Breakthrough!
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retirehappy wrote: »
You are a Wonder Woman!I figure it took a long time for IR to develop and build in my body so it will take it a long time to heal or reverse itself.
I check my fbs each morning and track that rather than my weight. In fact, after several discussions with my counselor, I donated my scale to a charity. Believe me, that was HARD to do, but it has really freed me. I track my macros and have watched my fbs come down to normal ranges in the a.m. I wasn't diabetic (officially) but unofficially I was. IR and keto kept that horrible dx off my medical chart.
Personally, I need the scales' feedback, I know it lies all the darned time, but it does keep me from straying too far from my path. I'd love to say I could toss mine, but that isn't going to happen anytime soon. One of the Fasting Talk podcasts mentions one of the clients at IDM tossed hers in the trash went out, stepped on it again, then took it and placed it in her driveway and ran over it.
Hah! There you go! Got four wheels? Easy fix. Love it!0 -
rickywillis00 wrote: »@Retrofit55 Really well done for sticking it out that long to achieve these results! Im stuck 9 days into a plateau and its a nightmare, large calorie deficit, macros exactly perfect every day, loads of water etc etc no reason not to be loosing but nothing scale just stuck! Suppose its just the way it is for some of us. . . Your story has given me some needed encouragement to carry on forward so thanks and well done again
So glad it was helpful! I doubt I could have kept with it so long if I had tried to maintain a large calorie deficit as well, so was quite generous on that score. The key for me was remembering that my body's priority was to heal, which was obviously trumping my superficial priority of quick weight loss. Eventually, of course, staying the course means your body and you BOTH get what you most want. And how! The pounds continued to come off last week, first the 5, then 3 more, then a couple of more later in the week -- making for a total of 10 pounds gone in seven days, plus an inch off my hips and an inch and a half off my waist! Keep on hanging in there! You can nail this!!
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UPDATE: after the scale bounced around for 2 weeks, I finally dropped a pound. I don't believe it, lol, so I'll wait to see if it stays off over the next week. It's a new low weight so I'm hopeful it's for real. This thread really did help me keep my sanity though!3
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Congratulations for sticking it out and thanks for posting. Almost two years ago, I lost 26 pounds in 13 weeks without a single plateau even with those last, usually stubborn, pounds. I let five pounds creep back on and have endured six weeks of meticulous metrics and zero movement on the scale. It's been both surprising and disheartening.
I am, to be sure, two years older now. But still .....
Oh well, onward and downwards, I hope.3 -
@mandycat223 Right?? Maddening! Hope you get some action soon. The posts in this thread helped me hang in there.1
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LizinLowell wrote: »UPDATE: after the scale bounced around for 2 weeks, I finally dropped a pound. I don't believe it, lol, so I'll wait to see if it stays off over the next week. It's a new low weight so I'm hopeful it's for real. This thread really did help me keep my sanity though!
Yay you!, LizinL! A new low weight! I know it's sweet to see! Happy for you and with you!1 -
Thank you @Retrofit55 !! I love this group that totally understands what we're all going through even if we have our very specific journeys and methods. I am making myself promise not to freak out if the scale bounces right back up again but we'll see how well I keep that LOL. How are you doing? Is your chronic pain still at super high levels all the time? Any relief at all yet?0
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@LizinLowell ....I used to be like you and totally freak out over scale weight numbers but over the course of the past nearly 3 years and watching my weight fluctuations, I've learned that my body weight fluctuates a few pounds for a variety of reasons every week (how much salt I had the day before, if I exercised the way before and how much exercise I did, how much water my body is holding on to in response to said exercise, TTOTM, other hormones in general, stress, etc.) so it no longer bothers me. Keep calm and keto on...you will get to that point too!1
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@ladipoet Thanks for the encouragement! I really appreciate it. I know it's will get easier as I learn my body's patterns. I've just got PTSD from years of failure. I had great success with low carb in 2003 then somehow lost the thread because I didn't understand the science. A solid year of exercise in 2014 made me strong but I shed not one pound. In 2015 doing classic CICO, even low carb CICO, did not make a dent. Now that I know about Keto, IR, and fasting I'm hopeful this is the key to my specific issues. But I'm forever jittery that my body will betray me as it has so many times before. Regardless of my mental state, I am Keto for life now as I know this is how I feel best. I just also want to lose 30 more pounds & not taper off weight loss before reaching my goal like so many other times before.0
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Just popping in to congratulate you.
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My H and I are absolutely determined that we will NEVER go back to the way we used to eat.
He is far more sweet-toothed than I but still kicked his diabetes to the kerb; he has had the occasional 'lapse/treat', but has never succumbed to the extent that he bitterly regretted it.
Frustratingly, his weight-loss has never fluctuated, although it has faltered, and his loss has been steady, gradual and evident.
Mine has occasionally gone up a half, quarter or at times, full pound or so; but I have to honestly put that down to water retention and the time of year.
We are having really good weather here at the moment. Sunny, and seasonally warm, with temperatures in the mid 20c range. Which is impressive, for UK!
So the warmth induces perspiration and I am drinking like a fish.
I can always tell my fluid intake is good. And here's a tip:
Look at your earlobes. If they're puffed up and soft, you're hydrated. If they're thin and flaccid - you need water.
If you pinch the skin on the back of your hand and it takes longer than 3 -5 seconds (depending on personal age), to go back to normal - you need water.
If your lips are thin, dry and peeling - you need water.
If your scalp doesn't move freely across your skull when you move it - you need water.
ETA: If it helps, I also have an app on my phone which reminds me when to drink, because I tend to get busy and forget....
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AlexandraCarlyle wrote: »My H and I are absolutely determined that we will NEVER go back to the way we used to eat.
He is far more sweet-toothed than I but still kicked his diabetes to the kerb; he has had the occasional 'lapse/treat', but has never succumbed to the extent that he bitterly regretted it.
Frustratingly, his weight-loss has never fluctuated, although it has faltered, and his loss has been steady, gradual and evident.
Mine has occasionally gone up a half, quarter or at times, full pound or so; but I have to honestly put that down to water retention and the time of year.
We are having really good weather here at the moment. Sunny, and seasonally warm, with temperatures in the mid 20c range. Which is impressive, for UK!
So the warmth induces perspiration and I am drinking like a fish.
I can always tell my fluid intake is good. And here's a tip:
Look at your earlobes. If they're puffed up and soft, you're hydrated. If they're thin and flaccid - you need water.
If you pinch the skin on the back of your hand and it takes longer than 3 -5 seconds (depending on personal age), to go back to normal - you need water.
If your lips are thin, dry and peeling - you need water.
If your scalp doesn't move freely across your skull when you move it - you need water.
ETA: If it helps, I also have an app on my phone which reminds me when to drink, because I tend to get busy and forget....
(Android, Hydro Coach.)
Thanks, AlexandraCarlyle, I've been struggling with moderate to severe dehydration since the onset of the statin catastrophe last year and, despite the recently improved hydration with keto, the skin pinch test just tested out at 15+ seconds. I clearly need to work on this more. And big congratulations on your husband's victory over diabetes! Fabulous!1 -
Retrofit55 wrote: »AlexandraCarlyle wrote: »My H and I are absolutely determined that we will NEVER go back to the way we used to eat.
He is far more sweet-toothed than I but still kicked his diabetes to the kerb; he has had the occasional 'lapse/treat', but has never succumbed to the extent that he bitterly regretted it.
Frustratingly, his weight-loss has never fluctuated, although it has faltered, and his loss has been steady, gradual and evident.
Mine has occasionally gone up a half, quarter or at times, full pound or so; but I have to honestly put that down to water retention and the time of year.
We are having really good weather here at the moment. Sunny, and seasonally warm, with temperatures in the mid 20c range. Which is impressive, for UK!
So the warmth induces perspiration and I am drinking like a fish.
I can always tell my fluid intake is good. And here's a tip:
Look at your earlobes. If they're puffed up and soft, you're hydrated. If they're thin and flaccid - you need water.
If you pinch the skin on the back of your hand and it takes longer than 3 -5 seconds (depending on personal age), to go back to normal - you need water.
If your lips are thin, dry and peeling - you need water.
If your scalp doesn't move freely across your skull when you move it - you need water.
ETA: If it helps, I also have an app on my phone which reminds me when to drink, because I tend to get busy and forget....
(Android, Hydro Coach.)
Thanks, AlexandraCarlyle, I've been struggling with moderate to severe dehydration since the onset of the statin catastrophe last year and, despite the recently improved hydration with keto, the skin pinch test just tested out at 15+ seconds. I clearly need to work on this more. And big congratulations on your husband's victory over diabetes! Fabulous!
I was wondering if anyone else was "skin testing" while reading.
I opted for the scalp test. 0 -
Thank you so much, @Retrofit55 , I will pass on your good wishes to him... The back-of-hand pinch test is also very good for elderly people. These poor souls are constantly dehydrated because I'm told by a Geriatrics specialist that as you age, the drink reflex doesn't function as it does when young...the elderly simply don't feel thirsty, which is basically down to the body's slowing-down process.... (I was going to say the reflex 'dries up' but that would have been an unintentional joke....)
It's a good gauge to use if you're (or better, if one is) looking after an elderly relative, or visiting them in hospital.
I well remember an elderly aunt of mine being hospitalised because she kept having dizzy spells, and felt light-headed before, during and even after admission. They wanted to give her anti-sea-sickness medication! I created stink and nagged my aunt's doctor stupid to get her a drip inserted, because I insisted she was dehydrated. He finally succumbed and her condition improved in under a half hour, to the extent that she was discharged the following morning.1 -
First, congrats to both retro and ladi!
Second - is there such a thing as super-hydrated??? I pinch the skin on the back of my hand and it pops back almost as soon as I let go of it!0 -
AlexandraCarlyle wrote: »Thank you so much, @Retrofit55 , I will pass on your good wishes to him... The back-of-hand pinch test is also very good for elderly people. These poor souls are constantly dehydrated because I'm told by a Geriatrics specialist that as you age, the drink reflex doesn't function as it does when young...the elderly simply don't feel thirsty, which is basically down to the body's slowing-down process.... (I was going to say the reflex 'dries up' but that would have been an unintentional joke....)
It's a good gauge to use if you're (or better, if one is) looking after an elderly relative, or visiting them in hospital.
I well remember an elderly aunt of mine being hospitalised because she kept having dizzy spells, and felt light-headed before, during and even after admission. They wanted to give her anti-sea-sickness medication! I created stink and nagged my aunt's doctor stupid to get her a drip inserted, because I insisted she was dehydrated. He finally succumbed and her condition improved in under a half hour, to the extent that she was discharged the following morning.
Well, Sweetie, that dizzy, dried-out geriatric prune you just described is me over the past sixteen months, complete with repeated ER IV hydration and electrolyte supplementation. (Did your aunt mention that IV potassium BURNS like the living blazes going in, and often continues to spread beyond the IV site throughout the whole arm? No fun at all. I'd much rather drink my potassium in -- my latest discovery! -- yummy keto bone broth, thank you.) And the declining drink reflex you mentioned that comes with aging certainly helps me better understand why it's been so difficult to discipline myself to keep up my fluid/water intake.
How fortunate for your aunt that you were there to "run interference" on her behalf in the hospital! Having been there, it's scary to think of what could have happened if the (yes, stupid) doc had succeeded in packing your sick aunt off with a pointless anti-nausea med without resolving her dehydration first! You gotta watch these doctors. Good for you!
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Another good test you may want to consider, given that the skin's elasticity varies and changes with age.
Not that any of us need to consider such matters (*ahem...!*)1 -
Retrofit55 wrote: »AlexandraCarlyle wrote: »My H and I are absolutely determined that we will NEVER go back to the way we used to eat.
He is far more sweet-toothed than I but still kicked his diabetes to the kerb; he has had the occasional 'lapse/treat', but has never succumbed to the extent that he bitterly regretted it.
Frustratingly, his weight-loss has never fluctuated, although it has faltered, and his loss has been steady, gradual and evident.
Mine has occasionally gone up a half, quarter or at times, full pound or so; but I have to honestly put that down to water retention and the time of year.
We are having really good weather here at the moment. Sunny, and seasonally warm, with temperatures in the mid 20c range. Which is impressive, for UK!
So the warmth induces perspiration and I am drinking like a fish.
I can always tell my fluid intake is good. And here's a tip:
Look at your earlobes. If they're puffed up and soft, you're hydrated. If they're thin and flaccid - you need water.
If you pinch the skin on the back of your hand and it takes longer than 3 -5 seconds (depending on personal age), to go back to normal - you need water.
If your lips are thin, dry and peeling - you need water.
If your scalp doesn't move freely across your skull when you move it - you need water.
ETA: If it helps, I also have an app on my phone which reminds me when to drink, because I tend to get busy and forget....
(Android, Hydro Coach.)
Thanks, AlexandraCarlyle, I've been struggling with moderate to severe dehydration since the onset of the statin catastrophe last year and, despite the recently improved hydration with keto, the skin pinch test just tested out at 15+ seconds. I clearly need to work on this more. And big congratulations on your husband's victory over diabetes! Fabulous!
I was wondering if anyone else was "skin testing" while reading. I opted for the scalp test.
Tried the scalp test too, with equally unsatisfying results. How'd yours turn out?0 -
Retrofit55 wrote: »Retrofit55 wrote: »AlexandraCarlyle wrote: »My H and I are absolutely determined that we will NEVER go back to the way we used to eat.
He is far more sweet-toothed than I but still kicked his diabetes to the kerb; he has had the occasional 'lapse/treat', but has never succumbed to the extent that he bitterly regretted it.
Frustratingly, his weight-loss has never fluctuated, although it has faltered, and his loss has been steady, gradual and evident.
Mine has occasionally gone up a half, quarter or at times, full pound or so; but I have to honestly put that down to water retention and the time of year.
We are having really good weather here at the moment. Sunny, and seasonally warm, with temperatures in the mid 20c range. Which is impressive, for UK!
So the warmth induces perspiration and I am drinking like a fish.
I can always tell my fluid intake is good. And here's a tip:
Look at your earlobes. If they're puffed up and soft, you're hydrated. If they're thin and flaccid - you need water.
If you pinch the skin on the back of your hand and it takes longer than 3 -5 seconds (depending on personal age), to go back to normal - you need water.
If your lips are thin, dry and peeling - you need water.
If your scalp doesn't move freely across your skull when you move it - you need water.
ETA: If it helps, I also have an app on my phone which reminds me when to drink, because I tend to get busy and forget....
(Android, Hydro Coach.)
Thanks, AlexandraCarlyle, I've been struggling with moderate to severe dehydration since the onset of the statin catastrophe last year and, despite the recently improved hydration with keto, the skin pinch test just tested out at 15+ seconds. I clearly need to work on this more. And big congratulations on your husband's victory over diabetes! Fabulous!
I was wondering if anyone else was "skin testing" while reading. I opted for the scalp test.
Tried the scalp test too, with equally unsatisfying results. How'd yours turn out?
Scalp skin seems pretty good. Loose. Just did the hand test and have a glowing report there too but geesh. My hands sure don't look like they did when I was 20. Or 30. Or 40. Or even 50.0 -
Retrofit55 wrote: »Retrofit55 wrote: »AlexandraCarlyle wrote: »My H and I are absolutely determined that we will NEVER go back to the way we used to eat.
He is far more sweet-toothed than I but still kicked his diabetes to the kerb; he has had the occasional 'lapse/treat', but has never succumbed to the extent that he bitterly regretted it.
Frustratingly, his weight-loss has never fluctuated, although it has faltered, and his loss has been steady, gradual and evident.
Mine has occasionally gone up a half, quarter or at times, full pound or so; but I have to honestly put that down to water retention and the time of year.
We are having really good weather here at the moment. Sunny, and seasonally warm, with temperatures in the mid 20c range. Which is impressive, for UK!
So the warmth induces perspiration and I am drinking like a fish.
I can always tell my fluid intake is good. And here's a tip:
Look at your earlobes. If they're puffed up and soft, you're hydrated. If they're thin and flaccid - you need water.
If you pinch the skin on the back of your hand and it takes longer than 3 -5 seconds (depending on personal age), to go back to normal - you need water.
If your lips are thin, dry and peeling - you need water.
If your scalp doesn't move freely across your skull when you move it - you need water.
ETA: If it helps, I also have an app on my phone which reminds me when to drink, because I tend to get busy and forget....
(Android, Hydro Coach.)
Thanks, AlexandraCarlyle, I've been struggling with moderate to severe dehydration since the onset of the statin catastrophe last year and, despite the recently improved hydration with keto, the skin pinch test just tested out at 15+ seconds. I clearly need to work on this more. And big congratulations on your husband's victory over diabetes! Fabulous!
I was wondering if anyone else was "skin testing" while reading. I opted for the scalp test.
Tried the scalp test too, with equally unsatisfying results. How'd yours turn out?
Scalp skin seems pretty good. Loose. Just did the hand test and have a glowing report there too but geesh. My hands sure don't look like they did when I was 20. Or 30. Or 40. Or even 50.
Ha, ha! Aging is a trip, hm? Reminds me of the time I got some long-overdue reading glasses, took one look at my hands and gasped in horror, "Oh! My cuticles! I had no idea they looked like THAT!"2 -
AlexandraCarlyle wrote: »Another good test you may want to consider, given that the skin's elasticity varies and changes with age.
Not that any of us need to consider such matters (*ahem...!*)
What a useful, handy (no pun intended) test. But, darn it, I flunked it too. I'm a mess.
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It's ok, have a drink. Flavour it with some floating apple and lemon pieces... drink all you can.
I downloaded the app I mentioned earlier, and the only fault I can find with it is that if your phone screen is off, and in standby mode (not flight mode; just screen off and 'dormant') the alarm doesn't sound, unless you flip the screen on and go to the app.
So I may re-think downloading a different app. Or maybe setting a timer to hour intervals..... That could be an easier option!0 -
AlexandraCarlyle wrote: »It's ok, have a drink. Flavour it with some floating apple and lemon pieces... drink all you can.
I downloaded the app I mentioned earlier, and the only fault I can find with it is that if your phone screen is off, and in standby mode (not flight mode; just screen off and 'dormant') the alarm doesn't sound, unless you flip the screen on and go to the app.
So I may re-think downloading a different app. Or maybe setting a timer to hour intervals..... That could be an easier option!
I've never tried apple slices in my water. It sounds so refreshing...looking forward to it!0 -
It is incredibly relieving to read this. I am in the middle of week 6 and no movement in the scale in two weeks. This gives me the hope and encouragement to carry on. I would be thrilled to have your experience!1
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That's so exciting!! I get so discouraged when I am putting in so much effort with trying to stay disciplined with food and exercise then I don't see any movement on the scale. So Frustrating!!0
