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  • JessicaLCHF
    JessicaLCHF Posts: 1,265 Member
    RalfLott wrote: »
    One of the tricks someone posted in response to my Q on how the heck to tell a craving (boo!) from genuine hunger (not so boo!...) was to employ the 10-minute rule - if it hasn't vanished in 10 minutes, it might be the latter.

    I'm dumb and can't tell the difference, even when fasting, but this trick has worked for at least one fellow carb addict. (@Cadori?)

    The best test I learned was are you craving a specific food or food in general. If you could eat a low carb snack it's hunger but if it "has" to be a specific (high carb usually) food it's time to tell your body to listen to your brain. ;)
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    edited May 2017
    JessicaLCHF wrote: »
    RalfLott wrote: »
    One of the tricks someone posted in response to my Q on how the heck to tell a craving (boo!) from genuine hunger (not so boo!...) was to employ the 10-minute rule - if it hasn't vanished in 10 minutes, it might be the latter.

    I'm dumb and can't tell the difference, even when fasting, but this trick has worked for at least one fellow carb addict. (@Cadori?)

    The best test I learned was are you craving a specific food or food in general. If you could eat a low carb snack it's hunger but if it "has" to be a specific (high carb usually) food it's time to tell your body to listen to your brain. ;)

    Hmm. For me, it never has to be a specific food. I'm kind of hungry in general but not ravenous, and it comes and goes. Same deal whether I'm fasting or not, so I usually call it all false hunger and, ahem, try to forget about it.
  • Dragonwolf
    Dragonwolf Posts: 5,600 Member
    AlexandraCarlyle wrote: »
    LowCarb4Me2016 wrote: »
    Yeah, they did seem to leave out a lot of the actual Norse lore, probably to make it fit the Marvel world. For instance, Lady Sif was Thor's wife in the stories and they could have done more with her in the movies too.

    THOR IS MARRIED - ?! Oh, I'm crushed!! :'(
    He also dies at Ragnarok.

    If it's any consolation, he's got two sons, Modi and Magni, who inherit their father's hammer, and are said to embody embody their father's features.
  • AlexandraCarlyle
    AlexandraCarlyle Posts: 1,603 Member

    Dragonwolf wrote: »
    AlexandraCarlyle wrote: »
    LowCarb4Me2016 wrote: »
    Yeah, they did seem to leave out a lot of the actual Norse lore, probably to make it fit the Marvel world. For instance, Lady Sif was Thor's wife in the stories and they could have done more with her in the movies too.

    THOR IS MARRIED - ?! Oh, I'm crushed!! :'(
    He also dies at Ragnarok.

    If it's any consolation, he's got two sons, Modi and Magni, who inherit their father's hammer, and are said to embody embody their father's features.

    Ok, queue behind me gals.....I'm first!!

  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    Lucille4444 wrote: »
    Ghrelin, the hormone responsible for the hunger feeling, is issued in waves. If one feels hungry, one simply has to wait, whether or not one eats the hunger feeling will disappear.

    <chomp>
  • retirehappy
    retirehappy Posts: 3,520 Member
    Yes, I am becoming familiar with ghrelin's little tricks. Fasting for extended days has taught me a lot about hunger, eating cues, hormones, etc. Himalayan salt melted on the tongue and then a glass of water does wonders for the ghrelin wave, kinda like a seawall against an ocean wave.
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    edited July 2017
    baconslave wrote: »
    I have a food-demon who lurks on my shoulder. His name is Loki. He is an insidious turd. Think Tom Hiddleston in Loki-garb (headpiece and all), 2 inches tall, and prancing about trying to give me orders. He used to NEVER shut up! But now I'm really good at ignoring him. Sometimes he gives up. But sometimes he's just biding his time, planning and strategizing, waiting for a moment of weakness to strike.
    He's such a jerk...I still have to watch out for that stink-face.

    <Rump>
    E'er vigilant, looking over my shoulder to see if I've acquired an insidious food demon-turd :trollface: of my own

    Thx for the warning!
  • Xerogs
    Xerogs Posts: 328 Member
    This is pretty generic but what has helped me the most is just saying "No" to others and to myself. Do I sometimes give in? Unfortunately it happens but I don't beat myself up and just get back on track the next meal or next day.

    When I started on my weight loss journey my wife made it difficult. I noticed she bought the bad food I really liked and always had sweets on hand. We spent a big portion of our vacation weekend tracking down vegan bakery items that she could bring home. I surprised myself by eating well the entire vacation since it was an easy out to say "its vacation live a little" Now when we got home I did have one bite of one of her items and it was sickeningly sweet which reminded me that my taste buds had reset. After that it was back to LCHF. I am not sure what it is about people around me that just want add temptation but it gets me a little angry and stubborn so I use that to my advantage and just politely say "No thanks".

    When that little voice inside craves junk food I just shake my head and do something else like sketch a study for a painting or take a walk and clear my head. Replacing the "craving" with something else I like (drawing, painting, exercise, etc.) helps reinforce the "No" if that makes sense. I would say finding something you like can help occupy your mind and focus on something other than that peanut butter cup. I tend to gravitate towards things I like that are beneficial to me instead of some other compulsive habit that may be worse than bad food.
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