: »EbonyDahlia wrote: »Lol one of my friends is a vegan. The other eats light and easy. We always complain about being fat. The vegan is convinced she's going to outlive everyone, because she saw a show on SBS no doubt made by vegans which said so. They know low carb has helped me lose weight, but we don't talk about the other reasons it's the best way for me to eat. They are convinced when I'm done "dieting" I'll go back to eating "normal food" (carbs).
LOL, the healthiest vegans eat lots of green veg, protein from legumes/beans, nuts and not so much from lots of grains and fruit. Interesting Alive magazine this Feb 2017 on vegan eating. Alot of the recipes fit fine into a low carb <100g net plan... which shows you that just because you are vegan doesn't mean you are high carb. Fatter, unhelthy vegans tend to eat more processed food and higher amounts of cheap grains like corn, rice, wheat.
Not preaching or disagreeing BTW, just found it very enlightening myself.
That's exactly how I thought vegans and vegetarians ate but I haven't met one yet personally that actually eats many real vegetables. Like the majority of the SAD population, the people I know consider potatoes and corn veggies and those along with endless pasta and bread and occasional salad are the staples of their diet.
Absolutely! There are several in my office...fruity yogurt, crackers, potatoes and pasta.
Uh,.that's most of the American population.....0 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »canadjineh wrote: »EbonyDahlia wrote: »Lol one of my friends is a vegan. The other eats light and easy. We always complain about being fat. The vegan is convinced she's going to outlive everyone, because she saw a show on SBS no doubt made by vegans which said so. They know low carb has helped me lose weight, but we don't talk about the other reasons it's the best way for me to eat. They are convinced when I'm done "dieting" I'll go back to eating "normal food" (carbs).
LOL, the healthiest vegans eat lots of green veg, protein from legumes/beans, nuts and not so much from lots of grains and fruit. Interesting Alive magazine this Feb 2017 on vegan eating. Alot of the recipes fit fine into a low carb <100g net plan... which shows you that just because you are vegan doesn't mean you are high carb. Fatter, unhelthy vegans tend to eat more processed food and higher amounts of cheap grains like corn, rice, wheat.
Not preaching or disagreeing BTW, just found it very enlightening myself.
That's exactly how I thought vegans and vegetarians ate but I haven't met one yet personally that actually eats many real vegetables. Like the majority of the SAD population, the people I know consider potatoes and corn veggies and those along with endless pasta and bread and occasional salad are the staples of their diet.
Absolutely! There are several in my office...fruity yogurt, crackers, potatoes and pasta.
Uh,.that's most of the American population.....
Yes...but no MEAT...because that's the bad part
1 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »canadjineh wrote: »EbonyDahlia wrote: »Lol one of my friends is a vegan. The other eats light and easy. We always complain about being fat. The vegan is convinced she's going to outlive everyone, because she saw a show on SBS no doubt made by vegans which said so. They know low carb has helped me lose weight, but we don't talk about the other reasons it's the best way for me to eat. They are convinced when I'm done "dieting" I'll go back to eating "normal food" (carbs).
LOL, the healthiest vegans eat lots of green veg, protein from legumes/beans, nuts and not so much from lots of grains and fruit. Interesting Alive magazine this Feb 2017 on vegan eating. Alot of the recipes fit fine into a low carb <100g net plan... which shows you that just because you are vegan doesn't mean you are high carb. Fatter, unhelthy vegans tend to eat more processed food and higher amounts of cheap grains like corn, rice, wheat.
Not preaching or disagreeing BTW, just found it very enlightening myself.
That's exactly how I thought vegans and vegetarians ate but I haven't met one yet personally that actually eats many real vegetables. Like the majority of the SAD population, the people I know consider potatoes and corn veggies and those along with endless pasta and bread and occasional salad are the staples of their diet.
Absolutely! There are several in my office...fruity yogurt, crackers, potatoes and pasta.
Uh,.that's most of the American population.....
Yes...but no MEAT...because that's the bad part
Well, maybe if you have a chronic infection that needs treatment. 0 -
People's nasty comments use to bug me when I first started low carb eating. I typically don't talk to others about my eating habits, but I'll oblige when asked about it. If I encounter a low carb nay-sayer, I talk about it in terms of focusing on eating nutritionally dense food first, avoiding processed foods, no foods with added sugars, and making sure about half my meal is veggies with a good portion of lean meat. Generally, everyone's reaction is like, "Wow, that's really healthy!" I go one to talk about the physical and mental benefits I've experienced since eating in this manner, and then eventually add something like, "so, technically, I eat low carb." I've found this method to be the easiest for nay-sayers to understand and have converted several people over the last few years. My fiance's parents decided to try eating low carb for the first time last week. Low carb results speak for themselves. :-)4
-
I just have to say I'm T2D so I don't eat bread, rice or sugar. They can't argue that a diabetic needs those things. Like I've said, my T2D (which is very well controlled on this WOE) is my saving grace since it forces me to stay LC and well HF is my preference lol. I mean who hates eating bacon, butter, or cream? Although now I do watch my calories since I'm trying to lose weight faster, I'm confident that I will be eating this way till kingdom come lol6
